White flight from MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

Tragic and disturbing yes but not related to MCPS.

She was 18 and likely an MCPS student. How is it not related?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

It did make the news.

https://moco360.media/2023/10/18/ms-13-members-used-machete-to-kill-olney-teen-left-body-in-woods-police-allege/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/four-charged-in-killing-of-15-year-old-buried-in-shallow-grave-in-olney/3446794/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/10/17/arrest-rosa-sanchez-merino-olney-maryland/

https://wjla.com/news/local/olney-maryland-18-year-old-buried-in-shallow-grave-2-women-man-teen-arrested-for-death-of-rosa-sanchez-merino-montgomery-county-police-brookeville-road-homicide-murder-crime-investigation

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ms-13-gang-members-charged-in-death-of-teen-found-buried-in-olney

I just pasted news stories on the murder from 5 different news outlets. Stop saying it wasn't in the news.

I think what you really mean is that is there wasn't visceral and lasting community outrage about the incident in the same way that there was with the Magruder shooting. That is true and accurate. But it was covered in the news.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

Tragic and disturbing yes but not related to MCPS.

She was 18 and likely an MCPS student. How is it not related?

dp.. bad things happen to kids outside of school all over the country. People don't generally associate that bad event that happened outside the school with the school, especially if the perp is not part of the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP here - please explain the main issues here. We are in Westland/ BCC zone and friends are in Pyle/Whitman zone. As far as I know these are good schools. My kid just started 6th grade. As far as I know Churchill zone is excellent too.

These are both excellent school districts. You have nothing to worry about.

Not what I’ve heard from parent of recent Whitman grad. They were thrilled to be out of there.
Plus BCC has its own issues I’m sure. BCC kids attacked some other school in downtown Bethesda. Might have been Whitman actually. It was recent, look it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

It did make the news.

Can you please post a link to this story?

How old were the teens who killed the girl with a machete? Were the teens students in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

It did make the news.

Can you please post a link to this story?

How old were the teens who killed the girl with a machete? Were the teens students in MCPS?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Sheinbein

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

It did make the news.

Can you please post a link to this story?

How old were the teens who killed the girl with a machete? Were the teens students in MCPS?

Someone has already posted many links. Or you can Google this information for yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school son is hearing that the bathrooms in the feeder high school all smell like weed. There is good reason for anyone to take flight if they can

All MCPS MS and HS bathrooms are full of kids vaping and getting high. Anyone who tells you otherwise either only has ES kids, is in denial, or lives under a rock

Yes. I have kids at three different schools and they all say this is true. This flows more from the prevalence of vapes (easy to hide) and pot legalization than anything McPS does. I guess at private schools they have more staff to monitor the bathrooms and can kick kids out. My kids Say the girls bathrroom are worse because McPS doesn’t have enough female security officers to check the bathrooms. The teachers aren’t supposed to go in the kids bathrooms but some do anyway just to clear off the drug users.

[Anonymous]

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The Chamber of Commerce, a far-right extension of the GOP, is to blame. Their unquenchable greed for profits without conscience is the root of the problem that drives and perpetuates illegal immigration.

Not in MoCo. You must never go to the MCCC, Rockville, or Bethesda/Chevy Chase Chamber of Commerce events. You'd be hard-pressed to find any far-right people -- it's the usual MoCo political crowd, all Dems.

[Anonymous]

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The Chamber of Commerce, a far-right extension of the GOP, is to blame. Their unquenchable greed for profits without conscience is the root of the problem that drives and perpetuates illegal immigration.

Not in MoCo. You must never go to the MCCC, Rockville, or Bethesda/Chevy Chase Chamber of Commerce events. You'd be hard-pressed to find any far-right people -- it's the usual MoCo political crowd, all Dems.

They're all Democrats, now, because many people who used to be Republicans are now Democrats, because the Republican Party is no longer interested in contributing to a functional government.

Regardless, the Montgomery County Chamber of Commerce does not have much of a voice at the federal level, which is where immigration policy happens. The national Chamber of Commerce does. And they've been aligned with the national Republicans for many, many decades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

It did make the news.

Can you please post a link to this story?

How old were the teens who killed the girl with a machete? Were the teens students in MCPS?

Three were adults, two of whom didn't live in Montgomery County (one was listed as living in New Hampshire). One was 16, but the police didn't list where he lived in the press release.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

Tragic and disturbing yes but not related to MCPS.

She was 18 and likely an MCPS student. How is it not related?

dp.. bad things happen to kids outside of school all over the country. People don't generally associate that bad event that happened outside the school with the school, especially if the perp is not part of the school.

One of the accused is 16 years old - 16-year-old Edwin Alexander Rivas-Salvador. He must have been enrolled in an MCPS high school. Which high school did he attend?

[Anonymous]

Aaron Needle and Samuel Sheinbein. Kennedy High School

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

Tragic and disturbing yes but not related to MCPS.

She was 18 and likely an MCPS student. How is it not related?

dp.. bad things happen to kids outside of school all over the country. People don't generally associate that bad event that happened outside the school with the school, especially if the perp is not part of the school.

One of the accused is 16 years old - 16-year-old Edwin Alexander Rivas-Salvador. He must have been enrolled in an MCPS high school. Which high school did he attend?

One of the people arrested is from Frederick, one is from New Hampshire, the one from Gaithersburg was arrested in Nevada. It's possible the 16 year old lives here and went to an MCPS high school, but to say he "must" have been enrolled isn't true. He could live somewhere else, like most of his codefendants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every person I know from Mexico and South America are amazing, highly educated, wonderful people. They are cultured, family people, and tremendously value education. So there can't be a problem just because of an increase in "hispanic" people.

Is this sharp rise in the MCPS hispanic population actually due to illegal immigration of poor and/or violent people from central america? If so this is definitely a broader society problem and blame can be placed on on federal government for it's open border polices.

If you read between the lines of the BOE meeting, it seems we’re getting an influx of the latter and not the former.

ICYMI: an 18 year old Latina was murdered by 3 other latinos (teens) this may and the killers were recently arrested. They cut off her head with a machete and dumped the body in a wooded area near a park in Olney.

It barely made the news.

^^^This is in our local schools. It’s a gang problem with rampant violence. It’s why many of them allegedly left Central America.

This story was crazy. I only read about it on the OBEX list serve because we live in the area. Not much (if any?) media coverage at all!

I guess this Latina girl’s life certainly didn’t matter to people here in the DMV.

A machete killing of an 18 yo girl. Let that sink in. Tragic and scary. Why did it not make the news?

Tragic and disturbing yes but not related to MCPS.

She was 18 and likely an MCPS student. How is it not related?

dp.. bad things happen to kids outside of school all over the country. People don't generally associate that bad event that happened outside the school with the school, especially if the perp is not part of the school.

As an 18 year old, she was either a current or former MCPS student. You don't think it would be traumatic to learn that a classmate was macheted to death in town?

When our school, Kennedy, had a student death, which also happened off-campus by the way, there was an immense amount of school support and messaging around the death. This IS an MCPS issue.

If she was 23, I could see your point, but an 18-year-old either was a present or very recently a former MCPS student.