US has no good options in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. NATO doesn’t even want Ukraine to join. China is the existential threat. We should be a quasi - ally of Russia like we were in WW2.

The DC crew is really stupid. As soon as Trump leaves they screw literally everything up in a year.

This.

I cannot even fathom how fast the wheels came off as soon as the Biden clownshow took over. 366 days in and we’re seriously contemplating a war with Russia. UFB. And China IS going for Taiwan, probably in April. They see the chaos and for them, this is THE moment to strike. They’ll never have a better opportunity than right now.


All brought to the world by Joe.

Lol, sure China is watching what Russia is doing to the Ukraine. How the world reaponds to Russia will determine their course of action. Biden, Ukraine, and our European allies are playing this exactly right. We cannot stop Russia from invading. All we can do is impose consequences if they do. Ukraine cannot stop them either. All they can do is make it painful for Russia. Russia cannot defeat NATO in a conventional war and they know that. We don't have to do anything and there's nothing for us to do. We cannot give them Ukraine because Ukraine is not ours to give. We cannot give them Romania and Bulgaria because they are not ours to give. If Russia wants to destroy itself that's their choice. NATO is not going to preemptively attack. But, we will defend ourselves if we are attacked.

[Anonymous]

LOL, the traitors operate in plain sight domestically and abroad.

Gotta ask why Prince, manafort, Guiliani etc are all working to undermine Ukraine on behalf of Russia?

[Anonymous]

hoisted by their own petard

[Anonymous]

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I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

The conventional forces aren't the best, but as we know, illiterates with AKs didn't have much trouble holding off the most advanced military in the world for a couple decades. Resources AND will.

[Anonymous]

Fiona Hill in the NY Times today says that Putin's ultimate goal is to get the US out of Europe.

As I have seen over two decades of observing Mr. Putin, and analyzing his moves, his actions are purposeful and his choice of this moment to throw down the gauntlet in Ukraine and Europe is very intentional. He has a personal obsession with history and anniversaries. December 2021 marked the 30th anniversary of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, when Russia lost its dominant position in Europe. Mr. Putin wants to give the United States a taste of the same bitter medicine Russia had to swallow in the 1990s. He believes that the United States is currently in the same predicament as Russia was after the Soviet collapse: grievously weakened at home and in retreat abroad. He also thinks NATO is nothing more than an extension of the United States. Russian officials and commentators routinely deny any agency or independent strategic thought to other NATO members. So, when it comes to the alliance, all Moscow’s moves are directed against Washington.

She believes that Russia needs to pay a higher price than just financial sanctions if Russia further invades Ukraine:

Mr. Biden has promised that Russia “will pay a heavy price” if any Russian troops cross Ukraine’s borders. If Mr. Putin invades Ukraine with no punitive action from the West and the rest of the international community, beyond financial sanctions, then he will have set a precedent for future action by other countries. Mr. Putin has already factored additional U.S. financial sanctions into his calculations. But he assumes that some NATO allies will be reluctant to follow suit on these sanctions and other countries will look the other way. U.N. censure, widespread and vocal international opposition, and countries outside Europe taking action to pull back on their relations with Russia might give him pause. Forging a united front with its European allies and rallying broader support should be America’s longer game. Otherwise this saga could indeed mark the beginning of the end of America’s military presence in Europe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-biden.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

Yeah, Russia is pretty good at information warfare. You all have done a fantastic job. But social media is not reality. Russia is bluffing and demanding surrender. That's not goong to happen. Go ahead, invade Ukraine right before the Beijing Olympics. You'll destroy your day economy, kill thousands of your own citizens, entrench NATO in Poland and Romania, force Sweden to join NATO, and piss off China. We're not afraid of Russia and we're not as hopelessly divided as you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

Yeah, Russia is pretty good at information warfare. You all have done a fantastic job. But social media is not reality. Russia is bluffing and demanding surrender. That's not goong to happen. Go ahead, invade Ukraine right before the Beijing Olympics. You'll destroy your day economy, kill thousands of your own citizens, entrench NATO in Poland and Romania, force Sweden to join NATO, and piss off China. We're not afraid of Russia and we're not as hopelessly divided as you think.

Agree! It won’t be Afghanistan. It will be quick and easy victory against Russia. The oligarchs have bled that country dry.

[Anonymous]

Fiona Hill in the NY Times today says that Putin's ultimate goal is to get the US out of Europe.

Absolutely. Russia's goal is to destabilize democracies around the world. Breaking down NATO would be massive for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kicking them off SWIFT should do the trick.

Yeah?

So I guess you’re all-in for sending your precious little Larlo over there to fight it out with Ivan, eh?

Or will you leave that to all those red-state kids…. again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

Yeah, Russia is pretty good at information warfare. You all have done a fantastic job. But social media is not reality. Russia is bluffing and demanding surrender. That's not goong to happen. Go ahead, invade Ukraine right before the Beijing Olympics. You'll destroy your day economy, kill thousands of your own citizens, entrench NATO in Poland and Romania, force Sweden to join NATO, and piss off China. We're not afraid of Russia and we're not as hopelessly divided as you think.

Agree! It won’t be Afghanistan. It will be quick and easy victory against Russia. The oligarchs have bled that country dry.

It’s fascinating watching all the leftist doves here putting on their hawk costumes, knowing they won’t be doing the fighting.

[Anonymous]

Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kicking them off SWIFT should do the trick.

Yeah?

So I guess you’re all-in for sending your precious little Larlo over there to fight it out with Ivan, eh?

Or will you leave that to all those red-state kids…. again.

Lol, we're not fighting anything out. If Russia invades Ukraine (again) there will be massive worldwide sanctions. If Russia attacks Poland, the Baltics or Romania then they will be declaring war on us and we will defend ourselves. If they do nothing then we'll all keep keeping on. The choice is yours not ours. We aren't the ones making threats or itching for war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

Yeah, Russia is pretty good at information warfare. You all have done a fantastic job. But social media is not reality. Russia is bluffing and demanding surrender. That's not goong to happen. Go ahead, invade Ukraine right before the Beijing Olympics. You'll destroy your day economy, kill thousands of your own citizens, entrench NATO in Poland and Romania, force Sweden to join NATO, and piss off China. We're not afraid of Russia and we're not as hopelessly divided as you think.

Agree! It won’t be Afghanistan. It will be quick and easy victory against Russia. The oligarchs have bled that country dry.

It’s fascinating watching all the leftist doves here putting on their hawk costumes, knowing they won’t be doing the fighting.

We know the MAGA crowd love Putin. You already told us you would rather be Russian than a liberal. We got it. You support Russia and think they’re powerful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.

Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.

Now do per capita

US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.

The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.

The conventional forces aren't the best, but as we know, illiterates with AKs didn't have much trouble holding off the most advanced military in the world for a couple decades. Resources AND will.

Meanwhile other illiterates with AK’s drove the most modern military on earth out of Afghanistan.