Why does the GOP deserve my vote?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not voting for anyone who thinks open border, fentanyl flood and sex slaves are a good idea. Who would do that?

Who exactly, thinks this? I can't think of one person. Truly.

The people who drank bleach.

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The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

The GOP is in disarray and is not functional. The Democratic Party isn't quite at the disarray level and is barely functional. Leadership in both parties is abysmal. Both need to undergo complete reform or be dissolved. It is obvious that the GOP leadership is worse on every level but both parties allowing someone as unfit as Trump and as old as Biden to become president is completely unacceptable and there must be accountability.

I am not sure why you claim the Dems are in disarray and barely functional. They have been running the White House and the Senate like normal. The House ran very smoothly under Nancy Pelosi. There was never a government shut down when the Dems ran the House. It is a big tent party, so sure, there are moderates like Manchin and progressives like AOC. They all believe in the American Experiment and the principals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I am hardpressed to see where the party was brought to its knees by a small, vocal faction.

No where in the PP's comment was there a claim that Dems were in disarray. Learn to read/listen before speaking/typing and people will respect what you have to offer.

Really?

The Democratic Party isn't quite at the disarray level and is barely functional.

Isn't quite at the disarray level is still disarray. And "barely functional" is a direct quote. Reading IS fundamental.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

The GOP is in disarray and is not functional. The Democratic Party isn't quite at the disarray level and is barely functional. Leadership in both parties is abysmal. Both need to undergo complete reform or be dissolved. It is obvious that the GOP leadership is worse on every level but both parties allowing someone as unfit as Trump and as old as Biden to become president is completely unacceptable and there must be accountability.

I am not sure why you claim the Dems are in disarray and barely functional. They have been running the White House and the Senate like normal. The House ran very smoothly under Nancy Pelosi. There was never a government shut down when the Dems ran the House. It is a big tent party, so sure, there are moderates like Manchin and progressives like AOC. They all believe in the American Experiment and the principals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I am hardpressed to see where the party was brought to its knees by a small, vocal faction.

No where in the PP's comment was there a claim that Dems were in disarray. Learn to read/listen before speaking/typing and people will respect what you have to offer.

Really?

The Democratic Party isn't quite at the disarray level and is barely functional.

Isn't quite at the disarray level is still disarray. And "barely functional" is a direct quote. Reading IS fundamental.

Brilliant! So if my nephew plays triple A baseball for a Washington Nationals affiliate, which isn't quite at the level of the Major Leagues, I can still tell everyone he plays for the Nationals since not quite at the Major League level is the same as the Major League level. Gotcha, yes this makes sense. Haha, this is the type of thoughtlessness that gets people like Donald fricking Trump elected.

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The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OMFG! If I have a party it’s the Dems. Stop gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

OP.

Your imagination is doing a lot of work for you here. I haven’t stomped or rattled anything. I clearly laid out my issues and invited the people who say that both sides are equally bad and Republicans to make the case for why I should vote for the GOP.

There have been no “I’m voting Dem” pps you claim to have seen. I asked Moderated and Independents who think both sides are the same and Republicans to sell me on why I should vote for the GOP. There has not been a single persuasive argument.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

I’m not voting for Trump or any Republican and I think the PPs assessment of OPs behavior was exactly correct. And you don’t seem to be able to read neutrally as well.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

Agreed. Completely odd.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

If you want open borders, you must vote Democrat, not Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:this should answer the question

The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

If you want open borders, you must vote Democrat, not Republican.

OP doesn't care about the border or the economy per her OP. She cares solely about abortion rights, voting rights and combating climate change.

R views on those vary but here's a sample: abortion is a matter for the states, voter ID is integral to fair elections, and nuclear energy should be promoted to avoid over loading the electric grid and the environmental destruction that alternative energy sources entail.

OP won't go for any of that.

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The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

If you want open borders, you must vote Democrat, not Republican.

OP doesn't care about the border or the economy per her OP. She cares solely about abortion rights, voting rights and combating climate change.

R views on those vary but here's a sample: abortion is a matter for the states, voter ID is integral to fair elections, and nuclear energy should be promoted to avoid over loading the electric grid and the environmental destruction that alternative energy sources entail.

OP won't go for any of that.

Any mentally healthy person would have stopped posting here by now - but I don't think OP is looking for you to describe the R position on abortion in its most palatable terms. I think she's looking for how a R politician could convince her, who disagrees with them on THESE stances, to vote for them anyway. So it probably wouldn't be by insulting Democrats.

It probably wouldn't be by insisting that if you don't vote R, you're a dummy who LOVES open borders. But it could be something about - I don't know - your vision of an economy that favors the middle class (how? i don't know - you tell me!), specifics on how how to effectively address crime, something something education. As far as I can tell, Rs' answers to all these things are ANGRY WORDS plus a whole lot of nothing (at best), plus MOOOR GUNS.

But show us how that isnt the case! Show us what you can offer to a voter like OP - look, I HATE this, but it's what Youngkin did in VA to get himself the election. That plus a super bad opponent, and a weird crazy time in American life. But it shows it's not impossible to reel in a voter like OP, even with a candidate who is going to trash most of the stuff she says she cares most about.

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The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

If you want open borders, you must vote Democrat, not Republican.

OP doesn't care about the border or the economy per her OP. She cares solely about abortion rights, voting rights and combating climate change.

R views on those vary but here's a sample: abortion is a matter for the states, voter ID is integral to fair elections, and nuclear energy should be promoted to avoid over loading the electric grid and the environmental destruction that alternative energy sources entail.

OP won't go for any of that.

Any mentally healthy person would have stopped posting here by now - but I don't think OP is looking for you to describe the R position on abortion in its most palatable terms. I think she's looking for how a R politician could convince her, who disagrees with them on THESE stances, to vote for them anyway. So it probably wouldn't be by insulting Democrats.

It probably wouldn't be by insisting that if you don't vote R, you're a dummy who LOVES open borders. But it could be something about - I don't know - your vision of an economy that favors the middle class (how? i don't know - you tell me!), specifics on how how to effectively address crime, something something education. As far as I can tell, Rs' answers to all these things are ANGRY WORDS plus a whole lot of nothing (at best), plus MOOOR GUNS.

But show us how that isnt the case! Show us what you can offer to a voter like OP - look, I HATE this, but it's what Youngkin did in VA to get himself the election. That plus a super bad opponent, and a weird crazy time in American life. But it shows it's not impossible to reel in a voter like OP, even with a candidate who is going to trash most of the stuff she says she cares most about.

Op by her own admission does not care about any issue except the three she named. She cares nothing about the bolded ones above that you mention.

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The GOP simply doesn't deserve the vote from anyone who actually believes in the United States, who supports our military, or supports the US as a shining city on the hill.

OP.

Yes, it seems evident to me that one party is functional, but it shouldn’t be that way. GOP voters should have helped their party moderate decades ago. I asked for people to sell why I should give a vote to anyone in the GOP but no one has been able to give even a simple explanation.

It really is amazing, the responses - furious you'd even ask for a reason to consider one of their candidates.

OP. And somehow unable to read my OP. The amount of “both sides”-ing has been atrocious.

Give it arrest. Biden himself could tell you his party could improve itself in such and such manner, and you’d label him MAGA while demanding why you should vote for the GOP. There is no reason for you to vote GOP. You are exhausting.

or... try broadening your tent and giving people who aren't already on your side a reason to vote for you?

it's "a rest" not "arrest," unless you're trump - then it's definitely "give it arrest"

Posters: Hate Trump not voting GOP, but not happy with Dems with they’d run someone younger.

OP: MAGA! TRUMPER! tell me why I should vote for your Trump and GOP. <stomps feet and shakes rattle> Why aren’t you telling me why I should vote GOP!!!! Why won’t you answer my question! Don’t tell me anything about abortion or immigration or whatever. Those don’t count. Those are not valid reasons! You are idiots!!!! Tell me why to vote for your party.

Posters: I’m voting Dem!

OP: OMG!!! Why won’t you tell me why I should vote for your GOP!?! Answer me!!!!

((Crickets))

I am the PP - obv obsessed - and I continue to find it baffling that this is your take on OP's question. Do you not think your party is doing good things? And not just good things for the people already voting R, but for others, too? Why are you seeing OP's question as an attack instead of an opportunity?

I don't really get this idea that you should get so weirdly angry and defensive, and lash out, when asked for reasons why your party is really good, and people should consider voting for them instead of Democrats.

This is your chance to make the case. Maybe OP isn't really going to vote for an R - I'm certainly not, haha effin never - but lots of elections come down to independent voters and persuadable voters. Pretend OP didn't raise your hackles. What is the case to them, for why Rs should be trusted to lead your city, your state, your country? And assume for this exercise that the voter doesn't hate drag queens, probably wants their kid to learn some history, isn't furious with Disney for taking a mealy-mouthed stance in favor of gay employees, etc. In other words, not the culture war stuff that's really just red meat to the people already in your camp - but the other stuff, that you truly believe shows why Rs are the party who deserve to lead?

OP.

Thank you for this. Yes, I think it’s bizarre that Moderates and Independents keep saying that both sides are the same. Republicans obviously fervently love their party and say the Democratic Party is bad. I’ve laid out my policy priorities and not a one of the above has been able to articulate why I should vote for a Republican, and they’re very upset I asked.

What a weird take. But it’s clear you were trolling so no matter.

OP. I’m not trolling. It’s an honest question and one that a few of you are taking very personally. If you thought I was trolling, report me or don’t participate. It’s clear that none of you can sell the GOP.

If you want open borders, you must vote Democrat, not Republican.

OP doesn't care about the border or the economy per her OP. She cares solely about abortion rights, voting rights and combating climate change.

R views on those vary but here's a sample: abortion is a matter for the states, voter ID is integral to fair elections, and nuclear energy should be promoted to avoid over loading the electric grid and the environmental destruction that alternative energy sources entail.

OP won't go for any of that.

Any mentally healthy person would have stopped posting here by now - but I don't think OP is looking for you to describe the R position on abortion in its most palatable terms. I think she's looking for how a R politician could convince her, who disagrees with them on THESE stances, to vote for them anyway. So it probably wouldn't be by insulting Democrats.

It probably wouldn't be by insisting that if you don't vote R, you're a dummy who LOVES open borders. But it could be something about - I don't know - your vision of an economy that favors the middle class (how? i don't know - you tell me!), specifics on how how to effectively address crime, something something education. As far as I can tell, Rs' answers to all these things are ANGRY WORDS plus a whole lot of nothing (at best), plus MOOOR GUNS.

But show us how that isnt the case! Show us what you can offer to a voter like OP - look, I HATE this, but it's what Youngkin did in VA to get himself the election. That plus a super bad opponent, and a weird crazy time in American life. But it shows it's not impossible to reel in a voter like OP, even with a candidate who is going to trash most of the stuff she says she cares most about.

Op by her own admission does not care about any issue except the three she named. She cares nothing about the bolded ones above that you mention.

That is not at all what she said, I don't think. She said those are the issues she cares most about - and, given that, can anyone convince her to vote R?

So you're not going to convince her based on abortion rights. But how can you convince her that you offer an attractive enough package outside of that, that she should consider an R anyway. We're not going to find common ground on abortion, and probably not on voting or the environment - though at one point, not that long ago, there were Rs who were trying to get environmentalism into the GOP. I know that because my spouse worked with a bunch of them on these issues. They had inroads there - part of it was mitigation, some was through insurance, through stopping subsidizing environmentally harmful practices, etc. I don't know if that is still happening, but the point is that it can.

I am not going to make your case for you, Rs - but you clearly need better messengers than a bunch of hot takers on DCUM calling troll the second someone shows some interest, even skeptical interest, in what you have to say.