Toxic Masculinity

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Anonymous wrote:I assume the “marching band is a sport” people are just being facetious. Although I suppose it tracks with our current climate of “words mean whatever the speaker says they mean”…

No, I meant what I wrote. It is a VARSITY sport.

It is also extremely athletic and requires tremendous discipline.

I am a band parent; I know these things for a fact.

What schools consider it a varsity sport? That’s hilarious! If it is it would be either to 1) fulfill Title IX requirements or 2) to allow unathletic kids and their parents to essentially lie on the college applications and say they played a varsity sport

Wrong.

Marching Band earns a varsity letter in county schools. Everyone knows that.

Plus: it’s a sport everywhere, not just FCPS

https://www.campustimes.org/2019/09/22/marching-band-is-too-a-sport/

Please cite your sources. It is NOT a sport anywhere, and it’s not considered a sport everywhere. Schools handing out varsity letters for this the athletic equivalent of grade inflation.

Just give it up and admit that your little snowflake has no athletic ability whatsoever.

I have no dog in this fight, have never had any sort of even tangential association with marching bad culture, etc.

But I will say that for someone to be so virulently anti-Marching Bad is very, very odd. You seem insistent on denigrating the endeavour, for no apparent reason. You also seem extremely unpleasant and, conjecture but likely 100 percent correct, incredibly unhappy. Be better.

Expressing such vitriol toward marching band is absolutely a form of toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.

Same.

This is why the Dems are struggling this election year. There has been years of hatred towards men from the far left.

Democrats don't hate men. Why should men get all the benefits?

[Anonymous]

I think you solve toxic masculinity by having men take ownership of some of the better human traits and teaching boys to have these. You solve it apparently through hardship where men don't have time to think about making women conform to their every desire and have to think about real issues. I think bad men like Hitler turn men away from toxic masculinity eventually when they can see real examples of people taxing violence to an extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume the “marching band is a sport” people are just being facetious. Although I suppose it tracks with our current climate of “words mean whatever the speaker says they mean”…

No, I meant what I wrote. It is a VARSITY sport.

It is also extremely athletic and requires tremendous discipline.

I am a band parent; I know these things for a fact.

What schools consider it a varsity sport? That’s hilarious! If it is it would be either to 1) fulfill Title IX requirements or 2) to allow unathletic kids and their parents to essentially lie on the college applications and say they played a varsity sport

Wrong.

Marching Band earns a varsity letter in county schools. Everyone knows that.

Plus: it’s a sport everywhere, not just FCPS

https://www.campustimes.org/2019/09/22/marching-band-is-too-a-sport/

Please cite your sources. It is NOT a sport anywhere, and it’s not considered a sport everywhere. Schools handing out varsity letters for this the athletic equivalent of grade inflation.

Just give it up and admit that your little snowflake has no athletic ability whatsoever.

I have no dog in this fight, have never had any sort of even tangential association with marching bad culture, etc.

But I will say that for someone to be so virulently anti-Marching Bad is very, very odd. You seem insistent on denigrating the endeavour, for no apparent reason. You also seem extremely unpleasant and, conjecture but likely 100 percent correct, incredibly unhappy. Be better.

WTH? I am “not anti marching band”, you tool. I was in marching band in high school for four years.

But it’s not a sport. Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you solve toxic masculinity by having men take ownership of some of the better human traits and teaching boys to have these. You solve it apparently through hardship where men don't have time to think about making women conform to their every desire and have to think about real issues. I think bad men like Hitler turn men away from toxic masculinity eventually when they can see real examples of people taxing violence to an extreme.

My issue with this that it posits there’s some broad issue to be solved that’s inherent to men. Thats hogwash. There are bad people. Period. There isn’t some pre-disposal for men to somehow have negative human traits that have to be programmed out. Really? It takes looking at someone like Hitler to get men to realize “Oh I shouldn’t be bad?” It’s really not even worth engaging with such a rotten-to-the core, genuinely mentally sick point of view. Also I’ve seen just as much women try to shape men to their “every desire”. Again, that falls into the category of “there’s bad people, period.” These people are the exception and hardly the rule.

[Anonymous]

But there are issues that are more related to men than women and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you solve toxic masculinity by having men take ownership of some of the better human traits and teaching boys to have these. You solve it apparently through hardship where men don't have time to think about making women conform to their every desire and have to think about real issues. I think bad men like Hitler turn men away from toxic masculinity eventually when they can see real examples of people taxing violence to an extreme.

My issue with this that it posits there’s some broad issue to be solved that’s inherent to men. Thats hogwash. There are bad people. Period. There isn’t some pre-disposal for men to somehow have negative human traits that have to be programmed out. Really? It takes looking at someone like Hitler to get men to realize “Oh I shouldn’t be bad?” It’s really not even worth engaging with such a rotten-to-the core, genuinely mentally sick point of view. Also I’ve seen just as much women try to shape men to their “every desire”. Again, that falls into the category of “there’s bad people, period.” These people are the exception and hardly the rule.

Just saw some headlines with trump supporters normalizing some of his addled statements about him needing Hitler's generals.
Hitler is not scary anymore, he might be a role model soon enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume the “marching band is a sport” people are just being facetious. Although I suppose it tracks with our current climate of “words mean whatever the speaker says they mean”…

No, I meant what I wrote. It is a VARSITY sport.

It is also extremely athletic and requires tremendous discipline.

I am a band parent; I know these things for a fact.

What schools consider it a varsity sport? That’s hilarious! If it is it would be either to 1) fulfill Title IX requirements or 2) to allow unathletic kids and their parents to essentially lie on the college applications and say they played a varsity sport

Wrong.

Marching Band earns a varsity letter in county schools. Everyone knows that.

Plus: it’s a sport everywhere, not just FCPS

https://www.campustimes.org/2019/09/22/marching-band-is-too-a-sport/

Please cite your sources. It is NOT a sport anywhere, and it’s not considered a sport everywhere. Schools handing out varsity letters for this the athletic equivalent of grade inflation.

Just give it up and admit that your little snowflake has no athletic ability whatsoever.

I have no dog in this fight, have never had any sort of even tangential association with marching bad culture, etc.

But I will say that for someone to be so virulently anti-Marching Bad is very, very odd. You seem insistent on denigrating the endeavour, for no apparent reason. You also seem extremely unpleasant and, conjecture but likely 100 percent correct, incredibly unhappy. Be better.

WTH? I am “not anti marching band”, you tool. I was in marching band in high school for four years.

But it’s not a sport. Jesus Christ.

With all due respect, I do not believe Jesus Christ was a member of the marching band when he was in high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume the “marching band is a sport” people are just being facetious. Although I suppose it tracks with our current climate of “words mean whatever the speaker says they mean”…

No, I meant what I wrote. It is a VARSITY sport.

It is also extremely athletic and requires tremendous discipline.

I am a band parent; I know these things for a fact.

What schools consider it a varsity sport? That’s hilarious! If it is it would be either to 1) fulfill Title IX requirements or 2) to allow unathletic kids and their parents to essentially lie on the college applications and say they played a varsity sport

Wrong.

Marching Band earns a varsity letter in county schools. Everyone knows that.

Plus: it’s a sport everywhere, not just FCPS

https://www.campustimes.org/2019/09/22/marching-band-is-too-a-sport/

Please cite your sources. It is NOT a sport anywhere, and it’s not considered a sport everywhere. Schools handing out varsity letters for this the athletic equivalent of grade inflation.

Just give it up and admit that your little snowflake has no athletic ability whatsoever.

I have no dog in this fight, have never had any sort of even tangential association with marching bad culture, etc.

But I will say that for someone to be so virulently anti-Marching Bad is very, very odd. You seem insistent on denigrating the endeavour, for no apparent reason. You also seem extremely unpleasant and, conjecture but likely 100 percent correct, incredibly unhappy. Be better.

I agree with you.

And for someone to keep just attacking and maligning the varsity sport of marching band as somehow not a sport, suggests strongly to me they must be a man. A bitter man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.

Same.

This is why the Dems are struggling this election year. There has been years of hatred towards men from the far left.

Or, conversely, was VP Harris’ loss the result of the toxic masculinity problem plaguing our nation?

[Anonymous]

This entire thread and the term “toxic masculinity” and people who believe it’s just this rampant plague are why donald trump won. People are tired of hyperbole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.

Same.

This is why the Dems are struggling this election year. There has been years of hatred towards men from the far left.

Or, conversely, was VP Harris’ loss the result of the toxic masculinity problem plaguing our nation?

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. But even if there was, that is not the issue. Issue is that the Dem policies do not make sense to men. They do not make sense to rich men, poor men, old men, young men, Latino men, increasingly and black men. It's not that men even buy Trump or what he says. It is that the Dems are so off that they have no other place to go. A good Dem candidate who is not so far off can get a lot of that male vote back. And in addition to the men -- remember he won a lot of women as well.

[Anonymous]

This thread is hilarious. Men have slowly been emasculated yet they have toxic masculinity? lol

Men and women really aren't that different in the US.

Anyone who has lived in Latin America knows that men are men and women are women. Much better down there IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. Men have slowly been emasculated yet they have toxic masculinity? lol

Men and women really aren't that different in the US.

Anyone who has lived in Latin America knows that men are men and women are women. Much better down there IMHO.

+1

Certainly fewer confused / mentally ill teens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread and the term “toxic masculinity” and people who believe it’s just this rampant plague are why donald trump won. People are tired of hyperbole.

Honestly, I think when a party gets fixated on identity politics men naturally get left out. Opressed women - who’s to blame? Opressed lgbtq+ - who’s to blame? Opressed African Americans - who’s to blame? Toxic masculinity, mansplaining, manspreading, rather be in the woods with a bear - it just goes on endlessly.

Scroll through the list on the Democrats “Who we serve” page:

https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/

Notice anyone left out of the “inclusive” party?

As a never trumper I was pretty heart broken this week to see him get elected but I get why men wouldn’t vote for a party who takes away their voice even when their heart is in the right place.