MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets take color and race out of this and create the narrative this way:

A high school sends a bunch of high school boys to D.C. While the boys are waiting for their bus, a group of 5 men start yelling nasty things at them. The large group of school boys start to yell back. A grown man with a drum starts to walk toward the school boys and bangs his drum in one of the school boys face. School boy smirks and doesn't move. Man keeps banging his drum. The group of school boys then start mocking the man with the drum.

Pretend this is how you heard it. What would you say?

I find these boys to be awful and they most definitely come across as obnoxious, but this situation is not about those school boys, or Nathan Phillips, or the BHI...it's much, much bigger than this.

The boys were in a circle and the man walked in the middle of the group of kids, then started banging a drum right in the face of one kid. He didn't say anything to the kid, just stood inches from his face.


The man is wrong.

He should not have walked into the middle of a group of strange kids.

He should not have stood in the face of a kid he did not know.

He should have used his words, and said something to calm the situation, especially as multiple kids repeated things along the lines of "Does anyone know what is going on?"

Phillips handled things poorly. He is the adult. He should have known better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets take color and race out of this and create the narrative this way:

A high school sends a bunch of high school boys to D.C. While the boys are waiting for their bus, a group of 5 men start yelling nasty things at them. The large group of school boys start to yell back. A grown man with a drum starts to walk toward the school boys and bangs his drum in one of the school boys face. School boy smirks and doesn't move. Man keeps banging his drum. The group of school boys then start mocking the man with the drum.

Pretend this is how you heard it. What would you say?

I find these boys to be awful and they most definitely come across as obnoxious, but this situation is not about those school boys, or Nathan Phillips, or the BHI...it's much, much bigger than this.

Really? Honestly, stuff like this happens all the time. Who the F cares? If this non-event bothers you, then you need to get a life. Everyone should have just laughed it off and went about their day.

[Anonymous]

Savannah Guthrie's question to Nick Sandmann, suggesting that perhaps the adult black BHI men were actually afraid of the lily white Kentucky boys, was quite amusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets take color and race out of this and create the narrative this way:

A high school sends a bunch of high school boys to D.C. While the boys are waiting for their bus, a group of 5 men start yelling nasty things at them. The large group of school boys start to yell back. A grown man with a drum starts to walk toward the school boys and bangs his drum in one of the school boys face. School boy smirks and doesn't move. Man keeps banging his drum. The group of school boys then start mocking the man with the drum.

Pretend this is how you heard it. What would you say?

I find these boys to be awful and they most definitely come across as obnoxious, but this situation is not about those school boys, or Nathan Phillips, or the BHI...it's much, much bigger than this.

There is nothing peaceful about standing inches from a stranger's face while beating a drum.

[Anonymous]

You people that are still intent on attacking the students despite the objective evidence that they did nothing wrong and that Philips flat out lied are either utter imbeciles or hopelessly partisan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savannah Guthrie's question to Nick Sandmann, suggesting that perhaps the adult black BHI men were actually afraid of the lily white Kentucky boys, was quite amusing.

I didn't watch it as I find Guthrie to be a horrendous interviewer.
Is there a transcript somewhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people that are still intent on attacking the students despite the objective evidence that they did nothing wrong and that Philips flat out lied are either utter imbeciles or hopelessly partisan.

...or, both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savannah Guthrie's question to Nick Sandmann, suggesting that perhaps the adult black BHI men were actually afraid of the lily white Kentucky boys, was quite amusing.

I didn't watch it as I find Guthrie to be a horrendous interviewer.
Is there a transcript somewhere?

https://www.today.com/news/nick-sandmann-interview-today-show-s-savannah-guthrie-encounter-native-t147242

And the comments NBC and the Today Show are getting with people saying they'll never watch the show again because they had the audacity to allow this boy to tell his side of the story. Ridiculous. It makes me laugh to see a whole lotta white people using "white kid" as a derogatory term. They should know POC get a big kick out of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing Phillips referred to as "an elder." Can someone please explain to me what exactly this means?
Is he an "elder" just because of his age?
Is an "elder" someone with specific status (like an official leader?) And if yes, how is that achieved (election? Inherited?)

Better that than the ugly epithet someone on this board bestowed on him, revealing their true colors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Watch the entire video that is all I am asking but you won’t because you will never change your mind. I too thought the boys were complete jerks when I saw the original post and then yesterday, saw the real story. If this kid was your child you would feel differently but oh that’s right you are small minded will see only one side. And nope not married to a Brett. In fact, grew up in a blue collar household and worked my ass off every step of the way. Again you placed me and everyone else who thinks differently than you, in the ”privledged” catagory. Sad. Very sad

I did watch the video, including the one of the woman who was right there saying “you guys are acting like a mob.” So, I just think you’re wrong.

For starters, you don’t engage with the black Israelites. They’re annoying and crazy and you just walk away. But fine, these aren’t city kids, they think it’s funny, and they engaged. When an adult came along to diffuse things - what their chaperone should’ve done, quite frankly - the kid “stood his ground.” He and his friends were doing that Indian chop or whatever white peoples do when they think of Indians (you can see him in the back at first doing it). Now he’s casting it as, “This Indian was trying to get in my space and I had every right to just stand there like the innocent little white boy I am.”

If you have actually watched the videos and think their behavior was ok, that’s on you.

As a result of this incident, these kids have been getting death threats.
Don't you think the reaction to this incident is overblown? Don't you believe that this whole controversy around a kid smiling at a Native American is out of proportion?
We've had protesters physically attack others and the reaction has been... Meh. Yet, this incident has adults calling for cruel acts being done to these kids.
Do you not find that at all repulsive?

Are you admitting then that what they did deserves A reaction of some sort and now we’re just arguing over what that reaction should be?

What I want is for people to stop minimizing and excusing his behavior by saying he was just “smiling” at a Native American man. Can you see the space between that and death threats or are you just here to pretend everyone’s coming for the white man now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savannah Guthrie's question to Nick Sandmann, suggesting that perhaps the adult black BHI men were actually afraid of the lily white Kentucky boys, was quite amusing.

As a mother, I was mortified for that poor child. He was prey. He played possum. Media, social media, their cult following and his school and Diocese would have skinned him alive if the other videos didn't come out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Watch the entire video that is all I am asking but you won’t because you will never change your mind. I too thought the boys were complete jerks when I saw the original post and then yesterday, saw the real story. If this kid was your child you would feel differently but oh that’s right you are small minded will see only one side. And nope not married to a Brett. In fact, grew up in a blue collar household and worked my ass off every step of the way. Again you placed me and everyone else who thinks differently than you, in the ”privledged” catagory. Sad. Very sad

I did watch the video, including the one of the woman who was right there saying “you guys are acting like a mob.” So, I just think you’re wrong.

For starters, you don’t engage with the black Israelites. They’re annoying and crazy and you just walk away. But fine, these aren’t city kids, they think it’s funny, and they engaged. When an adult came along to diffuse things - what their chaperone should’ve done, quite frankly - the kid “stood his ground.” He and his friends were doing that Indian chop or whatever white peoples do when they think of Indians (you can see him in the back at first doing it). Now he’s casting it as, “This Indian was trying to get in my space and I had every right to just stand there like the innocent little white boy I am.”

If you have actually watched the videos and think their behavior was ok, that’s on you.

As a result of this incident, these kids have been getting death threats.
Don't you think the reaction to this incident is overblown? Don't you believe that this whole controversy around a kid smiling at a Native American is out of proportion?
We've had protesters physically attack others and the reaction has been... Meh. Yet, this incident has adults calling for cruel acts being done to these kids.
Do you not find that at all repulsive?

Are you admitting then that what they did deserves A reaction of some sort and now we’re just arguing over what that reaction should be?

What I want is for people to stop minimizing and excusing his behavior by saying he was just “smiling” at a Native American man. Can you see the space between that and death threats or are you just here to pretend everyone’s coming for the white man now?

LOL. So, you seem ok with a bunch of teens getting death threats for what you folks call a "smirk." And, as far as seeing "the space" .... the reality is these kids are getting threats.
And, the reaction I think these kids should get is one of outrage that they are being used as pawns for the left to advance their agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Watch the entire video that is all I am asking but you won’t because you will never change your mind. I too thought the boys were complete jerks when I saw the original post and then yesterday, saw the real story. If this kid was your child you would feel differently but oh that’s right you are small minded will see only one side. And nope not married to a Brett. In fact, grew up in a blue collar household and worked my ass off every step of the way. Again you placed me and everyone else who thinks differently than you, in the ”privledged” catagory. Sad. Very sad

I did watch the video, including the one of the woman who was right there saying “you guys are acting like a mob.” So, I just think you’re wrong.

For starters, you don’t engage with the black Israelites. They’re annoying and crazy and you just walk away. But fine, these aren’t city kids, they think it’s funny, and they engaged. When an adult came along to diffuse things - what their chaperone should’ve done, quite frankly - the kid “stood his ground.” He and his friends were doing that Indian chop or whatever white peoples do when they think of Indians (you can see him in the back at first doing it). Now he’s casting it as, “This Indian was trying to get in my space and I had every right to just stand there like the innocent little white boy I am.”

If you have actually watched the videos and think their behavior was ok, that’s on you.

As a result of this incident, these kids have been getting death threats.
Don't you think the reaction to this incident is overblown? Don't you believe that this whole controversy around a kid smiling at a Native American is out of proportion?
We've had protesters physically attack others and the reaction has been... Meh. Yet, this incident has adults calling for cruel acts being done to these kids.
Do you not find that at all repulsive?

Are you admitting then that what they did deserves A reaction of some sort and now we’re just arguing over what that reaction should be?

What I want is for people to stop minimizing and excusing his behavior by saying he was just “smiling” at a Native American man. Can you see the space between that and death threats or are you just here to pretend everyone’s coming for the white man now?

LOL. So, you seem ok with a bunch of teens getting death threats for what you folks call a "smirk." And, as far as seeing "the space" .... the reality is these kids are getting threats.
And, the reaction I think these kids should get is one of outrage that they are being used as pawns for the left to advance their agenda.

Agree! Leftists don't seem able to think rationally. The LEAST culpable were the white adolescents. All the boy did was give a slight smirk. Look at what the Native American did, and look at what the hateful BHIs said! They were much worse, and instigated the whole thing, and we still have lefties saying "I want people to focus their blame on the white male Christians."

I think that boy should be commended for remaining calm in the face of such antagonism and hostility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Watch the entire video that is all I am asking but you won’t because you will never change your mind. I too thought the boys were complete jerks when I saw the original post and then yesterday, saw the real story. If this kid was your child you would feel differently but oh that’s right you are small minded will see only one side. And nope not married to a Brett. In fact, grew up in a blue collar household and worked my ass off every step of the way. Again you placed me and everyone else who thinks differently than you, in the ”privledged” catagory. Sad. Very sad

I did watch the video, including the one of the woman who was right there saying “you guys are acting like a mob.” So, I just think you’re wrong.

For starters, you don’t engage with the black Israelites. They’re annoying and crazy and you just walk away. But fine, these aren’t city kids, they think it’s funny, and they engaged. When an adult came along to diffuse things - what their chaperone should’ve done, quite frankly - the kid “stood his ground.” He and his friends were doing that Indian chop or whatever white peoples do when they think of Indians (you can see him in the back at first doing it). Now he’s casting it as, “This Indian was trying to get in my space and I had every right to just stand there like the innocent little white boy I am.”

If you have actually watched the videos and think their behavior was ok, that’s on you.

As a result of this incident, these kids have been getting death threats.
Don't you think the reaction to this incident is overblown? Don't you believe that this whole controversy around a kid smiling at a Native American is out of proportion?
We've had protesters physically attack others and the reaction has been... Meh. Yet, this incident has adults calling for cruel acts being done to these kids.
Do you not find that at all repulsive?

Are you admitting then that what they did deserves A reaction of some sort and now we’re just arguing over what that reaction should be?

What I want is for people to stop minimizing and excusing his behavior by saying he was just “smiling” at a Native American man. Can you see the space between that and death threats or are you just here to pretend everyone’s coming for the white man now?

The main boy did nothing wrong. He didn’t say anything, he didn’t do anything provocative, all he did “wrong” was wear a MAGA hat and commit a “facecrime.” Even the other boys were ok. There may have been a couple who did the tomahawk thing but even that is debatable. They were just jumping around being loud and chanting stuff that so far no one has documented to be offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets take color and race out of this and create the narrative this way:

A high school sends a bunch of high school boys to D.C. While the boys are waiting for their bus, a group of 5 men start yelling nasty things at them. The large group of school boys start to yell back. A grown man with a drum starts to walk toward the school boys and bangs his drum in one of the school boys face. School boy smirks and doesn't move. Man keeps banging his drum. The group of school boys then start mocking the man with the drum.

Pretend this is how you heard it. What would you say?

I find these boys to be awful and they most definitely come across as obnoxious, but this situation is not about those school boys, or Nathan Phillips, or the BHI...it's much, much bigger than this.

See, there's your problem.

This country is polarized in part because we continue to have a race problem that too many want to close their eyes to. We have never come to terms with our nation's genocide of Native Americans, brutal enslavement of Africans, and legalized oppression of black citizens up until just 50 years ago.

People who talk about being "colorblind" are usually those who want to look away from systematic discrimination against those who have a different skin color than their own, and deny it even exists, who think that half a century is long enough for blacks and others to pull themselves up by the bootstraps they were long denied.

The fact that there are people alive who experienced life under Jim Crow laws should be enough to realize you can't take race out of the equation in situations like this. The fact that most Americans don't recognize the ongoing plight of Native Americans and think of them as something from the past, or something to turn into a caricature of war whoops and tomahawk chops should be enough to realize we all need to stop and have a national conversation.

I would hope the boys' ethics and religion teachers will start to have that conversation with them in the true Catholic spirit of inner reflection and reconciliation. Maybe ask them under what sort of societal conditions a group like the Black Israelites could arise. Maybe ask for a dialogue with local native American groups. Maybe discuss the Sermon on the Mount. That would be very impressive and I would laud those boys and their teachers for it.