It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Yeah we know. It’s such an advantage that [b]tech has something like 8% black enrollment. Wow so many people must be checking the box. Before you throw out ridiculous accusations just check to see if the facts even begin to support it.

Is only relevant in comparison to the # of qualified Black applicants.

AA Dad here.
Both of our sons got rejected from both UVA and VT ( class of 2022 and class of 2025)
DS1 stats: SAT 1510, GPA 4.2 with 6 APs (mix of 4's and 5's)
DS2 stats: SAT 1530, GPA 4.4 with 8 APs ( one 3 and the rest all 5's)
EC: Not great for both. Mostly playing multiple sports but not recruited athletes.

Based on our experience none of these state schools thought AA sons were NOT qualified.

Last time I checked VT is currently 4.9% black and UVA is 5.2% black. Is it possible that most of the admitted AA are athletes?

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/virginia-polytechnic-institute-and-state-university/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

No! No! No! This doesn't fit into the racists' narrative they love to float on DCUM. What excuse will they give their precious rejected white males when the S.CT guts affirmative action? Maybe the jews will be up next!

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Anonymous wrote:UVA does not yield protect

No, but they are whores for OOS tuition. Always been that way. They get very little $ from the state.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

DP. True, but many of those kids are white (first-gen). Actual URM is far less than 40% - as the PP said, more like 15%.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

DP. Oh, please. All this means is that - everything else being equal (grades, scores, ECs, etc.) - a student who is an URM or first-gen might be chosen over one who is not. At any rate, the vast majority of VT students are white. My own white, UMC kid was accepted last year. You're really making so much more out of this than is necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Of course it's verified. They obviously get demographic information from the high schools, against which they verify things like race and/or first-gen. You can't just check the "black/Hispanic" box if you've been registered as a white student all through high school.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:The kid must have had one bad essay, bad extracurriculars and also is white or Asian.

We live in McLean. There are many families who stretch their housing budgets to live here. Not everyone is rich, especially in the public schools. Most of the rich kids attend private schools.

It is also very annoying to hear that kids have a 4.5+ because of grade inflation. It is difficult to get all As in all honors/AP classes.

Anonymous wrote: Agreed, I don’t feel there is grade inflation in the honors and AP classes at Mclean, at least not in terms of getting As. It may be fairly easy to pull at least Bs but my bright and very diligent student is working his butt off trying to pull As instead of A minuses or B pluses in these classes.

We also have a kid in McLean. FCPS does not let most kids take APs in 9th grade and only AP World History in 10th grade. If DC takes all possible honors and APs (including for foreign language), the max weighted GPA is about 4.5. It could be theoretically higher if DC does dual enrollment or is on a very advanced math track but the former doesn't get much traction if it's a NVCC course and the kids on the latter track are/should be at TJ anyway.

Also, there may be grade inflation in the courses but it is really dependent on the teacher. For example, one MHS English teacher is notorious for having an extremely tough curve, regardless of whether the class is regular, honors or AP. YMMV, in other words.

My older DC graduated from MHS in 2021; about 20% of the class had academic honors, e.g., a weighted GPA of at least 4.0. Perhaps that is grade inflation relative to 30-40 years ago, but it's not really grade inflation when compared with other counties that let kids start APs in 9th grade, or have a different weighting system.

Finally, the wailing and lamentations of McLean/Langley parents regarding UVA/VT/W&M is because many are financially constrained. They couldn't swing the costs of a Potomac, Landon or a Big 3, but wanted good opportunities from a higher income public high school district so they moved to McLean and Great Falls. They got those opportunities, but not the access to UVA/VT/W&M that they were counting on, so they have to move on to JMU/GMU/VCU, etc., because they can't afford OOS public or private costs. Not saying that we should feel pity for them, but just wanted to put this into context.

No one here is "wailing and lamenting" the fact that they live in McLean/GF but can't afford OOS schools - at least, no more than people who live in other parts of the county are complaining about the same thing. They're simply stating that not everyone who lives in those areas is "rich." That's a fact. As for JMU/GMU/VCU - all are very good schools to which I would be happy to send my kids. Not everyone is gunning for UVA/VT/WM.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Of course it's verified. They obviously get demographic information from the high schools, against which they verify things like race and/or first-gen. You can't just check the "black/Hispanic" box if you've been registered as a white student all through high school.
DP

Just because you say it does not make it so.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Yeah we know. It’s such an advantage that [b]tech has something like 8% black enrollment. Wow so many people must be checking the box. Before you throw out ridiculous accusations just check to see if the facts even begin to support it.

Is only relevant in comparison to the # of qualified Black applicants.

AA Dad here.
Both of our sons got rejected from both UVA and VT ( class of 2022 and class of 2025)
DS1 stats: SAT 1510, GPA 4.2 with 6 APs (mix of 4's and 5's)
DS2 stats: SAT 1530, GPA 4.4 with 8 APs ( one 3 and the rest all 5's)
EC: Not great for both. Mostly playing multiple sports but not recruited athletes.

Based on our experience none of these state schools thought AA sons were NOT qualified.

Last time I checked VT is currently 4.9% black and UVA is 5.2% black. Is it possible that most of the admitted AA are athletes?

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/virginia-polytechnic-institute-and-state-university/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

No! No! No! This doesn't fit into the racists' narrative they love to float on DCUM. What excuse will they give their precious rejected white males when the S.CT guts affirmative action? Maybe the jews will be up next!

There is no way the above AA dad story is true. No way.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

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https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? [b]There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Of course it's verified. They obviously get demographic information from the high schools, against which they verify things like race and/or first-gen. You can't just check the "black/Hispanic" box if you've been registered as a white student all through high school.
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Just because you say it does not make it so.

And right back atcha.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? [b]There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Of course it's verified. They obviously get demographic information from the high schools, against which they verify things like race and/or first-gen. You can't just check the "black/Hispanic" box if you've been registered as a white student all through high school.
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Just because you say it does not make it so.

And right back atcha.

Here’s my proof it’s not verified.

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2021/10/25/survey-asks-if-applicants-are-truthful-about-race

Quote: Admissions experts have varying views of the survey. Most said that colleges do not routinely attempt to verify applicants’ answers on what race or ethnicity they are.

Yours?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Yeah we know. It’s such an advantage that [b]tech has something like 8% black enrollment. Wow so many people must be checking the box. Before you throw out ridiculous accusations just check to see if the facts even begin to support it.

Is only relevant in comparison to the # of qualified Black applicants.

No. If you’re claiming that students who aren’t black are checking the box because it gives them an advantage then it has no relevance.

No, I’m claiming that it’s not relevant to cite the % of Black students at VT in isolation. If only a very tiny # of Black students applied to VT, then that 8% is not out-of-line & doesn’t suggest it is easier or harder for a Black student to get into VT than a student of another race.

Are you purposefully ignoring facts? It’s not just VT. It’s not just black. It’s Hispanic. It’s mixed race. It’s Pacific Islanders. It’s a fact it’s all based on self reporting and if it meant nothing - then, exactly as the Plaintiff said at the Supreme Court- why are they fighting against it so much? And quotes from the justices:

Justice Samuel Alito likened affirmative action to a race in which a minority applicant gets to “start five yards closer to the finish line”.

Brett Kavanaugh: “these racial classifications are potentially dangerous and must have a logical end point”

Alito again: “ If you give a ‘plus’ to a person who falls within the category of under-represented minority, but not to somebody else, you’re disadvantaging the latter student.”

As a white Virginian, I have no problem with this, considering the history of how black Virginians have been treated. You don't even need to go back that far in time - go read some old Virginia newspapers from the 1950's, 60's, 70's. See how the society pages are all about white people and the crime page is all about black people (identified as "John Smith, Negro, was found with an unopened bottle of whiskey....") I've been doing historical research recently which requires reading old newspapers and the blatant racism so recent to the present day is shocking.

Pretending that a group of people don't need a little extra help to succeed after having been enslaved and then treated like third-class citizens for 100 years is wrong.

Agree.

Some Asians - who are beneficiaries of the Civil Rights movement - disagree. They only care about their tiger kid getting into Harvard. Especially the few trolls on DCUM.

Good thing is that most Asian Americans support affirmative action in college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

Meh my nephew is a white male who got in to VT with good but lower stats than OP. VT def rejects high stat kids who they think won’t go to VT.

+1

So does UVA.

That’s why you apply ED - that is, if you’re serious about the school. If not, oh well.

Why do you think it is fair that kids who are strong students have to bind themselves in early fall? When did this become okay with people? The process is broken, especially wrt ED at private which benefits rich people and poor people and leaves everyone else cold.

Seriously? How many times are you going to repeat this nonsense, when your “points” have been refuted over and over? You want your cake and eat it too. Your kid certainly doesn’t have to apply ED. But plenty of others WANT to commit to their first choice school, and should be able to do that through ED. If you don’t, don’t. But quit whining about it.

It’s because insane parents have bought into this flawed system. It needs to be reformed.

So, because you and YOUR kid refused to commit to a school, and clearly didn’t get into the schools you feel they were entitled to get into, the entire process is “flawed” and needs to be “reformed”? And you’re actually calling other parents “insane”? Sure. Whatever you say.

The way you know it’s flawed is because it didn’t favor her kid.

Precisely.

Yeah, it is flawed though. I do not have a dog (or kid) in this fight. Hereś how you know ' thereś an ENTIRE INDUSTRY of consultants to help beat the system, and some of the richest people in Hollywood bought into it all.

Thatś messed up. I should not have to explain it.

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They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.

I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.

Same.

New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.

the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.

Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.

I don’t know what thread you’re reading. How many diversity comments are on this thread alone? You won’t be happy til the “process” reduces the already low numbers to zero. That’s how you will decide whether the process is fair.

Incorrect. You think it’s about reducing the admitted kids from only certain groups. I’m looking at making it race blind. You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t say: Jim is an URM but had great stats and is as qualified as anyone else to be admitted and if you think he was admitted bc he’s an URM, you’re racist. If you think he shouldn’t be considered bc he’s an URM, you’re racist.


And then equally not be able to say: Jim is an URM. He’s qualified to be admitted. He was admitted or denied notwithstanding his race bc it was a race blind process.

The current process results in a class at Tech that is not even 15% URM. At what point will you believe that it’s race blind?

Tech is 40.4% URM and underserved students. It’s been a big goal of principal Sands to hit 40% URM and first-generation, which he did two years ago. Google it

Actually, isn’t it more accurate to say it’s 40.4% of setudent who self identify as URM and underserved students?

You would have ask Virginia Tech. They are very big on getting in more URMs and first generation, military, the poor, etc, Since the headmaster has been pushing this publicly since 2016, I would guess they track everything very closely and admit only the ones that fit their boxes

Seriously? There is no tracking or accountability. You think if someone checks off mixed race or African American they verify it. Absurd. It’s self identified only and we know what that means.

Yeah we know. It’s such an advantage that [b]tech has something like 8% black enrollment. Wow so many people must be checking the box. Before you throw out ridiculous accusations just check to see if the facts even begin to support it.

Is only relevant in comparison to the # of qualified Black applicants.

AA Dad here.
Both of our sons got rejected from both UVA and VT ( class of 2022 and class of 2025)
DS1 stats: SAT 1510, GPA 4.2 with 6 APs (mix of 4's and 5's)
DS2 stats: SAT 1530, GPA 4.4 with 8 APs ( one 3 and the rest all 5's)
EC: Not great for both. Mostly playing multiple sports but not recruited athletes.

Based on our experience none of these state schools thought AA sons were NOT qualified.

Last time I checked VT is currently 4.9% black and UVA is 5.2% black. Is it possible that most of the admitted AA are athletes?

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/virginia-polytechnic-institute-and-state-university/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

No! No! No! This doesn't fit into the racists' narrative they love to float on DCUM. What excuse will they give their precious rejected white males when the S.CT guts affirmative action? Maybe the jews will be up next!

There is no way the above AA dad story is true. No way.

For starters, UVA was over 7% black in 2022. https://diversitydata.virginia.edu/Home/Details/Undergraduate%20Students