24 Girls Recruiting

[Anonymous]

As a former college lax coach at a D1 university, they don’t care about scores, who beat who. They don’t care about rankings because everyone knows us club lax rankings are garbage. They care about finding the right athlete or right fit for their program and want to see that athlete play in competitive games. Yes, we all know who the more well known powerhouse clubs are, and yes they tend to gravitate to those clubs sometimes first to watch players. This all depends if they have a shot at signing that player. Coaches also have to be realistic as to where they spend their time. For example, if Capital beats m&d, again, coaches don’t care, they want to evaluate the players for who they are plying against top competition. I myself and many other coaches have attended lopsided games and just got up and went to watch another one, because the kids we were looking at couldn’t really perform at the e level that the coaches wanted to see them perform because the competition was horrible. But not one coach came running up to other coaches and immediately started talking about score. Yes they will say it’s not worth watching because it’s a lopsided game, but no coaches care about the score.
Infact, not sure if this is true, but I heard some tournaments in the future if it’s just a showcase maynot even keep score or post it, because it doesn’t make sense when the athletes are their to perform the best they can. Keeping score also alters how the students play and again, coaches don’t want to see a stall or a team down by 3 goals frantically changing their style likes it’s the national championship and start forcing bad shots just to score.
Again, just my opinion and my over 12 years of coaching at that level.
I hope I did some Justice with this post but as I always say, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion.

[Anonymous]

agreed with pp and see your point. Guess lax parents just like to brag at all the wins and goals we get......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a former college lax coach at a D1 university, they don’t care about scores, who beat who. They don’t care about rankings because everyone knows us club lax rankings are garbage. They care about finding the right athlete or right fit for their program and want to see that athlete play in competitive games. Yes, we all know who the more well known powerhouse clubs are, and yes they tend to gravitate to those clubs sometimes first to watch players. This all depends if they have a shot at signing that player. Coaches also have to be realistic as to where they spend their time. For example, if Capital beats m&d, again, coaches don’t care, they want to evaluate the players for who they are plying against top competition. I myself and many other coaches have attended lopsided games and just got up and went to watch another one, because the kids we were looking at couldn’t really perform at the e level that the coaches wanted to see them perform because the competition was horrible. But not one coach came running up to other coaches and immediately started talking about score. Yes they will say it’s not worth watching because it’s a lopsided game, but no coaches care about the score.
Infact, not sure if this is true, but I heard some tournaments in the future if it’s just a showcase maynot even keep score or post it, because it doesn’t make sense when the athletes are their to perform the best they can. Keeping score also alters how the students play and again, coaches don’t want to see a stall or a team down by 3 goals frantically changing their style likes it’s the national championship and start forcing bad shots just to score.
Again, just my opinion and my over 12 years of coaching at that level.
I hope I did some Justice with this post but as I always say, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion.

Thank you for your post / info. I wish
College coaches would post on here and share insight! Also why are US club lax rankings crap?

[Anonymous]

Edit: I wish MORE college coaches would post on this lax forum!

[Anonymous]

Seems extreme to say US Club ranking are garbage. They may not be perfect but generally have the top 5 to 10 teams identified. Seems like it can actually help good teams from certain years from lesser known clubs get on the radar (so their players can be seen). I can also think of some of the big clubs that have a very off year or two. Far less reason those teams should get a lot of looks just based on name alone. The US Club ranking help in that regard. The rankings have also improved - it seems - over time.

Let’s be honest though - these are competitive girls who want to win! That is not bad. Also, it’s not 4th grade lacrosse where one or two players can dominate alone. A good team highlights the strengths of all on it and they can do more with good players around them. Isn’t there still some place for the fun of being on a good team and working toward a common goal together. Not just a bunch of free agents trying to showcase themselves? Maybe I am just being naive.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the PP the US Club Lax rankings have improved. However, their algorithm still needs some tweaking. It seems to overweight goal differential as part of its ranking. This rewards teams for playing easier schedules and beating up on weak teams. It seems to undervalue strength of schedule as a factor. Penalizing those teams that play hard schedules and may lose closer games. What should be weighted the most are those metrics that encourage teams to play the best teams. This seems to be that matters most to college coaches. They want to watch good competitive games, not easy lopsided wins.

[Anonymous]

ok, you got me there, maybe "garbage" to describe the US Club Rankings was to harsh of a term. However, I will tell you, that most college coaches doing this for a long time know the top elite clubs (producing talent) and have a relationship with them so they can easily make a phone call. Club rankings are really not the best format and the way it's calculated, is not great either. With that said, that doesn't mean that a college coach won't take interest in other players that play for lesser known clubs in areas that may not be hot beds for club lax. Coaches are always looking for that diamond in a rough and are proud of the fact that they can say they have "recruits" from all over the country from all different clubs. The one thing i will stress is this-- Every college program and coach recruits in different ways (yes there are similar tendencies), but for the most part recruiting is not an exact science, it also has a lot to do with the current class (money-if it's D1 or 2) program, future needs and the entire culture of the team. Coaches are looking for that right fit, and it has to work both ways for the student and the college program. I'll give everyone an example of what i mean about not an "exact" science. This is real world and actually happens more than you think, but coach plans to watch player A, and starts to randomly watch another game and see's player B. This scenario happens a lot because coaches cant be everywhere and they are trying to see as many games or players as they can.

All of this is my humble opinion based on coaching at that level for years. I also find these threads very interesting as someone told me to take a look last week. It amazes me all the bashing of players, coaches and other parents on this board, it's pretty disturbing. At the end of the day, lacrosse just like any other sport is a game, and their will be a time where the player loses interest or hangs up their cleats. We should be building these players up, not breaking them down and judging. I've said my piece, take it for what it's worth..... Have a great holiday everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok, you got me there, maybe "garbage" to describe the US Club Rankings was to harsh of a term. However, I will tell you, that most college coaches doing this for a long time know the top elite clubs (producing talent) and have a relationship with them so they can easily make a phone call. Club rankings are really not the best format and the way it's calculated, is not great either. With that said, that doesn't mean that a college coach won't take interest in other players that play for lesser known clubs in areas that may not be hot beds for club lax. Coaches are always looking for that diamond in a rough and are proud of the fact that they can say they have "recruits" from all over the country from all different clubs. The one thing i will stress is this-- Every college program and coach recruits in different ways (yes there are similar tendencies), but for the most part recruiting is not an exact science, it also has a lot to do with the current class (money-if it's D1 or 2) program, future needs and the entire culture of the team. Coaches are looking for that right fit, and it has to work both ways for the student and the college program. I'll give everyone an example of what i mean about not an "exact" science. This is real world and actually happens more than you think, but coach plans to watch player A, and starts to randomly watch another game and see's player B. This scenario happens a lot because coaches cant be everywhere and they are trying to see as many games or players as they can.

All of this is my humble opinion based on coaching at that level for years. I also find these threads very interesting as someone told me to take a look last week. It amazes me all the bashing of players, coaches and other parents on this board, it's pretty disturbing. At the end of the day, lacrosse just like any other sport is a game, and their will be a time where the player loses interest or hangs up their cleats. We should be building these players up, not breaking them down and judging. I've said my piece, take it for what it's worth..... Have a great holiday everyone.

Very interesting perspective and thank you for posting. I guess it’s just a crap shoot and a relationship game then which is very disappointing, honestly.

[Anonymous]

Not saying all of recruiting is a crapshoot, that is just one scenario that I pointed out. Lots of things go into a successful recruiting season but my point was, every program and coach tends to have their own way of recruiting.
Just be realistic on your daughters level of play with maybe some reach schools thrown in the mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two more Capital 24 Blue commits. ND and Umass. The entire team is committed.

Are you certain the entire Cap 24 Blue team is committed (and committed to D1)? I believe there are a couple players weighing options still. Nothing wrong with that, btw.

[Anonymous]

Cap Orange 24 committed to Hopkins today.

[Anonymous]

If you’re looking just to the club to get your daughter or son to get your kid recruited, than it’s on you and your kid for failure.
Your kid needs to reach out to coaches. It’s up to your kid to follow up. It’s up to your kid to sell themselves via video of their play.

And remember, it’s up to the parents to keep their mouths shut on the sidelines, to not “coach” their kids via the sidelines and up to the parents to shut the F up as to the goings on on the fields. You can ruin it for your son/ daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re looking just to the club to get your daughter or son to get your kid recruited, than it’s on you and your kid for failure.
Your kid needs to reach out to coaches. It’s up to your kid to follow up. It’s up to your kid to sell themselves via video of their play.

And remember, it’s up to the parents to keep their mouths shut on the sidelines, to not “coach” their kids via the sidelines and up to the parents to shut the F up as to the goings on on the fields. You can ruin it for your son/ daughter.

Are you a college coach too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re looking just to the club to get your daughter or son to get your kid recruited, than it’s on you and your kid for failure.
Your kid needs to reach out to coaches. It’s up to your kid to follow up. It’s up to your kid to sell themselves via video of their play.

And remember, it’s up to the parents to keep their mouths shut on the sidelines, to not “coach” their kids via the sidelines and up to the parents to shut the F up as to the goings on on the fields. You can ruin it for your son/ daughter.

Oh look, another YJ MA parent.

[Anonymous]

Pride 24 with another commit- Monmouth.