Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

What I don't understand is why is it that in this age and technology, the cockpit voice recorder can only record 2 hours,. Who on earth thought that was a good idea? UGHHHHH NOW WE will never know what happened in the beginning since the plane flew for over 7 hours after it disappeared ughhhhhh

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Anonymous wrote:There was no communication from the pilots of the ghost flights in the US and Australia. There's only seconds between losing pressure and losing consciousness on the smaller planes. It's difficult to think without enough oxygen. The Greek flight was a larger plane. The pilots reported an air conditioning issue before they stopped communicating.

But if this happened, wouldn't the plane keep communicating automatically? No messages were sent about anything. Very mysterious.

It would unless their communication systems were damaged in whatever caused depressurization. A small explosion of onboard material or fire could do that.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand is why is it that in this age and technology, the cockpit voice recorder can only record 2 hours,. Who on earth thought that was a good idea? UGHHHHH NOW WE will never know what happened in the beginning since the plane flew for over 7 hours after it disappeared ughhhhhh

It records everything, though. If someone touched any of the controls, the black box will show it. It shouldn't be difficult to tell if someone was doing evasive maneuvering or they just dropped out of the sky because the fuel ran out.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't record everything.It overwrites and only saves the last 2 hours

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't record everything.It overwrites and only saves the last 2 hours

The 2 PPs are talking about different things. The black box voice recorder only keeps the last 2 hours. The other part records thousands of data points about the plane for the entire trip, I understand.

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Does anyone know the answer to this:

If something incapacitates the pilots, can the air stewards get into the cockpit?


I am not an expert, but I did hear that the only way to get into the cockpit when it is locked is to be let in by someone from the inside. So, no, based on what i have heard over the last couple if weeks, if the pilot and copilot are incapacitated, the passengers cannot get in.

Having said that, I do remember that a flight steward was seen in the cockpit of the Greek 'phantom' airplane where the pilots had lost consciousness. Such a sad story. Once he gained entry (as witnessed by military planes flying beside) one of the engines lost power due to running out of fuel and the plane crashed.


There is absolutely a way on every plane for the flight crew to enter the cockpit in case of emergency if the door is locked from the inside. how is not something that airlines reveal as obviously it isn't something they want the general public knowing. However the pilot or copilot can override the attempt to enter (if they are conscious). So if a hijacker is trying to gain entrance to the cockpit and knows how to do so from the cabin, the pilot can bar that entry. If however the pilots are incapacitated then the flight crew can gain entry.

Nope no way to get in once the door is locked.


Yes there is. There is emergency entrance to every cockpit. Not something airlines want you to know about, but its there.

No there is not. Just because you think there is does not mean there is. Stop it.

Go visit PPRune. Hundreds of pilots can tell you it exists, although they won't tell you much more about it than that.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't record everything.It overwrites and only saves the last 2 hours

The 2 PPs are talking about different things. The black box voice recorder only keeps the last 2 hours. The other part records thousands of data points about the plane for the entire trip, I understand.

The Flight Deck Recorder records the last 25 hours of flight activity so assuming they can find it they will know far more about what happened. They won't have an y record of conversations in the cockpit but they will be able to see all the technical side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't record everything.It overwrites and only saves the last 2 hours

The 2 PPs are talking about different things. The black box voice recorder only keeps the last 2 hours. The other part records thousands of data points about the plane for the entire trip, I understand.

Yes, by "records everything" I meant it records a ton of operational data. That should be enough to give us an idea of what happened.

[Anonymous]

When men commit suicide, they do it in a quick and lethal way. It seems odd that a man would wait and fly around for 7 hours to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand is why is it that in this age and technology, the cockpit voice recorder can only record 2 hours,. Who on earth thought that was a good idea? UGHHHHH NOW WE will never know what happened in the beginning since the plane flew for over 7 hours after it disappeared ughhhhhh

Also in this day and age on a sophisticated airplane that is subject to hijacking (as all planes are) that you can simply turn off a locator with a flick of a swotch and then the whole world has to spend millions and millions of dollars looking for it. 1950s technology in the tracking!

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Anonymous wrote:When men commit suicide, they do it in a quick and lethal way. It seems odd that a man would wait and fly around for 7 hours to do it.

I think his demon told him he needed to bring a couple 100 other bodies as sacrifice and that he should look for penguines

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't record everything.It overwrites and only saves the last 2 hours

The 2 PPs are talking about different things. The black box voice recorder only keeps the last 2 hours. The other part records thousands of data points about the plane for the entire trip, I understand.

Yes, by "records everything" I meant it records a ton of operational data. That should be enough to give us an idea of what happened.

I don't think that's enough. If they find that this was deliberate , they will just blame the pilots. How do we know he wasnt forced into it? How do we know it wasn't someone else in the cockpit? The only way to know is to have a recording of what people are saying in the cockpit. It s crazy that nobody thought about this and that people thought recording just 2 hours is enough. We have the technology to wiretap civilians for hours and days but can only record 2 hours of voice in the cockpit? That's insane

[Anonymous]

Just popping in, have not read most of the 130 pages so excuse me in advance if this has been rattled around already.

I think it is SO odd that they keep saying "floating debris" for a plane that they have no proof of actually crashing into the ocean. And everytime someone goes out to investigate "said debris", there is not trace of it?!?

Now I'm reading that experts - one in particular that studies litter in oceans and he's saying its merely "trash/litter/garbage" and that several freighters lose their "freight" in the ocean all the time due to rough seas.

And NO I am not a birther or a conspiracy theorist. I just find this so odd and pieces are not adding up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just popping in, have not read most of the 130 pages so excuse me in advance if this has been rattled around already.

I think it is SO odd that they keep saying "floating debris" for a plane that they have no proof of actually crashing into the ocean. And everytime someone goes out to investigate "said debris", there is not trace of it?!?

Now I'm reading that experts - one in particular that studies litter in oceans and he's saying its merely "trash/litter/garbage" and that several freighters lose their "freight" in the ocean all the time due to rough seas.

And NO I am not a birther or a conspiracy theorist. I just find this so odd and pieces are not adding up.

+1 I don't understand how they can declare that it crashed in the Indian Ocean if they still can't find ANY debris from the actual plane or its contents. Things aren't adding up here!

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Anonymous wrote:Just popping in, have not read most of the 130 pages so excuse me in advance if this has been rattled around already.

I think it is SO odd that they keep saying "floating debris" for a plane that they have no proof of actually crashing into the ocean. And everytime someone goes out to investigate "said debris", there is not trace of it?!?

Now I'm reading that experts - one in particular that studies litter in oceans and he's saying its merely "trash/litter/garbage" and that several freighters lose their "freight" in the ocean all the time due to rough seas.

And NO I am not a birther or a conspiracy theorist. I just find this so odd and pieces are not adding up.

+1 I don't understand how they can declare that it crashed in the Indian Ocean if they still can't find ANY debris from the actual plane or its contents. Things aren't adding up here!

Agree. The "likely" scenario that is emerging is that the lead pilot was depressed or disgruntled enough to set into action an incredibly complex and devious plan to incapacitate his co-pilot, incapacitate or fool 239 passengers, switch off all systems, and fly under radar for seven hours to ensure that no communication is made to anyone to reach without intervention or detection the most desolate and most inhospitable part of the ocean in which to crash to ensure that any evidence that this ever happened is never collected. If we are to believe this, then my next question is why did this guy turn out to be just a commercial airline pilot? He should have been ruling the world.

Of all the information that has come out about the pilot or the co-pilot, no one has talked about what absolute geniuses they are.