ECNL rising, GA falling . . . Where will the 06 and younger D1-thinking girls go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

Showcasing opportunities have, and I suspect will continue to be better for higher performing teams because there is a natural draw effect that goes on when two competitive teams face off. Nationals has been the only showcase that was limited in the past, but ECNL has added the open cup layer to nationals, so that every team can attend now.

I think you're right about the showcasing format affecting the value at some point. To a college scout, the value of the showcase is alot of high level players at one event, but there are practical limits to how many games you can squeeze into a weekend. Most of these venues are fully consumed already by the national events.

If COVID has taught us one thing it's that they need to add events and regionalize them. There really is very little need for "national" showcases because most players tend to target schools in their region anyway, and ECNL is aware of the effect of rising travel costs. I could see them adding a handful of events and expanding on the open cup concept and allowing in the higher performing RL teams. YMMV on whether that is a good or bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

Along with all the ECNL teams in the conference. BRYC improvement will simply be relative. The rich get richer. BRYC will attract more players but they will be the castoffs from other ECNL clubs. While they may improve upon GA they will remain steady on their own treadmill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

So it is better to be on a bad ECNL team or a good GA team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

So it is better to be on a bad ECNL team or a good GA team?

Depends; are you making it a bad ECNL team? (Girl) Players will ALWAYS migrate to ECNL; there was just less movement this year because DA became GAL during COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

So it is better to be on a bad ECNL team or a good GA team?

Depends; are you making it a bad ECNL team? (Girl) Players will ALWAYS migrate to ECNL; there was just less movement this year because DA became GAL during COVID.

Do you know how some of the bad ECNL teams did recently in friendlies against good GA teams?

We are talking about unbeaten GA teams versus last place ECNL teams with zero to little wins.

It wasn’t impressive.

Do FCV and Arlington have talented players and teams? Absolutely. However, beating the brakes off of everyone week in and out is not helpful to them.

15-0 games
8-0 games
7-0 games

Don’t score again please games.

FCV and Arlington would be good additions to ECNL. But it’s not going to happen.

So to answer your question. Either be great against crap competition or get challenged by better competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

So it is better to be on a bad ECNL team or a good GA team?

Depends; are you making it a bad ECNL team? (Girl) Players will ALWAYS migrate to ECNL; there was just less movement this year because DA became GAL during COVID.

Do you know how some of the bad ECNL teams did recently in friendlies against good GA teams?

We are talking about unbeaten GA teams versus last place ECNL teams with zero to little wins.

It wasn’t impressive.

Do FCV and Arlington have talented players and teams? Absolutely. However, beating the brakes off of everyone week in and out is not helpful to them.

15-0 games
8-0 games
7-0 games

Don’t score again please games.

FCV and Arlington would be good additions to ECNL. But it’s not going to happen.

So to answer your question. Either be great against crap competition or get challenged by better competition.

Agreed. I can’t see myself driving up to DE to play in a 8-0 game. Good teams, wrong league.

[Anonymous]

^— exactly. But I’m sure their best players will stay in a GAL league 👌🏻

There will be a lot of movement to McLean, VDA, and BRYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^— exactly. But I’m sure their best players will stay in a GAL league 👌🏻

There will be a lot of movement to McLean, VDA, and BRYC.

For Arlington, most will stay. Not worth the drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

I was interested in reading your points.....then I read the bolded above when you referred to the 5th place (in the Mid-Atlantic) BRYC team....they aren't even among the best in their own division......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

I was interested in reading your points.....then I read the bolded above when you referred to the 5th place (in the Mid-Atlantic) BRYC team....they aren't even among the best in their own division......

U18-19 is a weird age group. However, you can ask FCV 03 parents how good BRYC 03 if you want. To be clear, BRYC 03 has been the power team for the last 4 years.

But since you check the rankings, I’m sure you saw Mcleans rankings

They’re 5-2-1 in a goofy year behind some very very good teams/clubs.

McLean will be the next powerhouse. Sandwiched between Arlington and Ashburn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

I was interested in reading your points.....then I read the bolded above when you referred to the 5th place (in the Mid-Atlantic) BRYC team....they aren't even among the best in their own division......

U18-19 is a weird age group. However, you can ask FCV 03 parents how good BRYC 03 if you want. To be clear, BRYC 03 has been the power team for the last 4 years.

But since you check the rankings, I’m sure you saw Mcleans rankings

They’re 5-2-1 in a goofy year behind some very very good teams/clubs.

McLean will be the next powerhouse. Sandwiched between Arlington and Ashburn.

Cuckoo cuckoo. Time to visit your doctor again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

I was interested in reading your points.....then I read the bolded above when you referred to the 5th place (in the Mid-Atlantic) BRYC team....they aren't even among the best in their own division......

U18-19 is a weird age group. However, you can ask FCV 03 parents how good BRYC 03 if you want. To be clear, BRYC 03 has been the power team for the last 4 years.

But since you check the rankings, I’m sure you saw Mcleans rankings

They’re 5-2-1 in a goofy year behind some very very good teams/clubs.

McLean will be the next powerhouse. Sandwiched between Arlington and Ashburn.

You are probably the idiot always asking for preseason scrimmage scores.

[Anonymous]

If all this were true then there are the mad scramble to switch clubs starting at u9. And yet there isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA will become a better version of CCL. Change my mind.

100%. But it will take a couple of years and a migration of players. And it’s not like ECNL is heavenly. there are some real concerns there regarding how they plan to structure showcasing opportunities with 120+ teams. Girls who play on teams that are low in their conferences won’t have the showcasing opportunities that girls who play on teams that are top of the conference. 2022 or 2023 DCUM threads around tryout time won’t be about ECNL v GA anymore, but they WILL be about which ECNL teams are ‘worth it’ and which are not. i do think that is an open question answered by a combination of coaching and development and location. I think it’s funny that people keep bringing up that BRYC had a national championship when the coaches that built that team are gone. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

You don’t understand ECNL, showcase structure, recruiting or the landscape.

1.There are no concerns.
2. YOU will try to get you kid on the best team THEY can make
3. If YOUR kid isn’t good enough to make a better team, she still has the opportunity to play those other teams. The conversation will never be about “is it worth it”.
4. One of the best 03s team in the nation is BRYC. Wanna know why? They never really broke up when GDA came around.
5. BRYC last place teams just gave FCV, a top GA club, decent competition....except in the 04 group.
6. MU, who hasn’t even had a season yet, have FCV all they could handle.

With the DA and now the GA collapse, The bad ECNL teams only get better

I was interested in reading your points.....then I read the bolded above when you referred to the 5th place (in the Mid-Atlantic) BRYC team....they aren't even among the best in their own division......

U18-19 is a weird age group. However, you can ask FCV 03 parents how good BRYC 03 if you want. To be clear, BRYC 03 has been the power team for the last 4 years.

But since you check the rankings, I’m sure you saw Mcleans rankings

They’re 5-2-1 in a goofy year behind some very very good teams/clubs.

McLean will be the next powerhouse. Sandwiched between Arlington and Ashburn.

Cuckoo cuckoo. Time to visit your doctor again.

It’s obvious you weren’t around when only two ECNL clubs existed in NOVA, but 50 percent of Mcleans teams were Loudoun County kids. On top of that, Arlington had an agreement to funnel their best kids to Mclean.