The White Lotus season 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.
Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Mia gets the permanent singing gig and the male piano player kills her in a rage. Mia is registered as a guest still and that's why she's referred to as a guest.

This does seem quite likely. The old lounge singer dude is not someone I would want to listen to very long whereas Mia is enchanting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.

Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Ethan is the victim, the new money: Harper wants the money, but doesn’t want to spend her life with Ethan.

When Cameron feels up Harper’s leg, I was surprised she never told Ethan. She’s a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment claims…her job is to fight against sh#tty behavior by men. Yet she omits this truth from Ethan….why? Especially after her getting upset toward Ethan about the night with the hookers. Why didn’t she come clean about Cameron’s behavior?

I think Cameron and Harper are perhaps having a longtime affair and in cahoots. Perhaps Harper actually represented Cameron’s firm in his harassment cases?

Lol no.

She doesn’t need to “come clean” about Cameron’s crap behavior— she didn’t do anything wrong. Also, after Cameron strips in front of her, she DOES tell Ethan and he has basically no reaction. So maybe she figures that between being mad at Ethan and the fact that he didn’t seem to care before, she figures what is the point of telling him more?

Also, no way Harper and Cameron have a longtime affair. These people barely know each other and we witness several scenes between the two of them alone where Harper clearly does not like him and they have no established history.

Sometimes I wonder if the people posting on this thread are really young or just read recaps of the show or something. This “analysis” is just you guys making up random plots based on nothing.

You’re stuck with us - deal with it!

Then might I gently suggest actually watching the show we’re talking about and basing your comments on what we actually see happening in the show? Perhaps another thread for WL fanfic.

Dude did you see the end of Season 1. The ending was so random. By your logic, if PP had spun that one out you would have called her out for writing fan fiction. But there you go. Anything is possible and on the table for the end of Season 2.

Good point; the ending of Season 1 was insane. My theory about Harper & Cameron isn’t so far fetched. It would make sense that if Harper was the Other Woman, she would be obsessed with calling out Daphne/Cameron’s relationship as “fake.”

Did you notice how angry Harper was after Daphne came back to the beach after the massage and was canoodling with Cameron on the lounge chair? It’s hard to tell where her disdain for their fakeness ends and her rage at not being desired like that begins.

I think Harper and Valentina would make a good match.

She is very sexually frustrated. She needs a good bone and her husband won’t give it to her. Daphne infuriates her because at least she’s sexually fulfilled and her husband can’t keep his hands off of her and is very complimentary and does what she wants.

Have you ever noticed that Cam always initiates with Daphne - she never seems to initiate with him - while Harper always initiates with Ethan (though he doesn't respond the way she wants).

He doesn't really give her a chance. He's always on her. I've been married to a guy like that (always on) for 25 years, anytime I walk by he's turned on...'oh look at you in those yoga pants', 'look at those legs'. 'DAMN' and squeezes, tickles, etc. Always very complementary and always ready. The guy has a permanent hard on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone anticipating a big dramatic ending forgot last season. This is a Great Gatsby tale. Everyone who isn’t dead will forget any of it happened within a few months.

This is why I think the fourple maybe just goes home with air kisses and promises to see each other in the states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.

Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Ethan is the victim, the new money: Harper wants the money, but doesn’t want to spend her life with Ethan.

When Cameron feels up Harper’s leg, I was surprised she never told Ethan. She’s a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment claims…her job is to fight against sh#tty behavior by men. Yet she omits this truth from Ethan….why? Especially after her getting upset toward Ethan about the night with the hookers. Why didn’t she come clean about Cameron’s behavior?

I think Cameron and Harper are perhaps having a longtime affair and in cahoots. Perhaps Harper actually represented Cameron’s firm in his harassment cases?

Excellent point about the detail on her handling sexual harassment cases. I think she views Cameron as a very effective way to punish Ethan for being dishonest and also for rejecting her advances. Daphne punished Cam by intentionally triggering his fear of abandonment. Harper uses flirting with Cam (under the guise of plausible deniability) to trigger Ethan’s fear of being one upped by Cam again. The Cam-Harper duo one-upping Ethan is the ultimate insult. This shows how well intimate partners know how to find the jugular and hurt each other.

I don't understand why people are conflating Harper's work with Harper as a person. I get that she's uptight and can be a pill, but even sexual harassment lawyers aren't immune to getting a bit drunk, exercising poor judgement, and liking being hit on by a Cameron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.
Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Mia gets the permanent singing gig and the male piano player kills her in a rage. Mia is registered as a guest still and that's why she's referred to as a guest.

Mia is the Sphinx. I don't see the Sphinx getting killed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.

Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Ethan is the victim, the new money: Harper wants the money, but doesn’t want to spend her life with Ethan.

When Cameron feels up Harper’s leg, I was surprised she never told Ethan. She’s a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment claims…her job is to fight against sh#tty behavior by men. Yet she omits this truth from Ethan….why? Especially after her getting upset toward Ethan about the night with the hookers. Why didn’t she come clean about Cameron’s behavior?

I think Cameron and Harper are perhaps having a longtime affair and in cahoots. Perhaps Harper actually represented Cameron’s firm in his harassment cases?

Lol no.

She doesn’t need to “come clean” about Cameron’s crap behavior— she didn’t do anything wrong. Also, after Cameron strips in front of her, she DOES tell Ethan and he has basically no reaction. So maybe she figures that between being mad at Ethan and the fact that he didn’t seem to care before, she figures what is the point of telling him more?

Also, no way Harper and Cameron have a longtime affair. These people barely know each other and we witness several scenes between the two of them alone where Harper clearly does not like him and they have no established history.

Sometimes I wonder if the people posting on this thread are really young or just read recaps of the show or something. This “analysis” is just you guys making up random plots based on nothing.

You’re stuck with us - deal with it!

Then might I gently suggest actually watching the show we’re talking about and basing your comments on what we actually see happening in the show? Perhaps another thread for WL fanfic.

Dude did you see the end of Season 1. The ending was so random. By your logic, if PP had spun that one out you would have called her out for writing fan fiction. But there you go. Anything is possible and on the table for the end of Season 2.

Good point; the ending of Season 1 was insane. My theory about Harper & Cameron isn’t so far fetched. It would make sense that if Harper was the Other Woman, she would be obsessed with calling out Daphne/Cameron’s relationship as “fake.”

Okok, Omni takes a dump in the wrong room and gets wonked off. Simultaneously Cam accidentally feels up a trans and gets wonked off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The hair may be the giveaway on the Albie-Ethan thing. When he's Albie, his hair is pushed forward. To be Ethan, he pushes it forward and mats it down. Similar personalities, so need for big effort there. Similar wardrobes too.

The different ethnicities is the stickler though.

But it may be that "he" for lack of a batter term is taping his eyes back to be Ethan and untaping them or scrunching them together as Albie. In the same way some women use tape as part of their presentation. Similar body types and skin tones make the ruse easier to carry out. But why? That's what I don't get.

stahhhhp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.
Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Mia gets the permanent singing gig and the male piano player kills her in a rage. Mia is registered as a guest still and that's why she's referred to as a guest.

This does seem quite likely. The old lounge singer dude is not someone I would want to listen to very long whereas Mia is enchanting.

Not a bad theory. The piano player is also likely to be extremely pissed at her for nearly killing him by giving him molly instead of viagra

[Anonymous]

Rather than Tanya, I think Quentin might die. I have a wish that Tanya stops hooking up with the Italian drug dealer before it goes further than we saw last week. She knows enough that something isn't right, maybe gets another vision of shark eyes (Quentin's glare at her seemed to fit the bill) and pulls away. She seemed pretty happy/normal Tanya in the two scenes in next week's preview - not filled with regret or worry over her actions. And I think Quentin matches the Isola Bella story, and even Madama Butterfly, better than Tanya. Like Madama Butterfly, he was the original lover of Greg, and now Greg has finally returned to him but with a wife. He's also holding onto his palazzo at all costs like the Isola Bella lady, and now must owe the mafia a bunch of money for that party and all that coke. If he can't pay up / the con didn't work, maybe Nicolo shoots him? It would be ironic after his suggestive questioning of Tanya about whether she'd be willing to die for beauty if he in fact did.

I also think Cameron might get killed because he is like the testa di moro. The visiting dark man who seduces a local Sicilian girl and then plans to leave to return to his wife and children. He seems utterly unconcerned with paying Lucia - it could be he gets killed by Albie, Alessio, or Lucia. Then again, Daphne's been jokingly alluding to murder since the first episode, so she might kill him.

Quentin and Cameron are also both playing at having the mega-rich lifestyle while possibly being broke or nearly broke. We know Quentin is desperate for money and there are big hints that Cam isn't as rich as he lets on.

Both the testa di moro legend and Madama Butterfly involve death by knife, and the opening credits show one or two people getting stabbed / holding knives - so perhaps a knife is involved? Or I'm being far too literal and people are just getting stabbed in the back by people they trust.

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing they are going to either kill Tanya or take pics of her for husband to use to get more money in prenup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.

Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Ethan is the victim, the new money: Harper wants the money, but doesn’t want to spend her life with Ethan.

When Cameron feels up Harper’s leg, I was surprised she never told Ethan. She’s a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment claims…her job is to fight against sh#tty behavior by men. Yet she omits this truth from Ethan….why? Especially after her getting upset toward Ethan about the night with the hookers. Why didn’t she come clean about Cameron’s behavior?

I think Cameron and Harper are perhaps having a longtime affair and in cahoots. Perhaps Harper actually represented Cameron’s firm in his harassment cases?

Lol no.

She doesn’t need to “come clean” about Cameron’s crap behavior— she didn’t do anything wrong. Also, after Cameron strips in front of her, she DOES tell Ethan and he has basically no reaction. So maybe she figures that between being mad at Ethan and the fact that he didn’t seem to care before, she figures what is the point of telling him more?

Also, no way Harper and Cameron have a longtime affair. These people barely know each other and we witness several scenes between the two of them alone where Harper clearly does not like him and they have no established history.

Sometimes I wonder if the people posting on this thread are really young or just read recaps of the show or something. This “analysis” is just you guys making up random plots based on nothing.

You’re stuck with us - deal with it!

Then might I gently suggest actually watching the show we’re talking about and basing your comments on what we actually see happening in the show? Perhaps another thread for WL fanfic.

Dude did you see the end of Season 1. The ending was so random. By your logic, if PP had spun that one out you would have called her out for writing fan fiction. But there you go. Anything is possible and on the table for the end of Season 2.

Good point; the ending of Season 1 was insane. My theory about Harper & Cameron isn’t so far fetched. It would make sense that if Harper was the Other Woman, she would be obsessed with calling out Daphne/Cameron’s relationship as “fake.”

Did you notice how angry Harper was after Daphne came back to the beach after the massage and was canoodling with Cameron on the lounge chair? It’s hard to tell where her disdain for their fakeness ends and her rage at not being desired like that begins.

I think Harper and Valentina would make a good match.

She is very sexually frustrated. She needs a good bone and her husband won’t give it to her. Daphne infuriates her because at least she’s sexually fulfilled and her husband can’t keep his hands off of her and is very complimentary and does what she wants.

Have you ever noticed that Cam always initiates with Daphne - she never seems to initiate with him - while Harper always initiates with Ethan (though he doesn't respond the way she wants).

Honestly I don’t see it that way at all. She’s totally on his level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the juice:

Portia does not die. Tanya does not die either. She is blackmailed, but does not die.

Think a more unlikely victim (s) for the death, and a VERY surprising yet totally rational culprit.

Ethan is the victim, the new money: Harper wants the money, but doesn’t want to spend her life with Ethan.

When Cameron feels up Harper’s leg, I was surprised she never told Ethan. She’s a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment claims…her job is to fight against sh#tty behavior by men. Yet she omits this truth from Ethan….why? Especially after her getting upset toward Ethan about the night with the hookers. Why didn’t she come clean about Cameron’s behavior?

I think Cameron and Harper are perhaps having a longtime affair and in cahoots. Perhaps Harper actually represented Cameron’s firm in his harassment cases?

I agree with PP but this makes it all so delicious. Can and Daphne have the dream dynamic but they really really don’t.

Lol no.

She doesn’t need to “come clean” about Cameron’s crap behavior— she didn’t do anything wrong. Also, after Cameron strips in front of her, she DOES tell Ethan and he has basically no reaction. So maybe she figures that between being mad at Ethan and the fact that he didn’t seem to care before, she figures what is the point of telling him more?

Also, no way Harper and Cameron have a longtime affair. These people barely know each other and we witness several scenes between the two of them alone where Harper clearly does not like him and they have no established history.

Sometimes I wonder if the people posting on this thread are really young or just read recaps of the show or something. This “analysis” is just you guys making up random plots based on nothing.

You’re stuck with us - deal with it!

Then might I gently suggest actually watching the show we’re talking about and basing your comments on what we actually see happening in the show? Perhaps another thread for WL fanfic.

Dude did you see the end of Season 1. The ending was so random. By your logic, if PP had spun that one out you would have called her out for writing fan fiction. But there you go. Anything is possible and on the table for the end of Season 2.

Good point; the ending of Season 1 was insane. My theory about Harper & Cameron isn’t so far fetched. It would make sense that if Harper was the Other Woman, she would be obsessed with calling out Daphne/Cameron’s relationship as “fake.”

Did you notice how angry Harper was after Daphne came back to the beach after the massage and was canoodling with Cameron on the lounge chair? It’s hard to tell where her disdain for their fakeness ends and her rage at not being desired like that begins.

I think Harper and Valentina would make a good match.

She is very sexually frustrated. She needs a good bone and her husband won’t give it to her. Daphne infuriates her because at least she’s sexually fulfilled and her husband can’t keep his hands off of her and is very complimentary and does what she wants.

Have you ever noticed that Cam always initiates with Daphne - she never seems to initiate with him - while Harper always initiates with Ethan (though he doesn't respond the way she wants).

Honestly I don’t see it that way at all. She’s totally on his level.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why my post didn’t work but was saying Cam comes onto Daphne and she’s delighted, and they’ve got the dream dynamic but they really really don’t. So then what is really the dream dynamic and is it even possible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my post didn’t work but was saying Cam comes onto Daphne and she’s delighted, and they’ve got the dream dynamic but they really really don’t. So then what is really the dream dynamic and is it even possible?

There is no dream dynamic. Other people suck. The show seem to be saying that you can compartmentalize/ignore the things that are negative about your spouse and continue to live a happy life.

My favorite scene from the last episode was when both couples were on the beach. Ethan was stewing and just glaring at Cameron & Daphne, who were acting like lovey teenagers and joking around. You could see the wheels turning in his head - “Why am I in trouble with my wife when I did nothing wrong, while this prick who banged a prostitute gets lavished with romantic attention from his wife? IT’S NOT FAIR.”

I hate how everyone is maintaining lies / unspoken truths on behalf of Cameron. No one seems to want to disrupt his Apple cart and clear the air. Instead, everyone tiptoes around the truth of Cameron’s shitty behavior. Maybe that’s real power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why my post didn’t work but was saying Cam comes onto Daphne and she’s delighted, and they’ve got the dream dynamic but they really really don’t. So then what is really the dream dynamic and is it even possible?

There is no dream dynamic. Other people suck. The show seem to be saying that you can compartmentalize/ignore the things that are negative about your spouse and continue to live a happy life.

My favorite scene from the last episode was when both couples were on the beach. Ethan was stewing and just glaring at Cameron & Daphne, who were acting like lovey teenagers and joking around. You could see the wheels turning in his head - “Why am I in trouble with my wife when I did nothing wrong, while this prick who banged a prostitute gets lavished with romantic attention from his wife? IT’S NOT FAIR.”

I hate how everyone is maintaining lies / unspoken truths on behalf of Cameron. No one seems to want to disrupt his Apple cart and clear the air. Instead, everyone tiptoes around the truth of Cameron’s shitty behavior. Maybe that’s real power.

Harper and Ethan are both angry and miserable. Cam and Daphne have a great love between them even though he’s flawed. They enjoy life.