Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched the documentary and was riveted by this story when it first happened. I guess the part I can’t wrap my head around is how did none of the passengers place a call to their families. Even if the pilot locked himself in the cockpit and was depressurizing the cabin, there would have been time for someone, anyone to place a call. Even the flight attendant could have called the airline like they did on 9/11. That part baffles me. 239 people on board and not one person raised the alarm that something was amiss. This is why I’m beginning to believe the missile theory because the incident had to have been instantaneous and catastrophic. And If he veered off course as the satellite data suggest how did no one pick a rogue plane up in their airspace? That was something I hadn’t thought about before but it makes sense—someone would have noticed something on radar even if he turned off communications with controllers. The case is just utterly fascinating. How can we lose a 777?!?

I agree the case is totally mystifying, but the one part that doesn’t really surprise me is the lack of phone calls.

At cruising altitude, rapid decompression will lead to most people being unconscious in less than 30 seconds - maybe as little as 10 seconds. It’s not really obvious what is happening - often people experiencing hypoxia will feel perfectly fine right up until they pass out. Their only warning would be a decompression alarm, assuming the pilot didn’t disable it.

So, picture: it’s the middle of the night, you’ve settled in at cruise altitude. Most people have probably put their phones away and are resting, possibly asleep. Was the alarm disabled? We don’t know. If it was, passengers just … passed out. They likely had no clue that anything was wrong. If the alarm did go off, what are people going to do with those 10-30 seconds? The plane wasn’t in radar contact or radio range - what kind of cell signal do you think they had, even if they could get their phones out in time? 9/11 was: low altitude, in range of cell towers, mid morning so everyone was awake and many probably already had phones in hand. Totally different situation.

I hadn't thought of that. Maybe the series mentioned the 30 sec timeframe and I missed it. Just incredible that he could have potentially knock all the passengers and staff out in seconds. The theory in the series is that he locked the co-pilot out. Wouldn't he have caused a scene realizing he was locked out triggering people to react? Or maybe it all happened so quickly, he too was overcome by lack of oxygen. Unreal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not see the Netflix show, but I followed this case extensively in real time, every lead and theory.

We can fairly safely conclude that it is nearly certain that the Pilot of 370 intentionally committed mass murder-suicide.

It is proven beyond a doubt that the airplane crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean. 100s pieces of debris have been washed ashore in Reunion and other islands, at least 30 of them have been positively identified with serial numbers and acknowledged by Malaysian Airlines to have been positively from the plane.

The shut off of the location transponder was manual, from inside the cockpit, within less than one minute after a “cheery goodbye” from the Captain (the plane’s last communication with someone), exactly as the plane was being handed off. This excludes hijackers or other third parties involvement.

We have data showing that the airplane made two sharp turns that could only be done by a human pilot, not by the autopilot.

We also have data showing that the plane was taken to 40,000 feet early on, and extremely quickly. There can be only one reason; to incapacitate everyone on board. Only the cockpit has oxygen masks that last hours.

While it could theoretically been either of the pilots, the Malaysian government found flight simulator runs in the Captain’s home that mirror some of the maneuvers that 370 carried out.

The flight simulator is a small bit of evidence. How long before the crash did he practice the maneuver? Did he start after the Freescale employees bought tickets (paid off by someone) or did someone plant that as evidence to frame the pilot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not see the Netflix show, but I followed this case extensively in real time, every lead and theory.

We can fairly safely conclude that it is nearly certain that the Pilot of 370 intentionally committed mass murder-suicide.

It is proven beyond a doubt that the airplane crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean. 100s pieces of debris have been washed ashore in Reunion and other islands, at least 30 of them have been positively identified with serial numbers and acknowledged by Malaysian Airlines to have been positively from the plane.

The shut off of the location transponder was manual, from inside the cockpit, within less than one minute after a “cheery goodbye” from the Captain (the plane’s last communication with someone), exactly as the plane was being handed off. This excludes hijackers or other third parties involvement.

We have data showing that the airplane made two sharp turns that could only be done by a human pilot, not by the autopilot.

We also have data showing that the plane was taken to 40,000 feet early on, and extremely quickly. There can be only one reason; to incapacitate everyone on board. Only the cockpit has oxygen masks that last hours.

While it could theoretically been either of the pilots, the Malaysian government found flight simulator runs in the Captain’s home that mirror some of the maneuvers that 370 carried out.

Wanted to add, reading another comment here, that I agree; it is likely that one pilot shut the other out of the cockpit and then quickly took the plane to 40,000 feet. I remember when this first became clear (the altitude and how fast the plane made it there) that many airline pilots commented that everyone would experience the G-forces and it was an on-the-edge maneuver of what this plane can do. At the same time depressurizing the cabin would have given everyone on the plane very little time to react. Sadly there is also precedence for a pilot locking the other pilot out and committing mass -murder/suicide: Germanwings 9525.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:End of first episode was essentially RUSSIA DID IT!. Typical Netflix - documentary became political and is meant to drum up more support for financing Ukraine

You must agree:

Russia is evil and devious. They are an enemy of the United States.

Everyone knows that.

Everyone except Republicans.

Nearly all Republicans have signed off on aid to Ukraine, and supported our role in helping Ukraine repel Russia’s unlawful war of aggression.

Ron Paul is, in fairness, a Libertarian like his father, although he caucuses with the Republicans (just as Bernie is not really a democrat). Go do your reading on Libertarians’ views of ANY foreign intervention.

And yes, there are a few radical outliers opposed to aid; they are outliers. Would you agree 100% of democrats are represented by The Squad?

BS. McCarthy doesn’t have control of the Rs crazies, which include governors and a former POTUS. It’s much more than 4 junior representatives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t they say some of the families got calls? I thought I heard that on the first episode.

Families were calling loved ones cellphones and hearing rings. They believed that this was indicative of a working cellphone at the other end of the call. Cellphones aren't landlines though.

One Chinese family claims they had an incoming call but no one on the other end when they picked up.

Did the phone records support this claim?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t they say some of the families got calls? I thought I heard that on the first episode.

Families were calling loved ones cellphones and hearing rings. They believed that this was indicative of a working cellphone at the other end of the call. Cellphones aren't landlines though.

One Chinese family claims they had an incoming call but no one on the other end when they picked up.

Did the phone records support this claim?

The series didn't address that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not see the Netflix show, but I followed this case extensively in real time, every lead and theory.

We can fairly safely conclude that it is nearly certain that the Pilot of 370 intentionally committed mass murder-suicide.

It is proven beyond a doubt that the airplane crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean. 100s pieces of debris have been washed ashore in Reunion and other islands, at least 30 of them have been positively identified with serial numbers and acknowledged by Malaysian Airlines to have been positively from the plane.

The shut off of the location transponder was manual, from inside the cockpit, within less than one minute after a “cheery goodbye” from the Captain (the plane’s last communication with someone), exactly as the plane was being handed off. This excludes hijackers or other third parties involvement.

We have data showing that the airplane made two sharp turns that could only be done by a human pilot, not by the autopilot.

We also have data showing that the plane was taken to 40,000 feet early on, and extremely quickly. There can be only one reason; to incapacitate everyone on board. Only the cockpit has oxygen masks that last hours.

While it could theoretically been either of the pilots, the Malaysian government found flight simulator runs in the Captain’s home that mirror some of the maneuvers that 370 carried out.

The flight simulator is a small bit of evidence. How long before the crash did he practice the maneuver? Did he start after the Freescale employees bought tickets (paid off by someone) or did someone plant that as evidence to frame the pilot?

It would have been elaborate to plant this evidence. And to what end? We can only say this for certain; one of the pilots of MH370 deliberately crashed that plane. The takeover and change of course was precisely timed for the handoff, and the transponder could only be shut off by someone inside the cockpit who knew exactly what they were doing. What scant evidence there is, it seems more likely it was the Captain, but it was one of the two.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:End of first episode was essentially RUSSIA DID IT!. Typical Netflix - documentary became political and is meant to drum up more support for financing Ukraine

Oh please. I think that theory was very clearly debunked, as well as ridiculed by pretty much everyone (including the people in the episode). This was hardly some political "Russia did it" expose. But, mentioning it was relevant considering a Malaysian airliner was shot down over Ukraine in the year after this one disappeared. So it's not like this theory came out of nowhere . . . .

Yep. That journalist who continues to push this theory borders on looney toons, but it started off as a plausible theory. However, he continues to hold onto it in spite of overwhelming evidence that the theory is looney toons.

It’s disappointing that Netflix gives a voice to nutter conspiracy theories. They did that on that ancient apocalypse show too. WTF?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t they say some of the families got calls? I thought I heard that on the first episode.

Families were calling loved ones cellphones and hearing rings. They believed that this was indicative of a working cellphone at the other end of the call. Cellphones aren't landlines though.

One Chinese family claims they had an incoming call but no one on the other end when they picked up.

Did the phone records support this claim?

The series didn't address that

Crappy series.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not see the Netflix show, but I followed this case extensively in real time, every lead and theory.

We can fairly safely conclude that it is nearly certain that the Pilot of 370 intentionally committed mass murder-suicide.

It is proven beyond a doubt that the airplane crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean. 100s pieces of debris have been washed ashore in Reunion and other islands, at least 30 of them have been positively identified with serial numbers and acknowledged by Malaysian Airlines to have been positively from the plane.

The shut off of the location transponder was manual, from inside the cockpit, within less than one minute after a “cheery goodbye” from the Captain (the plane’s last communication with someone), exactly as the plane was being handed off. This excludes hijackers or other third parties involvement.

We have data showing that the airplane made two sharp turns that could only be done by a human pilot, not by the autopilot.

We also have data showing that the plane was taken to 40,000 feet early on, and extremely quickly. There can be only one reason; to incapacitate everyone on board. Only the cockpit has oxygen masks that last hours.

While it could theoretically been either of the pilots, the Malaysian government found flight simulator runs in the Captain’s home that mirror some of the maneuvers that 370 carried out.

The flight simulator is a small bit of evidence. How long before the crash did he practice the maneuver? Did he start after the Freescale employees bought tickets (paid off by someone) or did someone plant that as evidence to frame the pilot?

It would have been elaborate to plant this evidence. And to what end? We can only say this for certain; one of the pilots of MH370 deliberately crashed that plane. The takeover and change of course was precisely timed for the handoff, and the transponder could only be shut off by someone inside the cockpit who knew exactly what they were doing. What scant evidence there is, it seems more likely it was the Captain, but it was one of the two.

+1

We will never know for sure but this seems like the most likely scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t they say some of the families got calls? I thought I heard that on the first episode.

Families were calling loved ones cellphones and hearing rings. They believed that this was indicative of a working cellphone at the other end of the call. Cellphones aren't landlines though.

One Chinese family claims they had an incoming call but no one on the other end when they picked up.

Did the phone records support this claim?

The series didn't address that

Crappy series.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not see the Netflix show, but I followed this case extensively in real time, every lead and theory.

We can fairly safely conclude that it is nearly certain that the Pilot of 370 intentionally committed mass murder-suicide.

It is proven beyond a doubt that the airplane crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean. 100s pieces of debris have been washed ashore in Reunion and other islands, at least 30 of them have been positively identified with serial numbers and acknowledged by Malaysian Airlines to have been positively from the plane.

The shut off of the location transponder was manual, from inside the cockpit, within less than one minute after a “cheery goodbye” from the Captain (the plane’s last communication with someone), exactly as the plane was being handed off. This excludes hijackers or other third parties involvement.

We have data showing that the airplane made two sharp turns that could only be done by a human pilot, not by the autopilot.

We also have data showing that the plane was taken to 40,000 feet early on, and extremely quickly. There can be only one reason; to incapacitate everyone on board. Only the cockpit has oxygen masks that last hours.

While it could theoretically been either of the pilots, the Malaysian government found flight simulator runs in the Captain’s home that mirror some of the maneuvers that 370 carried out.

I watched the series and also followed the case with interest as you did. I just want to say your analysis is spot on. The most likely scenario (by a wide margin) is that the pilot intentionally did this.

[jsteele]

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