Notre Dame reaffirms University’s commitment to legacy admissions after Supreme Court ruling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes but Asians and whites attend college at a rate greater than their current percentage of population. Hispanics and other URMs do not. It will likely stay that way for some time.

but if ND wants to have the majority of its students be Catholics, then they'll have to admit more Hispanic students.

Discriminate based on religion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes but Asians and whites attend college at a rate greater than their current percentage of population. Hispanics and other URMs do not. It will likely stay that way for some time.

but if ND wants to have the majority of its students be Catholics, then they'll have to admit more Hispanic students.

Discriminate based on religion?

Most of their legacy admits are Catholic. Are they discriminating based on religion?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy probablyy the most efficient way to build the singular, similar mindset of the next generation that ND seeks?

Efficiency doesn’t equal moral or ethical. Which is fine. It’s a choice.

There is nothing immoral or unethical about legacy admissions, despite the desperate efforts to portray them as such.

There is for an institution that purports to follow Christ's teachings.

How so? When you have to choose a small group from a large pool of qualified applicants, what in your opinion is the morally superior way to select a class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes but Asians and whites attend college at a rate greater than their current percentage of population. Hispanics and other URMs do not. It will likely stay that way for some time.

but if ND wants to have the majority of its students be Catholics, then they'll have to admit more Hispanic students.

Why is that true? How many qualified white Catholic applicants do you think they get a year? I bet they get enough to fill the class a few times over.

But, white Catholics are declining in this country. They makeup maybe like 10% of the population, and they tend to be older.



The median age of a White Catholic is 54, while the median age of a Hispanic Catholic is 42.

In like 30 years, the majority of Catholics in this country will be Hispanics. So, yea, if ND wants to remain a mostly Catholic institution, they'll have to admit more Hispanics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy probablyy the most efficient way to build the singular, similar mindset of the next generation that ND seeks?

Efficiency doesn’t equal moral or ethical. Which is fine. It’s a choice.

There is nothing immoral or unethical about legacy admissions, despite the desperate efforts to portray them as such.

There is for an institution that purports to follow Christ's teachings.

How so? When you have to choose a small group from a large pool of qualified applicants, what in your opinion is the morally superior way to select a class?

Legacy mostly helps the wealthy. Christ doesn't teach to help the wealthy. If ND really wanted to follow Christ's teachings they would serve "the least of us", and lower their tuition rather than relying on legacy donations, which again, mostly helps the wealthy. I mean, Jesus Himself was not Catholic.

Instead, they have stated that keeping tradition is more important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ But private universities should be free to do as they please. Notre Dame is little cultish. But so what? ”

That’s fine. ND wants to be a great research university. So let ND forego all federal dollars for research. I don’t want my taxes going to encourage a school that seems to proudly admit legacy admissions. Even more particularly when you know they are very much slanted towards one religious group.

Nd really isn’t a research university

Yes They have some graduate programs but your median big 10 state school will out produce ND at research over a wider variety of fields


Not anymore:

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-selected-to-join-association-of-american-universities/

AAU members are research universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy probablyy the most efficient way to build the singular, similar mindset of the next generation that ND seeks?

Efficiency doesn’t equal moral or ethical. Which is fine. It’s a choice.

There is nothing immoral or unethical about legacy admissions, despite the desperate efforts to portray them as such.

There is for an institution that purports to follow Christ's teachings.

How so? When you have to choose a small group from a large pool of qualified applicants, what in your opinion is the morally superior way to select a class?

Legacy mostly helps the wealthy. Christ doesn't teach to help the wealthy. If ND really wanted to follow Christ's teachings they would serve "the least of us", and lower their tuition rather than relying on legacy donations, which again, mostly helps the wealthy. I mean, Jesus Himself was not Catholic.

Instead, they have stated that keeping tradition is more important.

Those legacy families are enabling the endowment, which in turn, enables financial aid to students in need. college is a business. Jesus is not around to pay the tuition for the masses. He would understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ But private universities should be free to do as they please. Notre Dame is little cultish. But so what? ”

That’s fine. ND wants to be a great research university. So let ND forego all federal dollars for research. I don’t want my taxes going to encourage a school that seems to proudly admit legacy admissions. Even more particularly when you know they are very much slanted towards one religious group.

Nd really isn’t a research university

Yes They have some graduate programs but your median big 10 state school will out produce ND at research over a wider variety of fields


Not anymore:

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-selected-to-join-association-of-american-universities/

AAU members are research universities.

Yep. That poster is clueless. The AAU is an invitation only and exclusive club comprised of only the nation’s premier research universities. ND has arrived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes but Asians and whites attend college at a rate greater than their current percentage of population. Hispanics and other URMs do not. It will likely stay that way for some time.

but if ND wants to have the majority of its students be Catholics, then they'll have to admit more Hispanic students.

Why is that true? How many qualified white Catholic applicants do you think they get a year? I bet they get enough to fill the class a few times over.

But, white Catholics are declining in this country. They makeup maybe like 10% of the population, and they tend to be older.



The median age of a White Catholic is 54, while the median age of a Hispanic Catholic is 42.

In like 30 years, the majority of Catholics in this country will be Hispanics. So, yea, if ND wants to remain a mostly Catholic institution, they'll have to admit more Hispanics.

And why wouldn't they? You seem to be operating under an assumption that lots of Catholic Hispanics are applying and getting rejected in droves. As if it always comes down to the rich white legacy vs the Hispanic. Where is the proof? It's much more likely that the thumb on the scale hurts the rich white non-legacy Catholic more than anyone else. I remember that being the case of the people I knew who got in and those who didn't. Equally white, wealthy and smart, the only difference was the legacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ But private universities should be free to do as they please. Notre Dame is little cultish. But so what? ”

That’s fine. ND wants to be a great research university. So let ND forego all federal dollars for research. I don’t want my taxes going to encourage a school that seems to proudly admit legacy admissions. Even more particularly when you know they are very much slanted towards one religious group.

Nd really isn’t a research university

Yes They have some graduate programs but your median big 10 state school will out produce ND at research over a wider variety of fields


Not anymore:

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-selected-to-join-association-of-american-universities/

AAU members are research universities.

Yep. That poster is clueless. The AAU is an invitation only and exclusive club comprised of only the nation’s premier research universities. ND has arrived.

In 2023!

😂

Even “crappy” schools like penn state produce more original research volume than ND and have been in aau since 1958

[Anonymous]

[list]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy probablyy the most efficient way to build the singular, similar mindset of the next generation that ND seeks?

Efficiency doesn’t equal moral or ethical. Which is fine. It’s a choice.

There is nothing immoral or unethical about legacy admissions, despite the desperate efforts to portray them as such.

There is for an institution that purports to follow Christ's teachings.

How so? When you have to choose a small group from a large pool of qualified applicants, what in your opinion is the morally superior way to select a class?

Legacy mostly helps the wealthy. Christ doesn't teach to help the wealthy. If ND really wanted to follow Christ's teachings they would serve "the least of us", and lower their tuition rather than relying on legacy donations, which again, mostly helps the wealthy. I mean, Jesus Himself was not Catholic.

Instead, they have stated that keeping tradition is more important.

Catholics believe thatb Jesus founded the Catholic Church and Peter was the first Pope, but this is not a theology forum.

[Anonymous]

LMFAO nobody cares about the insignificant AAU.
There are bunch of mediocre schools on the list.

ND is a R1 research university not because of AAU, but because of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

WTF people LOL

[Anonymous]

The way the world attacks anything Christian really boosts my faith in the Bible.
“This is the condemnation. Light has come into the world but the world loved darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil.”
“ We know that we are from God, but the whole world temporarily lies in the power of the evil one.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy probablyy the most efficient way to build the singular, similar mindset of the next generation that ND seeks?

Efficiency doesn’t equal moral or ethical. Which is fine. It’s a choice.

There is nothing immoral or unethical about legacy admissions, despite the desperate efforts to portray them as such.

There is for an institution that purports to follow Christ's teachings.

How so? When you have to choose a small group from a large pool of qualified applicants, what in your opinion is the morally superior way to select a class?

Not using legacy would be a start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The way the world attacks anything Christian really boosts my faith in the Bible.
“This is the condemnation. Light has come into the world but the world loved darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil.”
“ We know that we are from God, but the whole world temporarily lies in the power of the evil one.”

Way to excuse your own bad behavior. Pointing out that you’re a hypocrite is just an attack on being Christian and this reinforces your faith. Got it.