Covid vaccine and menstruation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not trying to scare anyone, and I'm not an anti-vaxxer. My family and I are up-to-date on all of our shots. My husband and I even got the pfizer covid vaccine. Why can't people talk about real, rational concerns about the vaccine without being ostracized? I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone. Also, how could you possibly know there's zero change in miscarriage rates?

Because people have lost all ability to have reasonable discussions. People want so badly for this vaccine to work and be the answer, that hearing anything at all that might not fit that narrative is just too challenging. I’m not anti vaccine at all - all of us vaccinated (except I haven’t gotten covid vaccine yet) - but being open minded to hear all the information and people’s personal anecdotes account for something for sure. These are indeed people, who chose to get the vaccine, we should at least hear them and their issues that have come up post vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pregnant women are being vaccinated now. If this caused problems with the placenta, we would be hearing about it now. I haven't, have you?
And I'm not discounting the menstrual cycle effects. I've had 2 Pfizer shots, and my cycles have been a little off. But to claim effects on the placenta without actual evidence is a bit too far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pregnant women are being vaccinated now. If this caused problems with the placenta, we would be hearing about it now. I haven't, have you?
And I'm not discounting the menstrual cycle effects. I've had 2 Pfizer shots, and my cycles have been a little off. But to claim effects on the placenta without actual evidence is a bit too far.

I'm not "claiming" anything. I'm saying there's a reasonable doubt, and I'm not going to risk my daughter's fertility until this trial period is over and we have more data. Just going by the anecdotes on this thread and the voluminous anecdotes in VAERS, I believe my hesitancy is justified and rational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

He also claimed that COVID would fizzle out last year and that we wouldn't see a second wave.

There is no link between blood clots and infertility at this point. Just wild speculation that one side effect must mean there are others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

He also claimed that COVID would fizzle out last year and that we wouldn't see a second wave.

There is no link between blood clots and infertility at this point. Just wild speculation that one side effect must mean there are others.

“Wild speculation”? If this were a normal vaccine rollout, these possibilities would be thoroughly researched before vaccines went in arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pregnant women are being vaccinated now. If this caused problems with the placenta, we would be hearing about it now. I haven't, have you?
And I'm not discounting the menstrual cycle effects. I've had 2 Pfizer shots, and my cycles have been a little off. But to claim effects on the placenta without actual evidence is a bit too far.

I'm not "claiming" anything. I'm saying there's a reasonable doubt, and I'm not going to risk my daughter's fertility until this trial period is over and we have more data. Just going by the anecdotes on this thread and the voluminous anecdotes in VAERS, I believe my hesitancy is justified and rational.

You aren't, but you are citing someone who is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pregnant women are being vaccinated now. If this caused problems with the placenta, we would be hearing about it now. I haven't, have you?
And I'm not discounting the menstrual cycle effects. I've had 2 Pfizer shots, and my cycles have been a little off. But to claim effects on the placenta without actual evidence is a bit too far.

I'm not "claiming" anything. I'm saying there's a reasonable doubt, and I'm not going to risk my daughter's fertility until this trial period is over and we have more data. Just going by the anecdotes on this thread and the voluminous anecdotes in VAERS, I believe my hesitancy is justified and rational.

You are justified by just being a concerned parent and gathering data (what’s available) to make an informed decision. Don’t let anyone make you second guess that

[Anonymous]

He also claimed that COVID would fizzle out last year and that we wouldn't see a second wave.

There is no link between blood clots and infertility at this point. Just wild speculation that one side effect must mean there are others.

You're not listening to me. I never said he said there's such a link. You were trying to discredit him, and I was just showing that he has expertise in this area despite what you say was his title at pfizer. As for his concerns about placenta formation, he made a rational case that remains to be seen over time. My daughter can wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, he was able to explain in great detail why and how the vaccine would cause anaphylaxis and blood clotting in certain people, both of which have since been confirmed and resulted in deaths; and he seems to understand the mechanism that could result in the inability to form a placenta, so I can't discount what he's saying just because snopes tells me to. Would you entrust your daughter's fertility to snopes? Who is even behind snopes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal
petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

Antivaxer rubbish.

Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

He also claimed that COVID would fizzle out last year and that we wouldn't see a second wave.

There is no link between blood clots and infertility at this point. Just wild speculation that one side effect must mean there are others.

“Wild speculation”? If this were a normal vaccine rollout, these possibilities would be thoroughly researched before vaccines went in arms.

DP. This is inaccurate and shows that you don't understand how vaccines are tested and rolled out or how the mRNA vaccines were tested and rolled out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Michael Yeadon (scientist and former Pfizer VP), along with a coalition of other scientists, filed legal petitions with the FDA and EMA (European equivalent) in December urging them not to approve the vaccines until further research was done w/r/t several issues. One of the issues was how the vaccine mechanism would adversely affect a woman's ability to form and maintain a placenta. He went into detail regarding the scientific basis for his concern. While I'm not a scientist, it seemed like sound reasoning to me, but obviously his warning was not heeded by either agency. He also warned about the anaphylaxis and blood clotting issues, so it seems like he knows enough to be taken seriously at least.
Hearing all of the accounts on this thread makes me think of Dr. Yeadon's concerns because menstruation is essentially the shedding of the uterine lining (a potential placenta). It would be interesting to find out the difference between the rate of miscarriages pre-Dec2020 vs post-Dec2020.

I'm 26 and received both doses in Jan/ Feb. I got pregnant in late Feb, but miscarried last week. I know miscarriages are common normally, so it's not necessarily related, but I'd be interested to see a study like this as well.

[Anonymous]

Zero chance I would get vaccine if I was childbearing age and not giving it to my daughter. I'm shocked people are giving their children this with zero research except 2000 kids. How did we get here??

[Anonymous]

I mean zero trials on kids except 2200. People have lost their grip on reality.

[Anonymous]

I got J&J this past Friday, and started my period yesterday on day 26. My cycles can run every 26-29 days, I’m 46. It’s been challenging to be steady and know I’m in all likelihood just fine and that I made the best decision available to me to get the vaccine available to me.