Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the answer to this:

If something incapacitates the pilots, can the air stewards get into the cockpit?

I am not an expert, but I did hear that the only way to get into the cockpit when it is locked is to be let in by someone from the inside. So, no, based on what i have heard over the last couple if weeks, if the pilot and copilot are incapacitated, the passengers cannot get in.

Having said that, I do remember that a flight steward was seen in the cockpit of the Greek 'phantom' airplane where the pilots had lost consciousness. Such a sad story. Once he gained entry (as witnessed by military planes flying beside) one of the engines lost power due to running out of fuel and the plane crashed.

There is absolutely a way on every plane for the flight crew to enter the cockpit in case of emergency if the door is locked from the inside. how is not something that airlines reveal as obviously it isn't something they want the general public knowing. However the pilot or copilot can override the attempt to enter (if they are conscious). So if a hijacker is trying to gain entrance to the cockpit and knows how to do so from the cabin, the pilot can bar that entry. If however the pilots are incapacitated then the flight crew can gain entry.

Thanks for clarifying.

And so even in the case of pilot suicide, the flight crew could know there was something wrong but the pilot could bar them from being able to enter. If the pilots locks the emergency entrance lock, no one can get in.

Pp here. I think I heard it on CNN, which simplified the scenario indicating if one pilot got up and left the cockpit the other one could simply lick the door behind him/her. It left me with the impression that it was a one step locking process.

Lock not lick. (My typo did give me a chuckle).

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Anonymous wrote:There was no communication from the pilots of the ghost flights in the US and Australia. There's only seconds between losing pressure and losing consciousness on the smaller planes. It's difficult to think without enough oxygen. The Greek flight was a larger plane. The pilots reported an air conditioning issue before they stopped communicating.

The main thing is that they reported *something* was not right. And they didn't have their transponders and ACARS disabled.
They were not vanished.

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Anonymous wrote:There was no communication from the pilots of the ghost flights in the US and Australia. There's only seconds between losing pressure and losing consciousness on the smaller planes. It's difficult to think without enough oxygen. The Greek flight was a larger plane. The pilots reported an air conditioning issue before they stopped communicating.

The main thing is that they reported *something* was not right. And they didn't have their transponders and ACARS disabled.
They were not vanished.

One out of 3 reported a problem. The Australian pilot responded with slurred speech before he stopped communicating. The US pilot repeated back info as usual to ATC, but didn't respond when they contacted him 20 seconds later.

If it was a rapid depressurization due to a serious mechanical failure, I don't think losing communication and consciousness is far fetched.

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I hope they find the plane soon. Everyday I check the news and want to hear this. Heartbreaking for the families.

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120 piece debris field spotted.

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Debris field spotted by French satellites. Said to resemble debris field in other similar ocean crashes.

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Now, I have confidence in the French. This has got to be it.

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... So what was on board Flight 370? Malaysian officials, after saying the cargo manifest would "be released in due course," later got a little more specific and said the Boeing 777 was carrying 440 pounds of lithium ion batteries. What else? Nothing that would cause a problem, the Malaysians assure us. An Australian news media report said the Malaysian government refused to release the manifest to the Australian government, which would find such ...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/opinion/adcock-flight-370-lithium-batteries

Now the question is what happened?

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Speaking of competence or lack thereof the entire top of the Malaysian government is run by the same family. Cousins trying to outduel each other.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-25/malaysia-s-crisis-hurts-najib-heir-apparent-as-criticism-swells.html

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Anonymous wrote:Now, I have confidence in the French. This has got to be it.

My thoughts, too. This has to be it. They say though these images are several days old. Still, some confirmation, some actual object should be found very soon!

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Anonymous wrote:Now, I have confidence in the French. This has got to be it.

My thoughts, too. This has to be it. They say though these images are several days old. Still, some confirmation, some actual object should be found very soon!

While the debris field is large, the search area is larger - the size of Alaska according to NPR this AM.

RE: satalite images: most are probably classified.

IF (and this is a big IF) any military satalites happened to spot debris, you will never hear about it. Releasing that info presents a security risk to any country with access to satalites. No one would risk giving other nations potentially useful tactical information about their statalite technology.

Besides, .mil of every country has probably decided everyone on board is dead by now. Why risk security over dead civilians?

That leaves civilian satalites. Now you know why so littel information is released and why the resolution is so poor.

As for the flight data recorders, there are only a few days left to detect the "pings" they give off. Increasingly looks like the plane's debris lies very very deep.

We may never know the cuase. I am leaning towards a mentaly unstable pilot as the cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now, I have confidence in the French. This has got to be it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone know the answer to this:

If something incapacitates the pilots, can the air stewards get into the cockpit?


I am not an expert, but I did hear that the only way to get into the cockpit when it is locked is to be let in by someone from the inside. So, no, based on what i have heard over the last couple if weeks, if the pilot and copilot are incapacitated, the passengers cannot get in.

Having said that, I do remember that a flight steward was seen in the cockpit of the Greek 'phantom' airplane where the pilots had lost consciousness. Such a sad story. Once he gained entry (as witnessed by military planes flying beside) one of the engines lost power due to running out of fuel and the plane crashed.


There is absolutely a way on every plane for the flight crew to enter the cockpit in case of emergency if the door is locked from the inside. how is not something that airlines reveal as obviously it isn't something they want the general public knowing. However the pilot or copilot can override the attempt to enter (if they are conscious). So if a hijacker is trying to gain entrance to the cockpit and knows how to do so from the cabin, the pilot can bar that entry. If however the pilots are incapacitated then the flight crew can gain entry.

Nope no way to get in once the door is locked.

Yes there is. There is emergency entrance to every cockpit. Not something airlines want you to know about, but its there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone know the answer to this:

If something incapacitates the pilots, can the air stewards get into the cockpit?


I am not an expert, but I did hear that the only way to get into the cockpit when it is locked is to be let in by someone from the inside. So, no, based on what i have heard over the last couple if weeks, if the pilot and copilot are incapacitated, the passengers cannot get in.

Having said that, I do remember that a flight steward was seen in the cockpit of the Greek 'phantom' airplane where the pilots had lost consciousness. Such a sad story. Once he gained entry (as witnessed by military planes flying beside) one of the engines lost power due to running out of fuel and the plane crashed.


There is absolutely a way on every plane for the flight crew to enter the cockpit in case of emergency if the door is locked from the inside. how is not something that airlines reveal as obviously it isn't something they want the general public knowing. However the pilot or copilot can override the attempt to enter (if they are conscious). So if a hijacker is trying to gain entrance to the cockpit and knows how to do so from the cabin, the pilot can bar that entry. If however the pilots are incapacitated then the flight crew can gain entry.

Nope no way to get in once the door is locked.


Yes there is. There is emergency entrance to every cockpit. Not something airlines want you to know about, but its there.

No there is not. Just because you think there is does not mean there is. Stop it.

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Anonymous wrote:There was no communication from the pilots of the ghost flights in the US and Australia. There's only seconds between losing pressure and losing consciousness on the smaller planes. It's difficult to think without enough oxygen. The Greek flight was a larger plane. The pilots reported an air conditioning issue before they stopped communicating.

But if this happened, wouldn't the plane keep communicating automatically? No messages were sent about anything. Very mysterious.