I hate “guy trips”

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

They have perfect spouses

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

They have perfect spouses

Dh isn't perfect. But he also doesn't check out of the parenting role.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He's not here and me thinking he sucks doesn't help OP. And some outsourcing is easy. Laundry, meals, and getting someone to clean your house are easy. I'm not sure about dog walking. The nanny part is harder. But so is what she's doing now.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He's not here and me thinking he sucks doesn't help OP. And some outsourcing is easy. Laundry, meals, and getting someone to clean your house are easy. I'm not sure about dog walking. The nanny part is harder. But so is what she's doing now.

Not OP but we have tried 3 different laundry services and they have all sucked. If you are allergic to fragrances and your clothes come back either smelling like perfume or faintly burnt you have to rewash everything. If you have a great laundry service please share.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He's not here and me thinking he sucks doesn't help OP. And some outsourcing is easy. Laundry, meals, and getting someone to clean your house are easy. I'm not sure about dog walking. The nanny part is harder. But so is what she's doing now.

Not OP but we have tried 3 different laundry services and they have all sucked. If you are allergic to fragrances and your clothes come back either smelling like perfume or faintly burnt you have to rewash everything. If you have a great laundry service please share.

It was a few years ago, but they were great: https://latino-laundromat-llc.business.site/. But I'm not allergic -- I don't remember what it smelled like.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He works a lot more than OP and makes 80% of the HHI, so I don't think that OP's husband needs to be doing "half of the household stuff". OP should figure out how to outsource if she needs to.

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See it too many times. Older and guys come to Dewey Beach, drink and act like fools. Trying to pickup a twenty something girl and attempting to take them back to their rental house. You all know the two most popular bars in Dewey so don’t be surprised when someone tells you they saw your husband kissing all over a younger girl like a cheap suit.

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Anonymous wrote:See it too many times. Older and guys come to Dewey Beach, drink and act like fools. Trying to pickup a twenty something girl and attempting to take them back to their rental house. You all know the two most popular bars in Dewey so don’t be surprised when someone tells you they saw your husband kissing all over a younger girl like a cheap suit.

Lay off the Chardonnay. Not everyone is like your DH.

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Anonymous wrote:See it too many times. Older and guys come to Dewey Beach, drink and act like fools. Trying to pickup a twenty something girl and attempting to take them back to their rental house. You all know the two most popular bars in Dewey so don’t be surprised when someone tells you they saw your husband kissing all over a younger girl like a cheap suit.

Weird. Not one of the guys of the 8 or 9 that I go on trips with would even countenance such behavior. We also wouldn’t go to Dewey because we are adults. But if that sort of thing even approached happening, the guy would face permanently being excluded.

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

+1

DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He's not here and me thinking he sucks doesn't help OP. And some outsourcing is easy. Laundry, meals, and getting someone to clean your house are easy. I'm not sure about dog walking. The nanny part is harder. But so is what she's doing now.

Not OP but we have tried 3 different laundry services and they have all sucked. If you are allergic to fragrances and your clothes come back either smelling like perfume or faintly burnt you have to rewash everything. If you have a great laundry service please share.

OP should find a nanny/house manager. When our kids went to school our nanny wanted to stay on with us full-time but the kids weren't home most of the day so during those hours she handled groceries, meal prep, all laundry except my husband's and my clothes (but she did our bed and towels), she walked the dogs and would even take them to the vet, she even got my car inspection done once. She was basically our third spouse (except, you know, the bedroom part). She would help with changing out too-small clothes, take stuff to Goodwill, handle Amazon returns, you name it, she probably did it. That's a way to solve many of OP's problems, including laundry. Then your clothes get washed in your house with your products and then it's also all put away (which is the worst part for me).

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Anonymous wrote:I love these posts. They make me feel so much better about my marriage and my life.

My wife actively encourages me to take trips and doesn’t care if I come back tired or hungover. She takes trips and sometimes arrives home in the same condition. I’ll go hunting, golf, boating, or skiing and she’ll go to some resort or city somewhere with her friends. We do the same sorts of trips together and with friends.

It sounds like you guys are just miserable and that’s the problem. Not the trips.

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DW sort of pokes fun of me for being banged up after a Vegas weekend or whatever, but it’s all in good humor and she is mostly nurturing. Even if there’s some “tsk tsk” element to it. She like when I go have fun.

I do the same for her — though she doesn’t really drink, so it’s just a matter of managing the kids/house… which, guess what ladies, ain’t rocket science.

Reading the OP made me want to jump out a window. I can almost hear her screaching from my couch.

Op here - obviously I know it’s not rocket science to manage our kids/house. I will add though while you and the dads who have “big jobs” get to focus all your energy on work all day I got to work AND make breakfast, lunch and dinner for 5 people, walk the dog 3 miles, do laundry, schedule dentist appointments, schedule pre and post operative appointments for one kid, take one kid to tutoring, drop off and pick up 3 kids.

So yea my second job, being a default parent, isn’t the same number of hours and isn’t paid the same as my husbands I would argue that I am also contributing to my household.

I also have said multiple times I don’t care if he goes on guy trips. I just get annoyed when he gets home and is exhausted and cannot also contribute to our home life. We don’t have the luxury to just sit home and recuperate from a long weekend. Our kids don’t care that we are tired. Our jobs don’t care that we are tired. Our dog doesn’t care we are tired. We have to suck it up and do the grind every day.

No one says you aren't contributing. Your way of arguing makes it hard to side with you in this.

First, you do that think that so many people do on this forum, and add in all sorts of one-off tasks to make it sound like you are more busy than you are. Dentist and doctor appointments? How many times a year do you do that? Making breakfast? Why not just put out some cereal and milk? Plus, the number of people you're making meals for doesn't really multiply the amount of time unless you are making bespoke meals (in which case, that's dumb). Your dog isn't going to die if he misses his 3 mile walk a few days a year. The effect of this kind of post is that it makes you sound unreasonable.

Does your husband get bitter and resentful toward you when he's working way more hours at a more stressful job for the other 50 weeks a year? My guess is that you live a much more comfortable lifestyle because your husband works like crazy. He even took calls on his trip! And you can't just cover for him for a couple of days after he gets back?

I don't know, OP. You can see all the negative reactions to your post. Does it cause you to rethink your position at all? It sounds like you are dug in on your resentfulness, and you sound self-centered and little weak/lazy.

Most women with three young children either have partners who help out more, are not working full-time, or have significant paid or family help. It is incredibly reasonable to be overwhelmed by this.

So if most other women in this situation can solve their problems why can't OP solve hers?

I think OP should outsource like crazy and if her husband is resistant, she should do it anyway. But that's a completely separate question from whether it's lazy to be overwhelmed by this.

You mean OP’s husband should outsource the half of the household stuff he’s not doing right? He can be the one to do the super easy outsourcing that everyone on here seems to think solves all your problems.

He's not here and me thinking he sucks doesn't help OP. And some outsourcing is easy. Laundry, meals, and getting someone to clean your house are easy. I'm not sure about dog walking. The nanny part is harder. But so is what she's doing now.

Not OP but we have tried 3 different laundry services and they have all sucked. If you are allergic to fragrances and your clothes come back either smelling like perfume or faintly burnt you have to rewash everything. If you have a great laundry service please share.

OP should find a nanny/house manager. When our kids went to school our nanny wanted to stay on with us full-time but the kids weren't home most of the day so during those hours she handled groceries, meal prep, all laundry except my husband's and my clothes (but she did our bed and towels), she walked the dogs and would even take them to the vet, she even got my car inspection done once. She was basically our third spouse (except, you know, the bedroom part). She would help with changing out too-small clothes, take stuff to Goodwill, handle Amazon returns, you name it, she probably did it. That's a way to solve many of OP's problems, including laundry. Then your clothes get washed in your house with your products and then it's also all put away (which is the worst part for me).

How much did you pay for this?

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Anonymous wrote:If your DH is making so much money OP, I would hire a sitter to help out while he is gone and when he first gets back. And I would be totally unapologetic about hiring as much help as needed so I’m not burnt out while he is gone.

This. Door dash dinners for the first few days after his anticipated return, send laundry out, hire a sitter for a few afternoons.

And hire a dog walker permanently. That’s such an easy thing to take off your plate. No reason you should be doing 100 percent of the default parenting and pet care when the both of you are making good money.

I think this is a good point in general beyond just girls/guys trips. I’ve found that anytime DH and I get into a bean counting or resentful place over division of labor it’s because we’re trying to allocate more than 2 people can realistically get done without burn out.

Obviously this is a harder situation when there isn’t much disposable income. But when you have a high earner working long hours, then you have to factor in some outsourcing as an expense that allows for the high earner to work those hours.

I totally send out laundry, order take out, plan a sitter, etc. when we reach a threshold of feeling unable to keep up. Way cheaper than divorce and better for our mental health than sniping at each other over who is helping with what.

That said heavy drinking is a huge turn off for me. My DH is really fit and into healthy eating. We both are light drinkers. An occasional hangover wouldn’t necessarily concern me, but I’m curious is OP’s husband has a history of over imbibing or having unhealthy habits that are annoying.

Wondering about this also. People with big jobs who are super stressed can sometimes lean a little too hard into drugs/alcohol. If being hungover for multiple days (or really at all... this guy has three kids) is a thing, I understand completely the resentment.

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Anonymous wrote:See it too many times. Older and guys come to Dewey Beach, drink and act like fools. Trying to pickup a twenty something girl and attempting to take them back to their rental house. You all know the two most popular bars in Dewey so don’t be surprised when someone tells you they saw your husband kissing all over a younger girl like a cheap suit.

Lay off the Chardonnay. Not everyone is like your DH.

You’re one of them…

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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.

DH here and I would be pissed if you woke me up 7:30 on a weekday. I set my alarm for 8:15.