Post-DA future - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone really think there will be soccer games being played this autumn? I think it’s much more likely that we’re looking at early 2021 as the first time any of these girls get back on a field, in time for the Virginia HS season. And that’s well after the ECNL mid-Atlantic season is over.

I agree with Spring. Universities are already talking about not having students return until 2021 and public school systems are prepearing for that as well.

There is talk that a vaccine for health care workers and first responders might possibly be ready in the Fall, but they will not have one for the general population until 2021 (if things go as planned).

If school remain closed, it's doubtful sports will continue. Even college sports (big $ generators) will not be happening this Fall.

Schools will not remain closed lol. There will be a coup.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone really think there will be soccer games being played this autumn? I think it’s much more likely that we’re looking at early 2021 as the first time any of these girls get back on a field, in time for the Virginia HS season. And that’s well after the ECNL mid-Atlantic season is over.

I agree with Spring. Universities are already talking about not having students return until 2021 and public school systems are prepearing for that as well.

There is talk that a vaccine for health care workers and first responders might possibly be ready in the Fall, but they will not have one for the general population until 2021 (if things go as planned).

If school remain closed, it's doubtful sports will continue. Even college sports (big $ generators) will not be happening this Fall.

Schools will not remain closed lol. There will be a coup.

I was told I was wrong when I said schools would be closed the rest of this school year and that DA would be terminated.

Fwiw, I also hope I am wrong this time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents are losing jobs, and Well fare is on the rise. Are coaches willing to take a cut in pay?

It's welfare. Welfare.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone really think there will be soccer games being played this autumn? I think it’s much more likely that we’re looking at early 2021 as the first time any of these girls get back on a field, in time for the Virginia HS season. And that’s well after the ECNL mid-Atlantic season is over.

I agree with Spring. Universities are already talking about not having students return until 2021 and public school systems are prepearing for that as well.

There is talk that a vaccine for health care workers and first responders might possibly be ready in the Fall, but they will not have one for the general population until 2021 (if things go as planned).

If school remain closed, it's doubtful sports will continue. Even college sports (big $ generators) will not be happening this Fall.

Schools will not remain closed lol. There will be a coup.

I was told I was wrong when I said schools would be closed the rest of this school year and that DA would be terminated.

Fwiw, I also hope I am wrong this time!

Me too. The fact that people were foolish in reacting a little late does not necessarily mean that they will act foolishly in overreacting now. But there is a lot of foolishness and fear in the air, and a lot of wishful thinking about vaccines and a lot of ignorance about the catastrophic cost in remaining locked down. So who knows, you might be right and our kids will pay for this the rest of their lives, assuming somebody will buy all the debt.

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And if there is no soccer in the fall, kids are still home and looming economic depression, did ECNL really win?

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

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Anonymous wrote:The ECNL spots will go to the players the coach in that age group knows. This is a nightmare

There are plenty of DA players who some ECNL coaches don't know. Especially given geography -- e.g., BRYC may never have seen some of the FCV players, or not since they were U-little which is not relevant. If those players show up and immediately stand out, they'll get a chance even without prior knowledge, and could displace another different DA player that coach thought she/he wanted. the question is when and where do they show up.

Bottom line, let your kid know she will have to fight for her slot on the team she is currently at. Honestly! My kid is excited for the opportunity for some of the top players to shift to her team potentially. She has been playing against them for years and knows them very well. As she is very competitive she wants the most competitive team. Hopefully we will get some coming to our club.

Is she a starter? That’s what you have to ask yourself.

Yes....

Again this is elite soccer, if your scared of someone better taking your child’s spot then it is possible that she isn’t that “elite” I don’t mean to come of like a jerk so sorry if I am, I just know that my kid wants to be with kids that push her so that she is ready for that next step, college. Do you think she will just be given a starting slot because she was loyal to her club that she’s currently on or that she was a starter at the club. Absolutely not, she needs to work for that spot. Bottom line is this, if she can’t fight for her slot now against kids around this area don’t even think about sending her to a D1 college, unfortunately she’ll never set foot on the field.

LOL elite at 13-15 years old? No it’s middle school and high school soccer. I am so tired of the “water down” competition argument- need for elite teams. This is just for the parents. These kids change a lot from middle school to high school. There is too much emphasis put on winning at these ages. For what? A u15 ranking on a website? Have you looked at how many girls go on to play at an elite college program for these “elite” teams....not many. Most will never play college soccer.
The folding of DA just limits the opportunities for girls going forward. Seriously I have seen so many “elite” u13/u14 players disappear by u16. I also have seen bench players at u12 or 2nd team girl who switch teams and really take off. Coaches who like this or that player even though the player is weak. This just puts more power into a hands of a few coaches, limits opportunities for girls and feed ego of the parents. Elite soccer is about the top 2-4 players on the team. That is all the coaches and club care about. You will learn this over the next year or so. Yes I have gone through this twice with two different kids.

FCV and Wash Spirit/MU placed 98-100% of their graduating kids in college soccer? Which "elite" option were you talking about where many don't go on to play in college?[/quote

Above commentator is a parent who’s child is middle of the pact who currently is starting but now might be benched and is scared at the prospect of them not having a home once the top DA top five go with the top ECNL five to make one hell of a team leaving the bottom 8-10 kids hoping they can break the starting lineup. It is a scary thought, but what does everyone think happens in College? I also have seen where it absolutely does matter when talking about the caliber of talent that’s around you in sports it pushes you to do better. If kids don’t have to work for their spot it makes them lazy and there is no urgency to be better to really unlock all that they could be. At the younger level it is almost better to be bottom of the pack, it teaches drive and determination.

Um, incorrect, but thanks for playing!

PS. Stop projecting, we don’t need to hear all of your inner monologue!

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

That would be a YES. Making moves already.

[Anonymous]

^^^

This.

It's a free for all right now. Hope your girls find a place somewhere. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

That would be a YES. Making moves already.

Important to note here that this is a two way street with ecnl staff reaching out to DA players.

-Signed, the parent of the mediocre DA kid

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

That would be a YES. Making moves already.

Important to note here that this is a two way street with ecnl staff reaching out to DA players.

-Signed, the parent of the mediocre DA kid

Try again with that top 15, It’s a nice thought though. I will give you this, it does all depends which age group as well as which club. Truly, except for the 03 FCV team all other teams are subpar. Here is a crazy idea, pair your standouts at FCV with the ECNL kids that keep the teams competitive and you have one hell of a team. Who’s the top ECNL team at the 04, 05 and 06 level in the DMV? Ask yourself why? Then ask what you could do to make that team even better. Plug up the holes with the top players from FCV and you no longer have a team that win you have a team that dominates the top platforms within the ECNL because the teams aren’t watered down anymore. There’s a reason why as good as the front line is on the 04FCV team they aren’t winning everything at the top levels. Same goes for 05’s and 06’s however you take the top 06FCV kids and pair them with the top players at VDA and then you have top talent representing you and dominating without weak players on the bench. I am sure the one FCV dad thumping his chest will try to say, but, but, but we are winning. Listen your conference was watered down crap and beating Metro 10-0 isn’t awesome it’s expected. Top 15 will not get spots on the Top ECNL teams in the DMV that will be reserved for your starting 6-7. Keep hope alive though.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

That would be a YES. Making moves already.

Important to note here that this is a two way street with ecnl staff reaching out to DA players.

-Signed, the parent of the mediocre DA kid

Try again with that top 15, It’s a nice thought though. I will give you this, it does all depends which age group as well as which club. Truly, except for the 03 FCV team all other teams are subpar. Here is a crazy idea, pair your standouts at FCV with the ECNL kids that keep the teams competitive and you have one hell of a team. Who’s the top ECNL team at the 04, 05 and 06 level in the DMV? Ask yourself why? Then ask what you could do to make that team even better. Plug up the holes with the top players from FCV and you no longer have a team that win you have a team that dominates the top platforms within the ECNL because the teams aren’t watered down anymore. There’s a reason why as good as the front line is on the 04FCV team they aren’t winning everything at the top levels. Same goes for 05’s and 06’s however you take the top 06FCV kids and pair them with the top players at VDA and then you have top talent representing you and dominating without weak players on the bench. I am sure the one FCV dad thumping his chest will try to say, but, but, but we are winning. Listen your conference was watered down crap and beating Metro 10-0 isn’t awesome it’s expected. Top 15 will not get spots on the Top ECNL teams in the DMV that will be reserved for your starting 6-7. Keep hope alive though.

06 VDA has no weak players so keep FCV away... The team does just fine and is too for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.

This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.

Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.

Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.

In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....

top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.

Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!

So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.

That would be a YES. Making moves already.

Important to note here that this is a two way street with ecnl staff reaching out to DA players.

-Signed, the parent of the mediocre DA kid

Try again with that top 15, It’s a nice thought though. I will give you this, it does all depends which age group as well as which club. Truly, except for the 03 FCV team all other teams are subpar. Here is a crazy idea, pair your standouts at FCV with the ECNL kids that keep the teams competitive and you have one hell of a team. Who’s the top ECNL team at the 04, 05 and 06 level in the DMV? Ask yourself why? Then ask what you could do to make that team even better. Plug up the holes with the top players from FCV and you no longer have a team that win you have a team that dominates the top platforms within the ECNL because the teams aren’t watered down anymore. There’s a reason why as good as the front line is on the 04FCV team they aren’t winning everything at the top levels. Same goes for 05’s and 06’s however you take the top 06FCV kids and pair them with the top players at VDA and then you have top talent representing you and dominating without weak players on the bench. I am sure the one FCV dad thumping his chest will try to say, but, but, but we are winning. Listen your conference was watered down crap and beating Metro 10-0 isn’t awesome it’s expected. Top 15 will not get spots on the Top ECNL teams in the DMV that will be reserved for your starting 6-7. Keep hope alive though.

06 VDA has no weak players so keep FCV away... The team does just fine and is too for a reason.

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