“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

But allowing for carve outs defeats the whole purpose of “life begins at conception” doesn’t it? Either it’s a life or it isn’t. Doesn’t matter how it starts (rape, incest, etc).

Look. If that is your belief, don't ever get an abortion. Don't force your belief on me. Leave these decisions to the women making them.

Respectfully that’s not really a persuasive argument.

Don't force you anti abortion views on me is not persuasive? Why do you need to do it? I might believe the world is over populated and no more children should be born at all. Or I should only have one child. Do I force that on you?

Yep. In general I’m pro-femicide. These women deserve to die, unless they have a white son to adopt.


That’s why I don’t like the opinion to be honest - it’s very hard to see eye to eye on this issue.

If I value the fetus as a life or potential life, your libertarian argument fades away. I understand you don’t see it that way. The whole issue is like a dog chasing it’s tail- anyway I don’t mean to make light of it with that metaphor.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

I did see the protesters storming the court and beating people with flagpoles and fire extinguishers.

Did not see*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

I did see the protesters storming the court and beating people with flagpoles and fire extinguishers.

If this is true, the difference is, I condemn it. And they should be arrested. You are making deflections rather than holding your party accountable.

Not PP but not sure what I’m supposed to be “holding my party accountable for.” No one has answered my question as to specifically what crime the leaker committed? A LOT of leading Republicans have said they don’t think that any people did anything wrong on January 6, that the officers let them all in, that it was “legitimate political discourse,” that no one died, that all the perpetrators are wrongly imprisoned, blah blah blah.

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Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

Democrats want the focus to stay on the opinion and not the leak because the opinion is devastating for Republicans. Republicans are trying to get everyone to focus on the leak rather than the opinion for exactly the same reason. I doubt Schiff knows who leaked it or even which side of the Court it came from, and there’s no political value for him in speculating. The substance of the decision is the better focus even if it came from one of Alito or Thomas’s clerks.

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Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

Democrats want the focus to stay on the opinion and not the leak because the opinion is devastating for Republicans. Republicans are trying to get everyone to focus on the leak rather than the opinion for exactly the same reason. I doubt Schiff knows who leaked it or even which side of the Court it came from, and there’s no political value for him in speculating. The substance of the decision is the better focus even if it came from one of Alito or Thomas’s clerks.

Great points here, and more reasons why a leak from the left makes no sense.

Also, the entire GOP is about to get exactly what they’ve wanted and have been working and praying for for fifty years. Why are they yammering about the leak instead of shouting their success from the rooftops?

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Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

Democrats want the focus to stay on the opinion and not the leak because the opinion is devastating for Republicans. Republicans are trying to get everyone to focus on the leak rather than the opinion for exactly the same reason. I doubt Schiff knows who leaked it or even which side of the Court it came from, and there’s no political value for him in speculating. The substance of the decision is the better focus even if it came from one of Alito or Thomas’s clerks.

Great points here, and more reasons why a leak from the left makes no sense.

Also, the entire GOP is about to get exactly what they’ve wanted and have been working and praying for for fifty years. Why are they yammering about the leak instead of shouting their success from the rooftops?

Cause the dog finally caught the car.

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Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

Democrats want the focus to stay on the opinion and not the leak because the opinion is devastating for Republicans. Republicans are trying to get everyone to focus on the leak rather than the opinion for exactly the same reason. I doubt Schiff knows who leaked it or even which side of the Court it came from, and there’s no political value for him in speculating. The substance of the decision is the better focus even if it came from one of Alito or Thomas’s clerks.

Great points here, and more reasons why a leak from the left makes no sense.

Also, the entire GOP is about to get exactly what they’ve wanted and have been working and praying for for fifty years. Why are they yammering about the leak instead of shouting their success from the rooftops?

Ooooof, this is a great point. They got a rare societal level “victory”. Where are the parades and honking cars to “celebrate”? It seems like they don’t want to take responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

Working the refs! Nice, right winger! Actually the first night this broke, the NYT didn’t bother with this travesty of a decision; they were all in on the leak, just as you’d suspect from a right wing outlet like NYT.

No one cares about the leak in the face of the fascist GOP telling women they can go get fcked, we have no rights. (For my money, it was absolutely a right winger leaking. If you want to talk about a group of people who want to destroy America and its laws and norms, look no further than the GOP).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are those posters who say abortion won't be outlawed and will just be banned in some states after 15 weeks? Louisiana Republicans would like a word with you.

And now the people have the power to vote the legislature out of office.

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Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

The nyt will cover who the leaker is when that is discovered. I will post the link here.

Don’t kid yourself. Politico knows how the leaker is.

[Anonymous]

It is scary when the courts limit rights as a human

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

I did see the protesters storming the court and beating people with flagpoles and fire extinguishers.

If this is true, the difference is, I condemn it. And they should be arrested. You are making deflections rather than holding your party accountable.

Not PP but not sure what I’m supposed to be “holding my party accountable for.” No one has answered my question as to specifically what crime the leaker committed? A LOT of leading Republicans have said they don’t think that any people did anything wrong on January 6, that the officers let them all in, that it was “legitimate political discourse,” that no one died, that all the perpetrators are wrongly imprisoned, blah blah blah.

I'm responding to a poster who has corrected a post. So we are talking past each other. You and I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

The "mob" are a majority of Americans who feel that a law that has been on the books and held as constitutional in previous challenges by justices who didn't like abortion.

The angry protests are because a right has been taken away by a high court that has been acting pretty shady these days.

+1 Should the people expect to have their will reflected by those they elect?

Prime example: "Kavanaugh, though, has a distinct honor: He will be the first justice nominated by someone who lost the popular vote to earn his seat on the bench with support from senators representing less than half of the country while having his nomination opposed by a majority of the country."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/06/senators-representing-less-than-half-us-are-about-confirm-nominee-opposed-by-most-americans/

This is why the court is a joke at best, dangerous at worst.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those posters who say abortion won't be outlawed and will just be banned in some states after 15 weeks? Louisiana Republicans would like a word with you.

And now the people have the power to vote the legislature out of office.

Not in heavily gerrymandered districts. Not in districts that attempt to disenfranchise their voters.