UVA out Friday night

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Maybe they meant UNC, VA and VA Tech Engineering?

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Anonymous wrote:50,000 applications. You can do everything right and still not make it when you’re talking about that many.

UVA is small, but not the only good school in Virginia.

Small?

UVA has less than 4,000 seats for the first year class. It’s not huge like UCLA, Cal or Michigan. So 51,000 applications for 4,000- slots.

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Anonymous wrote:50,000 applications. You can do everything right and still not make it when you’re talking about that many.

UVA is small, but not the only good school in Virginia.

Small?

UVA has less than 4,000 seats for the first year class. It’s not huge like UCLA, Cal or Michigan. So 51,000 applications for 4,000- slots.

Not as large as the largest does not mean small.

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Anonymous wrote:DD, OOS, white, 35 ACT, NMF, great essays, recs, and ECs, max APs at her school. 2 Bs on her report card

Also in at VT, Tulane (full ride), Auburn (full ride) + some safeties

Rejected ND & MIT

Waiting on a few more, but happy so far with these choices in a crazy year for admits.

Congrats! Those are all great options.

Thanks. I agree!

No matter what comes next, she will feel like she made a choice between great options in a crazy year. She sees how it’s playing out for her peers and is truly grateful to have them.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s seemingly tough to be the parent of a reject watching the over the moon parents on the same suburban cul de sac celebrate. In the early 90s, UVA had an in state admit rate of over 40 percent. It’s just brutal now. Chin up and try to transfer if you want to.

It will be interesting to see how many transfer out after first year. Back in the 90s our valedictorian transferred out and into JMU after freshman year. Just because kids get in, doesn’t mean that they will be able to handle it . They are taking the top ranked kids and throwing them into one school. That makes for a very competitive environment.

Very few leave. First year student retention is around 97%

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Anonymous wrote:It’s seemingly tough to be the parent of a reject watching the over the moon parents on the same suburban cul de sac celebrate. In the early 90s, UVA had an in state admit rate of over 40 percent. It’s just brutal now. Chin up and try to transfer if you want to.

It will be interesting to see how many transfer out after first year. Back in the 90s our valedictorian transferred out and into JMU after freshman year. Just because kids get in, doesn’t mean that they will be able to handle it . They are taking the top ranked kids and throwing them into one school. That makes for a very competitive environment.

Your valedictorian is an anomaly. UVA in the 90s was a cakewalk academically compared my public NOVA high school. I can see transferring for purely social reasons, though. That’s the hard part.

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

The big push is first gen.

I suspect you are right. My DS is not first generation and honestly I don’t think he should have the same special consideration as someone who is. He has benefited greatly from the connections and opportunities we have given him.

That’s great for your son. Plenty of non-first generation kids don’t have parents with “connections”—and many first generation kids do.

I was with you until the last part about many first gen kids having connections. Do you really believe that?

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Anonymous wrote:50,000 applications. You can do everything right and still not make it when you’re talking about that many.

UVA is small, but not the only good school in Virginia.

Small?

UVA has less than 4,000 seats for the first year class. It’s not huge like UCLA, Cal or Michigan. So 51,000 applications for 4,000- slots.

Not as large as the largest does not mean small.

UVA s a small flagship compared to other states. That’s why the Commonweslth is pumping money into the other universities tgat have room to grow, like JMU, CNU and GMU, etc. For example, George Mason has 40,000 students, 26,000 of which are undergrads, so entering classes are around 6,500.

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Any good news stories?

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

The big push is first gen.

I suspect you are right. My DS is not first generation and honestly I don’t think he should have the same special consideration as someone who is. He has benefited greatly from the connections and opportunities we have given him.

That’s great for your son. Plenty of non-first generation kids don’t have parents with “connections”—and many first generation kids do.

+1 and I would have been considered first-gen in 1992. AOs
sure didn’t care back then.

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Anonymous wrote:Any good news stories?

Good news as in getting in? My DS got in from non top 3 FCPS.

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Good news as in getting in? My DS got in from non top 3 FCPS.

Wait, FCPS ranks its high schools ?

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

Highest math?

Yes. But Asian male.

I am so sorry. That should not be the case - and race should not even be a required piece of the app.

Many Asian males get in

You do understand that doesn’t answer the question, right? The question is whether Asian males have to have higher qualifications to get admitted than other groups. I don’t know about UVA but that’s clearly what the Harvard data showed in the lawsuit pending before the Supreme Court.

This student has 4.4 GPA, which is the borderline cutoff for UVA. UVA doesn't care as much about SAT as it does about GPA. Many of the kids from my DC's school had an 4.0 UW/4.5+ GPA. This is definitely not the case to be claiming discrimination against Asians.

Mother of the black URM who posted above. Here is another data point. My son has a 4.4 boarder-line GPA. He was not TO and his score was in the middle 50% range. He was waitlisted and given a guaranteed Wise campus transfer option. I’m only posting to counter the false claims that URMs are stealing spots. Also, we do have a Governor’s school, IB, and math and science specialty centers in my area. Meanwhile we are celebrating that my DS unexpectedly got accepted to a top LAC tonight. Congratulations to everyone who got in UVA and other great schools tonight.

What LAC and it is diverse? Mom of black DD looking for diverse LACs (in terms of black people) and not finding many. DD is a sophomore.

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Anonymous wrote:Any good news stories?

Good news as in getting in? My DS got in from non top 3 FCPS.

Wait, FCPS ranks its high schools ?

No, of course not. They have been ranked in terms of their SAT scores. You could search for it here on DCUM. Spoiler alert: It’s pretty much the same as the average household income of the student body.

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Anonymous wrote:If they already know, why not release decisions today?

You might be new to this. Lots of colleges put the decisions out on Fridays so you have a weekend to come to terms with the results if they aren't good.

So they want to ruin a kid’s weekend?

They want a weekend cooling off period before the barrage of angry phone calls begins.