Harris vs Trump poll numbers

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Anonymous wrote:Exhibit A of people who are not being polled:

It is interesting that the gender gap in the red states are so much bigger than other states. I wonder why!

I really think that formerly Republican voting women understanding that their vote is secret is going to be a key factor in this election. It’s not like the GOP hasn’t gone out of its way to tell women that they only matter as much as the output of their uterus and to insult women who don’t have children. I met the man I married when we were 18 and we have four beautiful children together but I am not worth more than my friends without children, but that’s how the GOP sees it.

This might be the real silent majority. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant unreported number of voters who will support Harris this fall.

I'm. Not going to hold my breath on it.
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As hard as it it is for some to believe many women agree with Trump and project 25 they aren't abused wives just trying to survive they feel he's the best choice

I just hope that she gets to 270 decisively

I’m not going to hold my breath on it either, and there are women who support Trump and the GOP, and I am free to say the truth about those women: they are voting against their own humanity.

Even worse, in my opinion, women who vote for Trump are voting against the best interests of their own children, especially daughters.

How so? Trump has stated several times that he supports abortion up to a certain number of weeks with exceptions for rape, incest, and health of mother. Of course, listening and reading to only left-wing news, you would never know that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

ok well the mother of a fight is here and it will continue until our daughters have their rights back.

How abortions do your daughters need?

Ignorant. Abortion bans erode standard maternal healthcare practices, fertility treatments, attracting quality professionals to abortion ban states, etc. they are anti pregnancy in fact and can drive up infant mortality rates. Get a clue.

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Have you looked at the infant mortality rates in these states that have restricted health care access? Hint, they have risen!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

You clearly don't understand the circumstances of late term abortions. They are tragic situations. They are not your business to decide on. They are a woman, her family, and her doctor's business.

I'm so tired of you idiots acting like people are aborting healthy babies in the second half of pregnancy. They aren't. They are dealing with a horrible medical situation.

Honestly, you suck.

Actually, there are women who abort near end of pregnancies.

Actually this does not happen. Can't wait till trump starts spouting this nonsense in the debate and Harris destroys him.

Darlin, hate to break it to you. But there are women who have aborted in last trimester.

There are like 3 docs in the US who even do this, it costs like 25k, they have waitlists where they prioritize by urgency, and have said they counsel out women for who this would be "elective." So who and where are these women getting these abortions?

Women aren’t people in the GOP. None of it has to be real, they just repeat it over and over again and all the little weirdos in the GOP believe it.

Women aren’t people in the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

ok well the mother of a fight is here and it will continue until our daughters have their rights back.

How abortions do your daughters need?

Ignorant. Abortion bans erode standard maternal healthcare practices, fertility treatments, attracting quality professionals to abortion ban states, etc. they are anti pregnancy in fact and can drive up infant mortality rates. Get a clue.

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Have you looked at the infant mortality rates in these states that have restricted health care access? Hint, they have risen!

The cruelty is the point.

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BREAKING: Trump and Harris have officially agreed to a debate on September 10th in Philadelphia hosted by ABC with no notes.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

You clearly don't understand the circumstances of late term abortions. They are tragic situations. They are not your business to decide on. They are a woman, her family, and her doctor's business.

I'm so tired of you idiots acting like people are aborting healthy babies in the second half of pregnancy. They aren't. They are dealing with a horrible medical situation.

Honestly, you suck.

Actually, there are women who abort near end of pregnancies.

Actually this does not happen. Can't wait till trump starts spouting this nonsense in the debate and Harris destroys him.

Darlin, hate to break it to you. But there are women who have aborted in last trimester.

There are like 3 docs in the US who even do this, it costs like 25k, they have waitlists where they prioritize by urgency, and have said they counsel out women for who this would be "elective." So who and where are these women getting these abortions?

Women aren’t people in the GOP. None of it has to be real, they just repeat it over and over again and all the little weirdos in the GOP believe it.

Women aren’t people in the GOP.

Time for your meds.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Trump and Harris have officially agreed to a debate on September 10th in Philadelphia hosted by ABC with no notes.

Harris caved because she knows she needs this debate. Her polls aren’t looking good this past week and RFK Jr endorsement is a game changer in states like Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

You clearly don't understand the circumstances of late term abortions. They are tragic situations. They are not your business to decide on. They are a woman, her family, and her doctor's business.

I'm so tired of you idiots acting like people are aborting healthy babies in the second half of pregnancy. They aren't. They are dealing with a horrible medical situation.

Honestly, you suck.

Actually, there are women who abort near end of pregnancies.

Actually this does not happen. Can't wait till trump starts spouting this nonsense in the debate and Harris destroys him.

Darlin, hate to break it to you. But there are women who have aborted in last trimester.

There are like 3 docs in the US who even do this, it costs like 25k, they have waitlists where they prioritize by urgency, and have said they counsel out women for who this would be "elective." So who and where are these women getting these abortions?

literally NO ONE electively aborts in the last trimester. This is the only trope you have.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Trump and Harris have officially agreed to a debate on September 10th in Philadelphia hosted by ABC with no notes.

Great, another embarrassment for our country on live TV for the entire world to see. Those two need notes, teleprompters, drugs, frequent breaks, advisors nearby.....

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

ok well the mother of a fight is here and it will continue until our daughters have their rights back.

How abortions do your daughters need?

If you’d asked my very Catholic mother that question she would have said none. Then I had an ectopic pregnancy rupture. At age 32, married with 2 kids, if it matters. And there was no discussion by the doctors— it was all hands on deck, internal hemorrhage.. My husband was signing forms as they were rushing me into surgery. My Catholic mother is still devastated 15 years later. What I had was an abortion, albeit to save my life (too late to save my fertility though, and I wasn’t able to have the third child I wanted without intervention/ IVF, which I decided against). She believes that this means I am going to hell, and my decision to live (which felt like a medical emergency and not abortion politics) condemns me to hell. Her priest agrees (I didn’t ask her priest, or ask her for her priest’s opinions, but I got them). She still talks about her pain in knowing she won’t see me in heaven. Then again, she doesn’t see me much now. The whole thing was painful and incredibly scary/traumatizing and heartbreaking, and I just can’t with the “I won’t see you in heaven” crap she’s still spouting.

So the answer is. Hopefully none. But life comes at you fast. Hence “the only good abortion is the one I need” mentality. You think your daughter could never possibly need an abortion. But, you could certainly end up like my mother, who would have sworn the same thing. I mean— the only man I ever had sex with was my husband. And yet…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

You clearly don't understand the circumstances of late term abortions. They are tragic situations. They are not your business to decide on. They are a woman, her family, and her doctor's business.

I'm so tired of you idiots acting like people are aborting healthy babies in the second half of pregnancy. They aren't. They are dealing with a horrible medical situation.

Honestly, you suck.

These horrible medical situations can be clearly defined within abortion law that includes exceptions for permissible late-term abortions. That's what we are fighting for.

Not defined in law - let doctors decide what is best for their patient.

You can't subject a person's rights to the discretion of one doctor in an otherwise lawless circumstance. It's okay to have reasonable laws to protect the rights of individuals.

In 1973 SCOTUS held that, "held that personhood could not be granted to a fetus before “viability”—the point around 24 weeks of pregnancy when a fetus can survive outside the womb—and established a constitutional right to abortion access."

A viable fetus is a person. Doctors do not abort viable fetuses. The term "abortion" is a medical procedure that can be used for both elective terminations of a pregnancy and as part of medical care for miscarriages and other medical problems with the pregnancy, including situations where the fetus is not viable and the woman's life is in danger. We know and have seen that legal restrictions on abortion care, which is essential medical care, lead to women dying and babies suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white woman voting against Kamala.

Abortion is nowhere near top of priority list for me.

I hope you or your DD or sister never needs one. But, if they do, I'm sure you'll just go to a blue state. Thank goodness for blue states, right?

#selfish

So you’re voting for an issue that only affects women? Talk about #selfish

My healthcare affects my whole family.

Why didn’t you abort them then?

What the fu&@? What is wrong with you?

Well, the PP seems to post nonstop that abortion is the answer to everything and we should all be voting for her access to abortions.

Huh?

We had the protections of roe for 50 years. The earth continued to spin and in fact, there were less abortions with roe in place then there are now that it is destroyed.

Eventually the protections of roe will be back in place as they should be.

You can't have an adult conversation about abortion law with people who just want to scream "baby-killer" or "forced-birther" to everyone they presume to be on the other side of the issue. They're all idiots.

This is not an issue with a lot of middle ground. Pro choice voters need to get our in great force to fight hard for the laws to reflect women's rights. This is the current intense battle in a long war and yes, abortion bans do try to force women to give birth.

Fight hard for what specific laws? Are you just a rabble rouser with no specific knowledge of what abortion laws are now relative to what they were under Roe or are you capable of having an adult conversation about what those laws should be?

Control the presidency to control SCOTUS appointments for as long as it takes and try to codify the protections of Roe.

So you're saying you believe abortion should be legal and accessible up until the point of fetal viability (23 to 25 weeks) with exceptions granted for late term abortions in special cases? If this is the case, I agree with you and I believe we can both be considered pro-choice.

Trump is not going to help protect your scenario. He blew up roe in the first place. Vote for Harris and Walz to try to achieve it.

Not voting for late term abortions, sorry.

You clearly don't understand the circumstances of late term abortions. They are tragic situations. They are not your business to decide on. They are a woman, her family, and her doctor's business.

I'm so tired of you idiots acting like people are aborting healthy babies in the second half of pregnancy. They aren't. They are dealing with a horrible medical situation.

Honestly, you suck.

Actually, there are women who abort near end of pregnancies.

Actually this does not happen. Can't wait till trump starts spouting this nonsense in the debate and Harris destroys him.

Darlin, hate to break it to you. But there are women who have aborted in last trimester.

There are like 3 docs in the US who even do this, it costs like 25k, they have waitlists where they prioritize by urgency, and have said they counsel out women for who this would be "elective." So who and where are these women getting these abortions?

literally NO ONE electively aborts in the last trimester. This is the only trope you have.

And this is why there were under Roe and should still be special case exceptions to permit abortions past the point of fetal viability.

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My biggest issues are the economy, the border and crime. Liberal women's biggest issue is making sure women have the ability to kill their unborn babies. Sorry but we have different priorities.

Under Biden, GDP and job creation is up.
Border crossings are at 2019 lows, and the GOP tanked the bill that could have permanently addressed the border issues.
Crime is down 30% under Biden.

Abortion is also an economic issue. Forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term saddles her with a responsibility she might not be able to handle, thus leaving the problem to the state. That kid will likely be a ward of the state, either through lack of education, lack or opportunity or worse, crime, thus costing the rest of us more.

So on the face of it, you should be supporting the democrats, for the track record on issues you claim are important to you.

It's easy to pretend crime is down when it's actually up after you (Biden/Harris) direct prosecutors to stop prosecuting crime.

If that is the fantasy world you want to live in, that is fine. Here in the world of fact based data, crime is down.

No you are living in fantasy world along with the other sheep on here trying to gaslight others. Crime is "down" when a large percentage of the crimes were never reported. This has been shown many times but you just want to believe whatever CNN tells you. Those of us living in reality outside of your liberal bubble are struggling financially with inflation, high housing/rent prices and record high credit card debt. There has been out of control government spending during this current administration (ex. housing illegals and billions to Ukraine) while actual tax paying Americans are overlooked. You can look up the polls during the Biden administration. A majority of Americans feel the country has been on the wrong track. Harris had record low approval ratings as VP.

People should stop spending money they don’t have. Isn’t personal responsibility the GOP mantra?

Typical response from an out of touch liberal. Harris is campaigning on "joy" while Americans are struggling out there to make ends meet.

The problem is that they believe everyone who is less than 100% sold out for Harris
doesn't deserve to have their voices heard .
I mean I flat out said I was voting for Harris , but because I don't believe everything is great now and she's going to make everything better, well then I must be Maga.

The point is, she has outlined a plan to continue to reduce prices, because we all experience what you are expressing. No one is saying it is raining while pissing on you. The GOP "plan" will make things worse. But they like to complain about it without viable solutions.

You really think her proposed Communist style price control scheme is going to improve things? Historically this has led to food shortages, food hoarding and black markets. Even the liberal media was raising alarms about it.

Goodness. Where did you get the notion that Harris is proposing price control? Those words or phrase never came out of her mouth. Listen for yourself and not the pundits

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