UVA out Friday night

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Anonymous wrote:50,000 applications. You can do everything right and still not make it when you’re talking about that many.

UVA is small, but not the only good school in Virginia.

Small?

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

I don't think USNEWS factors GPA. They have standardized test scores and class rank. GPAs vary greatly state to state.

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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High stat URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

Highest math?

Yes. But Asian male.

Wow I’m really sorry for your kid PP. To be flat out rejected from UVA and waitlisted at Tech with those stats is completely insane. I’m guessing your kid is interested in engineering and being an Asian male seems to be the worst thing to be for Stem majors. Has he been excepted anywhere else? I hope things work out for him!

Or maybe pp’s kid has nothing but gpa and sat score to recommend him. Good numbers alone don’t make you competitive anymore.

Stop with the Asian robot stereotypes.

PP didn’t share anything what their kid had on their application besides grades. Other people share athletic teams, Eagle Scout, etc. GPA/SAT alone is pretty meaningless because, as previously noted, scores alone won’t make you competitive. You need to bring more. Without knowing whether pp’s kid does being more, you have zero basis to asset that it is “insane” this kid was rejected by UVA and waitlisted by VT.

It’s my kid and no way will I share more when I see the type of comments people have posted about him. He brings much more than his stats but I only shared those because that’s what DCUM usually shares. Now I see it doesn’t matter what else I share, these posters have already decided he is unworthy of VT and UVA.

Lol, here’s our perma-victim.

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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High stat URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

The big push is first gen.

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It’s seemingly tough to be the parent of a reject watching the over the moon parents on the same suburban cul de sac celebrate. In the early 90s, UVA had an in state admit rate of over 40 percent. It’s just brutal now. Chin up and try to transfer if you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s seemingly tough to be the parent of a reject watching the over the moon parents on the same suburban cul de sac celebrate. In the early 90s, UVA had an in state admit rate of over 40 percent. It’s just brutal now. Chin up and try to transfer if you want to.

It will be interesting to see how many transfer out after first year. Back in the 90s our valedictorian transferred out and into JMU after freshman year. Just because kids get in, doesn’t mean that they will be able to handle it . They are taking the top ranked kids and throwing them into one school. That makes for a very competitive environment.

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

The big push is first gen.

I suspect you are right. My DS is not first generation and honestly I don’t think he should have the same special consideration as someone who is. He has benefited greatly from the connections and opportunities we have given him.

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I think a lot of kids must be taking the UVA-Wise option. I looked at their profile in SCHEV today and was surprised at how high the GPA was vs a few years ago

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Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

Actually, according to school stats one of the “Whites” took that kid’s “spot.”
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-virginia-main-campus/student-life/diversity/

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URM mom located in central Va chiming in. My kid was deferred from EA. We have yet to check if he got in during RD because UVA is not our top choice for Virginia schools. Without getting into it, I am not thrilled about recent events and the location of the school. For admitted Black URM, the school has had lower than average enrollment rates in recent years. Trust me, we are not taking your spots.

Except, if it is true that UVA is getting lower yield from URMs, they are probably admitting a higher percentage of URMs, so as to yield the number they need to meet their goals. Thus increasing the perception that URMs have an edge.

Nope. In recent years it has been the same percentage accepted which was surprising to me since there is supposed to be some big initiative to increase diversity. I don’t have the link to the stats handy but it published.

The big push is first gen.

I suspect you are right. My DS is not first generation and honestly I don’t think he should have the same special consideration as someone who is. He has benefited greatly from the connections and opportunities we have given him.

That’s great for your son. Plenty of non-first generation kids don’t have parents with “connections”—and many first generation kids do.

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Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted after being deferred EA. 4.2, TO

Mine was flat out rejected, 4.3, TO, double legacy, with a job and a paid IT internship, varsity athlete. He wa happy for the rejection so there was no additional hoping. Deferral to rejection is a ride.

4.3 is under the cut off at my DS’s school. There are lots of kids who take more APs and get A’s in them.

+1 the lowest GPA accepted at our NOVA public last year was 4.44 (it was my kid so I know). Used to be pretty solidly 4.3, but that has been moving up.

This was way outside NoVa. Just to show leaving NoVa is not the anecdote

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Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted after being deferred EA. 4.2, TO

Mine was flat out rejected, 4.3, TO, double legacy, with a job and a paid IT internship, varsity athlete. He wa happy for the rejection so there was no additional hoping. Deferral to rejection is a ride.

4.3 is under the cut off at my DS’s school. There are lots of kids who take more APs and get A’s in them.

+1 the lowest GPA accepted at our NOVA public last year was 4.44 (it was my kid so I know). Used to be pretty solidly 4.3, but that has been moving up.

This was way outside NoVa. Just to show leaving NoVa is not the anecdote

Huh? It was (and is) Northern Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:Once tonight’s results get posted, many of you will become rage monsters against UVA. I’ve followed these college threads for several years and nothing seems quite as triggering as a rejection from UVA, especially for well-qualified students. Good luck!

If tonight is a rejection (and based on the percentage of EA deferred kids who get in, that is by far the most likely outcome at this point), I am going to be annoyed [insert stronger language here]. Kid goes to a large Arlington HS, has a 3.96 GPA/4.53 wGPA, a 35 ACT, is a full IB-diploma candidate, has taken 5 AP classes plus a Dual-Enrollment class, is an Eagle Scout, a varsity athlete, and a super strong club sport athlete as well. Other than applying ED, not sure what else he could have done. Based on the Naviance scatterplots, it should not be a close call (nothing but green below and to the left of his spot), but I suppose we'll see in a few hours.

This is my kid. Waitlisted. Honestly kind of stunned.

As you should be. That is honestly crazy to me. I would absolutely be a rage monster. So sorry for your kid - I hope that he gets off the waitlist if UVA is still where he want to be.

I am really sorry for your kid. Deserved better with that amazing resume. Completely their loss. Good luck where he ends up. I hope he applied to Ivy and gets in.

Happened to us, too - yield protection - they think you will pick another school.

And we did.

Plenty of high stats kids are still accepted. No yield protection. Just too many similar stats...

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And deferred FCPS kids accepted? Or FCPS kids accepted. UNCVA and VT Engineering were a bloodbath at our school.

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Anonymous wrote:And deferred FCPS kids accepted? Or FCPS kids accepted. UNCVA and VT Engineering were a bloodbath at our school.

What is UNCVA?