Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Is it typically done through a home break in though? I always thought it typically happened when you were somewhat isolated or driving.

Usually they are done by pulling people off the street.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Also opportunistic home invasions by people affiliated with gangs that break into larger homes that are set back from the road.

There is nothing remarkable about this home. It's like all the others in the neighborhood.

It doesn't have to be remarkable. There have been break ins of very average homes because they knew the people were gone and it was set away from the road with easy entrance and escapes.

This house is not set away from the road. Again, it's like all the others. Are you the one who thinks this is an amazing mansion on a vast estate?

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Anonymous wrote:It's definitely not a woman; you can tell by the way it walks.

I'm going back to my original theory: illegal/ Mexican who is perhaps working for someone. Definitely targeted for being Savannah's mother.

Doesn't appear sturdy enough to be Mexican. Though the backpack tracks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Is it typically done through a home break in though? I always thought it typically happened when you were somewhat isolated or driving.

I think it's done however they see an easy opportunity. So if they knew she was home alone and it was an easy house to break into and escape from based on where it sits, there you go.

So why would he take her with him? It's not like she was going to chase after him on foot being disabled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if they just went to rob the house and thought she wasn’t home and it went wrong.

Very possible. I think the best hope at this point is identifying the person by this video. If they are able to do that, we'll know the rest soon enough.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Also opportunistic home invasions by people affiliated with gangs that break into larger homes that are set back from the road.

There is nothing remarkable about this home. It's like all the others in the neighborhood.

It doesn't have to be remarkable. There have been break ins of very average homes because they knew the people were gone and it was set away from the road with easy entrance and escapes.

This house is not set away from the road. Again, it's like all the others. Are you the one who thinks this is an amazing mansion on a vast estate?

Nobody is saying this is a mansion. They're just saying it's an easy target because of the resident profile and because it is in a place that is not a busy road and is where they can make a getaway without being noticed. That's it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Also opportunistic home invasions by people affiliated with gangs that break into larger homes that are set back from the road.

There is nothing remarkable about this home. It's like all the others in the neighborhood.

The remarkable thing is the daughter has a net worth of 40 million.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Is it typically done through a home break in though? I always thought it typically happened when you were somewhat isolated or driving.

I think it's done however they see an easy opportunity. So if they knew she was home alone and it was an easy house to break into and escape from based on where it sits, there you go.

So why would he take her with him? It's not like she was going to chase after him on foot being disabled.

Kidnap/ransom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Also opportunistic home invasions by people affiliated with gangs that break into larger homes that are set back from the road.

There is nothing remarkable about this home. It's like all the others in the neighborhood.

It doesn't have to be remarkable or huge, it just has to be the right set of circumstances. It just has to be nice enough, not super nice, and an easy target, like if they knew there was only an elderly person there and it was isolated enough they could get away with getting some things out of the house.

+1 An elderly woman walking with a cane is an easy target.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Also opportunistic home invasions by people affiliated with gangs that break into larger homes that are set back from the road.

There is nothing remarkable about this home. It's like all the others in the neighborhood.

The remarkable thing is the daughter has a net worth of 40 million.

And? They didn't leave a ransom note? Waited 2 days? Doesn't really seem like they wanted the money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Is it typically done through a home break in though? I always thought it typically happened when you were somewhat isolated or driving.

I think it's done however they see an easy opportunity. So if they knew she was home alone and it was an easy house to break into and escape from based on where it sits, there you go.

So why would he take her with him? It's not like she was going to chase after him on foot being disabled.

Kidnap/ransom

So leave a note like real kidnappers. Be serious about collecting. Communicate with the family. None of that was done.

[Anonymous]

What is crazy about the nest video is watching the assailant struggle with the camera for a few minutes. It’s like he didn’t anticipate finding it there and didn’t know how to cover it. He turns around and looked for something like shrubbery. Super strange.

Wonder if the person was hired or acted independently.

Praying for them - the whole thing is horrifying.

[Anonymous]

The person is smart enough to construct a well written random note with proper syntax and grammar, meaning English is probably his first language.

Retired FBI expert on CNN said this was nonsense. He claimed that it is routine for hackers to run any demand letters through AI to correct them and make sure they didn't use any words or spellings that point to a particular region. IOW, the person could just have used Grammarly or something similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is either someone foreign who comes from a country where kidnapping and ransom is more common or someone mentally ill enough to think he would get away with this.

Yes, this seems likely. Tucson is like 30 minutes from Mexico where I personally know people who have been kidnapped.

me too. Not Tucson but my mom grew up in a nearby border town. Nowadays the kidnapping victims have ties to cartels but there are still cases where it randomly happens. It's never some complex plan either. Just some lower rank members who think they can pull a fast one.

Is it typically done through a home break in though? I always thought it typically happened when you were somewhat isolated or driving.

I think it's done however they see an easy opportunity. So if they knew she was home alone and it was an easy house to break into and escape from based on where it sits, there you go.

So why would he take her with him? It's not like she was going to chase after him on foot being disabled.

Kidnap/ransom

So leave a note like real kidnappers. Be serious about collecting. Communicate with the family. None of that was done.

Yeah, that's what's puzzling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is crazy about the nest video is watching the assailant struggle with the camera for a few minutes. It’s like he didn’t anticipate finding it there and didn’t know how to cover it. He turns around and looked for something like shrubbery. Super strange.

Wonder if the person was hired or acted independently.

Praying for them - the whole thing is horrifying.

That's what makes it seem unlikely it was someone who had been to that house before.