24 Girls Recruiting

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

There may be many options to be a part of the team, but the scholarship money goes fast since there isn't a lot of it to go around. If schools have used the bulk of their money on their top recruits, others may now be priced out of that school. So they may looking at schools they hadnt originally considered

Been through it with our DD and this isn't true. At this stage certain coaches with top programs have scholarship offers out to their top prospects and many of those players are still going through their process by scheduling visits to other schools and making their decisions. Coaches will honor their scholarship $ offers for several weeks before applying pressure on their prospects to make their choice.

Every top program can't get all of their top recruits to campus on the very first weekend (or even the second). Many are waiting for them to get to campus before making an offer with $ but they are def holding scholarship $ for them. Players with many options (unless she knows where she wants to go and makes her decision early) will take their time to visit schools to make sure they find the right fit before committing. By the third weekend of September most the top tier list will have completed their short-list visits. Look for a big wave of top players to commit over the next two / three weeks.

Trying to educate myself for the future. How do coaches usually communicate what a scholarship/financial offer will be? Is this an official document or verbal at this point? If verbal has anyone experienced schools changing their offers (up or down) prior to the player signing a LOI? Does a LOI reference what a player will receive? Again, new to all of this.

Verbal offers have no official forms -- though college will usually create a form to be posted online. Usually the coach will give a range and say they hope to finalize by mid-winter. Goalies tend to be a bit more specific, however, goalie recruiting (and to a lesser extent draw specialists) is a totally different beast.

However, these can always change up until you sign your LOI, which has scholarship terms ($$ amount, whether it is 1 year or 4 years). On the boys side, the #1 recruit in the country for 23s just switched commitment from Duke to UVA. I guarantee some UVA commits got their $$ reduced as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Goalies have to be the exception right? Nobody taking two goalies in the same class. I would imagine they tell them they have offered 3-4 goalies, and first come first serve?

No schools will take two goalies same class. See Notre Dame and North Carolina.

Also based on their rankings and meetings. Why would I let my 4th ranked goalie commit when my #1 goalie is still available, that’s actually any position.

Some will if a goalie has recently left. But the 2nd goalie will likely be a walk-on.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

There may be many options to be a part of the team, but the scholarship money goes fast since there isn't a lot of it to go around. If schools have used the bulk of their money on their top recruits, others may now be priced out of that school. So they may looking at schools they hadnt originally considered

Been through it with our DD and this isn't true. At this stage certain coaches with top programs have scholarship offers out to their top prospects and many of those players are still going through their process by scheduling visits to other schools and making their decisions. Coaches will honor their scholarship $ offers for several weeks before applying pressure on their prospects to make their choice.

Every top program can't get all of their top recruits to campus on the very first weekend (or even the second). Many are waiting for them to get to campus before making an offer with $ but they are def holding scholarship $ for them. Players with many options (unless she knows where she wants to go and makes her decision early) will take their time to visit schools to make sure they find the right fit before committing. By the third weekend of September most the top tier list will have completed their short-list visits. Look for a big wave of top players to commit over the next two / three weeks.

Trying to educate myself for the future. How do coaches usually communicate what a scholarship/financial offer will be? Is this an official document or verbal at this point? If verbal has anyone experienced schools changing their offers (up or down) prior to the player signing a LOI? Does a LOI reference what a player will receive? Again, new to all of this.

All great questions. Scholarship offers are verbal at this stage but I've never heard of a coach pulling it (or decreasing it) unless the player engages in some type of behavior that warrants the coach de-committing the player overall for "cause" (i.e. player gets arrested, writes an offensive social post, etc.). Some coaches will give you a spreadsheet breaking down the offer, but it still isn't official until the LoI. Some offers are flat discounts per year, others offer an increased percentage off per year to incentivize the player to stay with the program throughout her years at the school (X% off freshman year, y% off sophomore year, etc). Other coaches keep a portion of their scholarship funds in the bank which they can use to lure diamond-in-the rough players they might spot at fall / following summer tournaments. I have also heard of coaches spending some of this "bank" scholarship money on previously committed class players -- who weren't offered much / any scholarship money when they committed -- shortly before their LoI signing. (Coaches need to spend it because it's use or lose to them.) The LoI players sign in the fall of their senior year spells out the terms of their scholarship and that's when everything is official. Hope this helps

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

At this point maybe a quarter to a third of the Top 20 commits have been posted. Should see a number announced in the next several weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

At this point maybe a quarter to a third of the Top 20 commits have been posted. Should see a number announced in the next several weeks.

Top 20 teams, not individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:1 to Northwestern

A 23 and now 24 from the WCAC

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

There may be many options to be a part of the team, but the scholarship money goes fast since there isn't a lot of it to go around. If schools have used the bulk of their money on their top recruits, others may now be priced out of that school. So they may looking at schools they hadnt originally considered

Been through it with our DD and this isn't true. At this stage certain coaches with top programs have scholarship offers out to their top prospects and many of those players are still going through their process by scheduling visits to other schools and making their decisions. Coaches will honor their scholarship $ offers for several weeks before applying pressure on their prospects to make their choice.

Every top program can't get all of their top recruits to campus on the very first weekend (or even the second). Many are waiting for them to get to campus before making an offer with $ but they are def holding scholarship $ for them. Players with many options (unless she knows where she wants to go and makes her decision early) will take their time to visit schools to make sure they find the right fit before committing. By the third weekend of September most the top tier list will have completed their short-list visits. Look for a big wave of top players to commit over the next two / three weeks.

Trying to educate myself for the future. How do coaches usually communicate what a scholarship/financial offer will be? Is this an official document or verbal at this point? If verbal has anyone experienced schools changing their offers (up or down) prior to the player signing a LOI? Does a LOI reference what a player will receive? Again, new to all of this.

All great questions. Scholarship offers are verbal at this stage but I've never heard of a coach pulling it (or decreasing it) unless the player engages in some type of behavior that warrants the coach de-committing the player overall for "cause" (i.e. player gets arrested, writes an offensive social post, etc.). Some coaches will give you a spreadsheet breaking down the offer, but it still isn't official until the LoI. Some offers are flat discounts per year, others offer an increased percentage off per year to incentivize the player to stay with the program throughout her years at the school (X% off freshman year, y% off sophomore year, etc). Other coaches keep a portion of their scholarship funds in the bank which they can use to lure diamond-in-the rough players they might spot at fall / following summer tournaments. I have also heard of coaches spending some of this "bank" scholarship money on previously committed class players -- who weren't offered much / any scholarship money when they committed -- shortly before their LoI signing. (Coaches need to spend it because it's use or lose to them.) The LoI players sign in the fall of their senior year spells out the terms of their scholarship and that's when everything is official. Hope this helps

Unless you are a top prospect (top 20 in the country), it is rare to get offered an exact amount at this point in the process. Coaches may offer a range, but it can and will change throughout your juniors. Also, top prospects will likely be able to negotiate 4-year committments, everyone else will likely be year to year.

Also, you should ask about stacking. Some schools will deduct any academic $$, or financial aid you get from your athletic $$. While other will allow you to use those $$ incrementally to further reduce tuition cost .

Rule of thumb -- don't commit to a school if you can't afford it without athletic scholarship $$.

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Anonymous wrote:Goalies have to be the exception right? Nobody taking two goalies in the same class. I would imagine they tell them they have offered 3-4 goalies, and first come first serve?

No schools will take two goalies same class. See Notre Dame and North Carolina.

Also based on their rankings and meetings. Why would I let my 4th ranked goalie commit when my #1 goalie is still available, that’s actually any position.

Goalies usually get more money, so if a school is looking at a goalie in the class, that can impact the pot, as good goalies (and sometimes draw specialists) will get a better offer or coaches will hold money for them until they get one they want later in the fall if initial targets don’t pan out. Coaches will wait for the goalie they want (within reason) throughout the fall as musical chairs play out. Top goalies are often picking between multiple offers and have multiple visits.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

There may be many options to be a part of the team, but the scholarship money goes fast since there isn't a lot of it to go around. If schools have used the bulk of their money on their top recruits, others may now be priced out of that school. So they may looking at schools they hadnt originally considered

Been through it with our DD and this isn't true. At this stage certain coaches with top programs have scholarship offers out to their top prospects and many of those players are still going through their process by scheduling visits to other schools and making their decisions. Coaches will honor their scholarship $ offers for several weeks before applying pressure on their prospects to make their choice.

Every top program can't get all of their top recruits to campus on the very first weekend (or even the second). Many are waiting for them to get to campus before making an offer with $ but they are def holding scholarship $ for them. Players with many options (unless she knows where she wants to go and makes her decision early) will take their time to visit schools to make sure they find the right fit before committing. By the third weekend of September most the top tier list will have completed their short-list visits. Look for a big wave of top players to commit over the next two / three weeks.

Trying to educate myself for the future. How do coaches usually communicate what a scholarship/financial offer will be? Is this an official document or verbal at this point? If verbal has anyone experienced schools changing their offers (up or down) prior to the player signing a LOI? Does a LOI reference what a player will receive? Again, new to all of this.

All great questions. Scholarship offers are verbal at this stage but I've never heard of a coach pulling it (or decreasing it) unless the player engages in some type of behavior that warrants the coach de-committing the player overall for "cause" (i.e. player gets arrested, writes an offensive social post, etc.). Some coaches will give you a spreadsheet breaking down the offer, but it still isn't official until the LoI. Some offers are flat discounts per year, others offer an increased percentage off per year to incentivize the player to stay with the program throughout her years at the school (X% off freshman year, y% off sophomore year, etc). Other coaches keep a portion of their scholarship funds in the bank which they can use to lure diamond-in-the rough players they might spot at fall / following summer tournaments. I have also heard of coaches spending some of this "bank" scholarship money on previously committed class players -- who weren't offered much / any scholarship money when they committed -- shortly before their LoI signing. (Coaches need to spend it because it's use or lose to them.) The LoI players sign in the fall of their senior year spells out the terms of their scholarship and that's when everything is official. Hope this helps

+1 - great post

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

The early commits are all Top tier players with many offers/options, so they were the first choices of most teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

The early commits are all Top tier players with many offers/options, so they were the first choices of most teams.

They are top tier players but are “among” (not the only) top choices of their committed schools. Guarantee others received offers at the same time but are still shopping. Those who committed early are great players but they just decided earlier than others who are still deciding.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I’m only seeing 1-UVA, 2-JMU, 1-Syracuse. That’s it. Is there more?

That must be the top tier of players. How long until schools get to the next tier?

Those are just the players who decided early. Many top tiers are still going on visits and evaluating offers / options. Many options.

The early commits are all Top tier players with many offers/options, so they were the first choices of most teams.

If early commits to date truly represent the top tier players then Syracuse, South Florida, Denver, Virginia, BC, UNC, and PSU are off to hot starts the first two weeks.

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Dont see the NW commitment but 1 to Princeton and 1 to Denver.

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Anonymous wrote:Dont see the NW commitment but 1 to Princeton and 1 to Denver. [/quote

NW Commit -> https://www.instagram.com/p/CidqZzUvthg/

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NW commit plays for Skywalkers not Capital.