
https://www.michiganpublic.org/2024-07-23/poll-presidential-race-hits-a-reset-with-harris-vs-trump The interesting thing is the increase in undecideds from 2% to 9%. Is that good for Harris or Trump. It seems most people have already decided on Trump and Biden. So I am thinking this is good for Harris. This is a national poll which is useless because it is only a few swing states that matter - Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Question for VP pick for the Dems is is Pennsylvania tracker your way? If so you need to pick someone who will win you Michigan or Arizona. Dems need Pennsylvania, Michigan and either Arizona or Wisconsin. That’s the race. |
More on this. The Dems can not win without PA and they are behind right now. Josh Shapiro will be the VP is polling show he can deliver the state. |
The undecideds is VERY VERY bad for Trump. People already know what they think of him. Their opinion of him did not change with Harris' entry into the race. If you think he'd make a good president or if you think he's a nightmare, you already know that. That poll means that Harris' base number—the people who automatically knew they'd vote for her is 45 percent. Surely, a lot of the undecideds will not go for her, but she doesn't need many of them to easily push past Trump. It's also bad for him because there were people who didn't want to vote for Biden but abhor Trump so they were considering Kennedy. They're coming home. If Kennedy sees any upside from here on in, it's going to be from Trump voters, and as we talk more and more about how Trump played such a big role in introducing the pfizer and moderna vacines it might quickly become a rush for the exits. Also, a lot of MAGA types are not going to be happy when Trump buckles to Wall Street and dumps Vance. |
The thing about Shapiro is that I think he will be just as effective for Harris if he remains governor and is just an extremely noisy cheerleader. I liked him as a pick, but now think it will be Kelly, and Shapiro as the most prominent surrogate. |
I'm waiting on 538, they have paused their models for a bit to let things stabilize. Makes more sense than trying to infer anything this early. |
RCP only has Pennsylvania polls from before Biden stepped down, as of yet. IOW, useless.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris |
Agree 100% |
So far, Harris is up: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ |
Not a chance Pa is voting for her. |
538 doesn’t mean anything now that Nate Silver is gone. |