slur during last nights FCPS Board mtg

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Anonymous wrote:Making the "R" word into the new "N" word is like trying to make fetch happen.


Does she have any issue with the latter?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.


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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.


So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?


A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.


No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.


Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.


Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.


This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.


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Most people haven’t uttered slurs impulsively. It’s insane that person who clearly throws around horrifying slurs regularly is trying to normalize her appalling behavior.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.


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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.


So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?


A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.


No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.


Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.


Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.


This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.


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There might be something to this mentality if it was applied across the board - and not just to excuse liberals when they say bigoted or racist things. That kind of grace would never be given to a Republican.


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This. Precisely.
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Anonymous wrote:Making the "R" word into the new "N" word is like trying to make fetch happen.


It's not a contest o r a ranking of bad words, but it is absolutely well-established that the R word is a slur and is not to be used. This has been the case for YEARS. It is particularly problematic for a person connected with the world of education, which of course deals quite a bit with education of persons with disabilities, to ever use that word.


Bingo.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.


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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.


So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?


A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.


No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.


Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.


She is supposed to running our school system. This was not simply an “impulsive” mistake.

She must resign or be removed.


She can’t be “removed” except by voters. She should resign.


Shaming people out of jobs/elected office used to actually serve as a guard rail. But then 2016 came along... and you know what happened. Shame lost it's only value.


Exactly Trump was one big shame and stain for our country.... and nothing has happened to him. It's a mad world.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone point me to the email from Michelle Reid on the matter?


It’s her weekly emails to staff.


Can you post the text of it?
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Well, if people want to get rid of Keys Gamarra for this reason or for any reason, all they need to do is vote.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if people want to get rid of Keys Gamarra for this reason or for any reason, all they need to do is vote.


If she runs again, she might well win simply because she has greater name recognition than other candidates. But she doesn't deserve another term and really ought to consider stepping down after this episode.
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Retarded is medical term and not anywhere near a slur. When used offensively, it is equivalent to the word “stupid” or “fool”. Those are mean words but not slurs. Doctors don’t use the “n word” to describe medical conditions.

Examples of medical uses:
Psychomotor retardation
https://www.verywellmind.com/psychomotor-retardation-380166

intrauterine growth retardation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/intrauterine-growth-retardation

Mental retardation
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

Growth retardation
https://www.healthline.com/health/delayed-growth
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Anonymous wrote:Retarded is medical term and not anywhere near a slur. When used offensively, it is equivalent to the word “stupid” or “fool”. Those are mean words but not slurs. Doctors don’t use the “n word” to describe medical conditions.

Examples of medical uses:
Psychomotor retardation
https://www.verywellmind.com/psychomotor-retardation-380166

intrauterine growth retardation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/intrauterine-growth-retardation

Mental retardation
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

Growth retardation
https://www.healthline.com/health/delayed-growth


??? GMAFB. She wasn't using it in a medical sense. She was using it like it used to be used on the playground. Spin failed.
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Who is the clueless person trying to justify the word? Stop.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Retarded is medical term and not anywhere near a slur. When used offensively, it is equivalent to the word “stupid” or “fool”. Those are mean words but not slurs. Doctors don’t use the “n word” to describe medical conditions.

Examples of medical uses:
Psychomotor retardation
https://www.verywellmind.com/psychomotor-retardation-380166

intrauterine growth retardation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/intrauterine-growth-retardation

Mental retardation
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

Growth retardation
https://www.healthline.com/health/delayed-growth


??? GMAFB. She wasn't using it in a medical sense. She was using it like it used to be used on the playground. Spin failed.


Reading comprehension fail. Try again. Can you find the main idea? (Hint: check the topic sentence)
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Anonymous wrote:Retarded is medical term and not anywhere near a slur. When used offensively, it is equivalent to the word “stupid” or “fool”. Those are mean words but not slurs. Doctors don’t use the “n word” to describe medical conditions.

Examples of medical uses:
Psychomotor retardation
https://www.verywellmind.com/psychomotor-retardation-380166

intrauterine growth retardation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/intrauterine-growth-retardation

Mental retardation
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

Growth retardation
https://www.healthline.com/health/delayed-growth


??? GMAFB. She wasn't using it in a medical sense. She was using it like it used to be used on the playground. Spin failed.


Reading comprehension fail. Try again. Can you find the main idea? (Hint: check the topic sentence)


Your main idea has failed...completely. Your defense is in the origination of the word? When used offensively, it is equivalent to describing somebody as having an intellectual disability. The n-word is derived from a color. So does that make it okay for you?
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Anonymous wrote:Retarded is medical term and not anywhere near a slur. When used offensively, it is equivalent to the word “stupid” or “fool”. Those are mean words but not slurs. Doctors don’t use the “n word” to describe medical conditions.

Examples of medical uses:
Psychomotor retardation
https://www.verywellmind.com/psychomotor-retardation-380166

intrauterine growth retardation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/intrauterine-growth-retardation

Mental retardation
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

Growth retardation
https://www.healthline.com/health/delayed-growth


??? GMAFB. She wasn't using it in a medical sense. She was using it like it used to be used on the playground. Spin failed.


Reading comprehension fail. Try again. Can you find the main idea? (Hint: check the topic sentence)


DP but when KKG becomes an MD you can come back and try to spin this nonsense. Until then you’re just proving how double standards rule on this School Board.
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The school board can’t fire her - it’s not about a double standard on their part. People need to start a petition and email her and tell her to go. She is getting a pass because of the color of her skin and it’s not okay. She is supposed to be in charge of kids and she has repeatedly used a slur that affects kids in her care despite being informed and educated about it from others personally and in a formal resolution.
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