Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:The jury room after the trial will be a mess. I wish I could be an observer for part of it. JD loses if even ONE juror believes AH. I think the fur will fly in arguments between the sides and unfortunately JD will lose this case. My prediction.

JD SHOULD lose. He is suing for defamation. She has video of him acting abusively. I feel like her behavior is relevant in the court of public opinion but now THIS court, where he needs to prove she could not see herself as a victim, something that is virtually impossible to me.

He slammed cabinets, while trying to not engage in discussion with her. You've never slammed a cabinet? Or wanted to take a break from fighting during an argument?

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The sister was too likeable and credible so JD's team ended her cross after like three minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but think they should’ve just stayed out of the public eye. He may have lost Pirates but could’ve focused on indie flicks and built up his reputation through his charm and quality movies. Now they’re both just trashy and I wouldn’t hire either of them.

+1. Having his drug use and violence when he’s under the influence entered into the public record is only going to make it even harder to insure him. It would take some serious dig to get him out of the even deeper hole he’s put himself into with this trial.

And frankly, his decision to air his own dirty laundry like this, not just by filing the defamation action and letting it go to trial, but further insisting on having cameras present in the courtroom, raises serious questions about his judgment.

IMO ot makes it clear that this case is continued abuse on his part. They were over. He's the one dragging it out. And look, it's working, he's enlisted the internet into his abuse of her.

This trial doesn't help his rep and I'll be shocked if he gets any money. But it's very calculated to hurt her.

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Taking a step back from all this, I don’t understand how what’s being discussed here means Heard defamed Depp in her 2018 op-Ed. The closest she came to saying anything about him was her statement that “two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath for women who speak out…. I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse.” Whether you believe the allegations from their divorce and the media circus around it, Heard did become a public figure representing domestic abuse at the time, and here were accusations of abuse against him. So the statements themselves in the 2018 op-Ed were true, even if people have doubts about her credibility in 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh come on. It's clear that Depp is a much more serious drug user than Heard. You guys are equating apples and oranges because in your head he has to be an okay guy.

Look at the way he talked about her. Look at the way he tried to control her. Did you hear how he behaved about her doing sex scenes? Seeing a sex scene of her in a movie where it was actually a body double and going completely nuts? wtf?

But somehow you look at that as all right and she is the villain?

She could have gotten $32 million in the divorce settlement and she took just $7 and pledged it to charity, and you guys are still mad because she has only herself paid about $1M of that so far? Even though it's a greater tax write off if she pays it over time, and now she herself is getting sued for $50 mil?

Oh but he played a funny pirate in a movie series though. And he's funny and sort of handsome. And she is not an angel, so your sympathies are with him. You guys are the worst.

Women like you are the worst. I think it's been pretty unanimous here that based on the evidence (facts) both were abusers to each other. People like you, that side with the female because she's a female, do nothing for the female right's movement and protecting victims of domestic violence. She doesn't get a free pass because she's a woman.

wow. Her slapping him a few times is not the same thing as him raping her with a bottle, or doing a crevice search for his cocaine because he was jonesing for a hit, or destroying property around her in a wake of violence.

Moreover, her op ed doesn't claim anywhere that she never slapped him. She doesn't need to prove that she never slapped him. He sued her for defamation, which means he needs to prove that she lied about being abused. So he needs to prove he didn't abuse her, and I don't think he's doing that. He seems to have been very abusive, JMHO.

You’re switching gears to discuss the merits of JD’s lawsuit.

AH did not just slap him a few times. There is an incredible amount of tangible evidence that she did more than that. She has also been proven to lie under oath, so her credibility is in question. The relationship was mutually abusive, in fact, other than hearsay, AH has not proven the incidents she stated happened. We do know she has lied, so again, her credibility is in question.

JD sucks. AH sucks. AH is not doing women, or domestic abuse victims any favors. Based on the evidence, anyone who claims otherwise is misguided.

Y'all keep grasping at minute details just like Depp's mouse attorney. It does not matter, the minutia does not matter. He filed the defamation case against her. It's over folks. Her sister and friends were deposed and testified they witnessed Amber's abuse, animal abuse, and their own abuse at the hands of Depp.

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Is anyone else watching Emily D. Baker on youtube with the livestream of this trial? I like her personality and how she gives her thoughts on all the testimony and court processes.

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As someone said how the jurors are instructed in what domestic violence means is the key.

It doesn’t mean physical. He threats and throwing etc are enough.

I am absolutely disgusted at this judge for letting him video the trial, not imposing a gag order, and not controlling the harassment by some attorneys.

Is she elected? I think the SNL skit of her in Saturday is spot on. She likes this circus.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone said how the jurors are instructed in what domestic violence means is the key.

It doesn’t mean physical. He threats and throwing etc are enough.

I am absolutely disgusted at this judge for letting him video the trial, not imposing a gag order, and not controlling the harassment by some attorneys.

Is she elected? I think the SNL skit of her in Saturday is spot on. She likes this circus.

Harassment by some attorneys?? AH made allegations, none of which can be verified through police reports, medical reports, doctor visits, even photos of her alleged injuries that are conclusive and obvious. She needs to defend her allegations. Do you think the opposing attorney should be gentle with her because she’s a woman that claimed abuse with no one else to back it up other than her drugged out friends?

Regarding the camera in the court room, I looked at it this way—JD is not trying to say he is a Boy Scout, and he’s acknowledged extensive drug use. He’s not trying to hide the mess that he is. Why was AH trying to block the cameras in the courtroom? Maybe because she comes across as an abuser too.

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I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else watching Emily D. Baker on youtube with the livestream of this trial? I like her personality and how she gives her thoughts on all the testimony and court processes.

Doubtful, since Baker obviously thinks Heard is lying.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone said how the jurors are instructed in what domestic violence means is the key.

It doesn’t mean physical. He threats and throwing etc are enough.

I am absolutely disgusted at this judge for letting him video the trial, not imposing a gag order, and not controlling the harassment by some attorneys.

Is she elected? I think the SNL skit of her in Saturday is spot on. She likes this circus.

Harassment by some attorneys?? AH made allegations, none of which can be verified through police reports, medical reports, doctor visits, even photos of her alleged injuries that are conclusive and obvious. She needs to defend her allegations. Do you think the opposing attorney should be gentle with her because she’s a woman that claimed abuse with no one else to back it up other than her drugged out friends?

Regarding the camera in the court room, I looked at it this way—JD is not trying to say he is a Boy Scout, and he’s acknowledged extensive drug use. He’s not trying to hide the mess that he is. Why was AH trying to block the cameras in the courtroom? Maybe because she comes across as an abuser too.

Thank you for proving my point. Our court system is not for Johnny Depo to misuse and turn into a circus. He wanted it to be about publicly shaming her. There is no other reason to seek publicity like this during the trial (of course unless he wants to improperly influence the jurors)

And this PR campaign by both sides is unprecedented. Are you part of the plants? Hmm.

The judge should have gagged all parties including PR teams. She could do it now. I mean doe official PR statements to
Come out right before a cross and talk about what to expect and how the other side is going to
Lie etc is just behind the pale and shows how far we have fallen. And I am talking both sides.

Can this judge get fired or voted out? Given the subject matter of this trial it was an easy easy call.

How many deserving. Fairfax county taxpayers haven’t been able to have their day in court because of this? Trust me, if not televised, case would be over by now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

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Are you kidding me. AH didn’t want cameras because the subject matter is humiliating. Are you for real?

This a legal case. In front of a jury that isnt watching the press coverage. You don’t get a public trial for revenge and to show she was abuser too. Who are you trying to show? The jurors in the actual legal case will see and hear all the evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I don’t think he’s an angel.

But I do think he lost prior cases because it all seemed to happen at the height of the Me, Too movement and the court of public opinion colored the jury’s reasoning.

I find it interesting that so many people are defending him now. That didn’t happen back then…probably because people felt like they couldn’t risk their own neck/celebrity at that time. The social media posse would have crushed them.

I think it’s obvious she zeroed in on him because he was an easy mark. She went into this marriage with an exit strategy: destroy his image so she could retain Hollywood’s support after the divorce.

Being a drunk who slams cabinets and says crazy stuff isn’t DV. Sorry, but it’s not. She made the world believe he was an abuser. He’s a drunk a-hole, not a wife beater.