“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

But allowing for carve outs defeats the whole purpose of “life begins at conception” doesn’t it? Either it’s a life or it isn’t. Doesn’t matter how it starts (rape, incest, etc).

Look. If that is your belief, don't ever get an abortion. Don't force your belief on me. Leave these decisions to the women making them.

Respectfully that’s not really a persuasive argument.

Neither is but religion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It disturbs me that the severe pain of childbirth is left entirely out of the abortion debate. Forcing someone to go through that experience, ignoring all other aspects of forced pregnancy and parenthood, is literal torture. It is traumatizing for many women who voluntarily give birth to healthy babies with a smooth delivery. It’s an immense amount of suffering.

Just wanted to point out that the handmaiden on the court, the middle finger to intelligent women everywhere, said pregnancy and childbirth are no big deal.

I completely agree with you. No one should have to undertake that unless they want it.

unfortunately, she is the only person on the court who has given birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it is not a person, why regulate it at all. What other medical procedures are denied by states?

Medical procedures are heavily regulated by states. In many cases they are effectively banned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

But allowing for carve outs defeats the whole purpose of “life begins at conception” doesn’t it? Either it’s a life or it isn’t. Doesn’t matter how it starts (rape, incest, etc).

Look. If that is your belief, don't ever get an abortion. Don't force your belief on me. Leave these decisions to the women making them.

Respectfully that’s not really a persuasive argument.

Neither is but religion

Generally I agree

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

The "mob" are a majority of Americans who feel that a law that has been on the books and held as constitutional in previous challenges by justices who didn't like abortion.

The angry protests are because a right has been taken away by a high court that has been acting pretty shady these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

But allowing for carve outs defeats the whole purpose of “life begins at conception” doesn’t it? Either it’s a life or it isn’t. Doesn’t matter how it starts (rape, incest, etc).

Look. If that is your belief, don't ever get an abortion. Don't force your belief on me. Leave these decisions to the women making them.

Respectfully that’s not really a persuasive argument.

Don't force you anti abortion views on me is not persuasive? Why do you need to do it? I might believe the world is over populated and no more children should be born at all. Or I should only have one child. Do I force that on you?

[Anonymous]

No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

But allowing for carve outs defeats the whole purpose of “life begins at conception” doesn’t it? Either it’s a life or it isn’t. Doesn’t matter how it starts (rape, incest, etc).

Look. If that is your belief, don't ever get an abortion. Don't force your belief on me. Leave these decisions to the women making them.

Respectfully that’s not really a persuasive argument.

Don't force you anti abortion views on me is not persuasive? Why do you need to do it? I might believe the world is over populated and no more children should be born at all. Or I should only have one child. Do I force that on you?

That’s why I don’t like the opinion to be honest - it’s very hard to see eye to eye on this issue.

If I value the fetus as a life or potential life, your libertarian argument fades away. I understand you don’t see it that way. The whole issue is like a dog chasing it’s tail- anyway I don’t mean to make light of it with that metaphor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No leaker found yet and Schiff and others stating ‘they don’t care how the draft leaked’. Very telling. If this was a conservative aide that leaked, it would be all over the NYT by now

The nyt will cover who the leaker is when that is discovered. I will post the link here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

I am a conservative as well.
I hope it stands. This is not a decision for SCOTUS and never has been. This is an issue that should be legislated.

I have heard many ask why 9 unelected people get to make decisions like this. Well, that is exactly what happened when Roe was decided. This court seems to be seeing the danger in the court making these decisions. Leave it to the legislature.

Why have 9 unelected people make decisions for Americans at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

I am a conservative as well.
I hope it stands. This is not a decision for SCOTUS and never has been. This is an issue that should be legislated.

I have heard many ask why 9 unelected people get to make decisions like this. Well, that is exactly what happened when Roe was decided. This court seems to be seeing the danger in the court making these decisions. Leave it to the legislature.

Why have 9 unelected people make decisions for Americans at all?

I think if you want to reject our constitutional structure, you don’t get to play in constitutional debates. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

I did see the protesters storming the court and beating people with flagpoles and fire extinguishers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am conservative; I don’t believe in abortion; I would have no issue living in a state that banned or severely restricted abortion (though I would certainly support carve outs).

That being said, I hope this opinion is amended. I am tired of the culture wars. I value the American center and I feel that both “sides” would be well advised to resist stomping on hot button issues in this period of time that feels perilously fractious.

My bodily autonomy is not a hot button issue like the Border Wall. This is not a both sides issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

+1

Shine some sunlight on that whole racket.

Of course you think this. You are liberals. You believe that the decisions of the Supreme Court should be impacted by the mob. You think that the angry protests should make a difference in how the court decides cases.

Party of January 6 says what?

I did see the protesters storming the court and beating people with flagpoles and fire extinguishers.

If this is true, the difference is, I condemn it. And they should be arrested. You are making deflections rather than holding your party accountable.