slur during last nights FCPS Board mtg

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

Thank you. I would like to see some real contrition from Keys Gamarra, which would include resigning her seat.

It’s not going to happen. She knows she is bullet proof.

Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

She is supposed to running our school system. This was not simply an “impulsive” mistake.

She must resign or be removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was great news earlier this month when dopey Karl Frisch lost his primary and two-faced Elaine Tholen announced she wouldn’t run again and hopefully it will be good news again this week if potty-mouthed Karen Keys Gamarra agrees to resign.

A derogatory slur aimed at children goes way beyond “potty-mouthed,” particularly when it repeatedly comes from an educational leader who is supposed to know better (not to mention her utter failure as a role model).

Why hasn’t she resigned?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

She is supposed to running our school system. This was not simply an “impulsive” mistake.

She must resign or be removed.

She can’t be “removed” except by voters. She should resign.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

THREE TIMES. She has been told it’s wrong, apologized, AND THEN DID IT AGAIN. Stop being an apologist for this just because you like her for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

She is supposed to running our school system. This was not simply an “impulsive” mistake.

She must resign or be removed.

She can’t be “removed” except by voters. She should resign.

Shaming people out of jobs/elected office used to actually serve as a guard rail. But then 2016 came along... and you know what happened. Shame lost it's only value.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.

I also vehemently disagree with this statement. I would also say that if you are a person who has this kind of "struggle" with your subconscious, then a job that requires you to be a public-facing and on camera discussing issues that affect lots of different groups... is not the job for you.
Do I think this woman is EVIL? Obviously there are worse things a person could do. Do I think this person should resign? Yes. Anyone struggling to this extent from refraining from saying this word should not be in an education role.

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Making the "R" word into the new "N" word is like trying to make fetch happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

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This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.

I also vehemently disagree with this statement. I would also say that if you are a person who has this kind of "struggle" with your subconscious, then a job that requires you to be a public-facing and on camera discussing issues that affect lots of different groups... is not the job for you.
Do I think this woman is EVIL? Obviously there are worse things a person could do. Do I think this person should resign? Yes. Anyone struggling to this extent from refraining from saying this word should not be in an education role.

She seems to be having trouble educating herself! Maybe she's the one who is actually -- R-word. (i.e. slow to learn).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Making the "R" word into the new "N" word is like trying to make fetch happen.

explain why it should not be considered nearly as bad. Without saying "we used to say it all the time" it's literally so cruel. We just normalized it's cruelty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Making the "R" word into the new "N" word is like trying to make fetch happen.

It's not a contest o r a ranking of bad words, but it is absolutely well-established that the R word is a slur and is not to be used. This has been the case for YEARS. It is particularly problematic for a person connected with the world of education, which of course deals quite a bit with education of persons with disabilities, to ever use that word.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that different in age than KKG and I heard the r-word all the time growing up, sometimes as a slur and sometimes as merely descriptive. For some time, it's been clear that people now view the word as a slur, and I don't use it, whether I'm angry or exasperated or not. It's not that hard, and for KKG's defenders to suggest it's beyond her ability to control her mouth says more about KKG and her own sense of entitlement than anything else.

+1

This is not a word that accidentally slips out unless you view slurring the disabled as no big deal.

So, you've never said anything impulsively that you came to regret later because it didn't align with your intent or core values?

A slur? No, I can confidently say that I have never accidentally used a slur. And I grew up when the r-word was in common use. I never impulsively talk about being “gy***” for being ripped off either and that was common when I was a kid (and I didn’t even know that referred to a group of people when I was a kid). But the answer is no, I have never accidentally used a slur like what’s been done here.

Words like that don’t “slip out.” They are used because she uses the slur regularly. If it “slips out” it is because the speaker views the slur as acceptable. The entire point is that her casual comfort with the slur shows that it in fact does align with her core values, demonstrating how she views disabled students in particular.

No. I asked if you have ever said anything impulsively that you later came to regret.

Yes, I have. And that has nothing to do with using a derogatory slur that refers to kids whose education you are supposed to be championing.

Actually, it does. People are very different with different lived experiences. Each person has a unique complex subconscious ingrained with a messy stew of emotions, thought processes, and speech patterns that fuel impulsive speech. You appear to be in a very small minority of people who has never uttered any slur impulsively; I commend you for that. At the same time, your subconscious is unique, just like the subconscious of the Board member. One is not better than the other.

The Board member said something impulsively in poor taste. She recognized it. She apologized for it. Time to move on.

This is bizarre. Hard disagree with this whole excuse making statement.

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There might be something to this mentality if it was applied across the board - and not just to excuse liberals when they say bigoted or racist things. That kind of grace would never be given to a Republican.