Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous
Rudy Giuliani is saying on Fox News that he has had the Ukraine transcript read to him.

I'd be interested in knowing what rationale could possibly exist for a person who does not work for the government getting access to the transcript before Congress.

Particularly since the LAW says the NDI is to turn it over to the Congress within seven days. Not the White House, not the DOJ.

This whole administration is corrupt.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are now known as the "Impeachment Party."

They need a new bumper sticker.... "We can't beat him, so let's impeach him."


Is putting your country in a compromised position for personal gain worse than a blowjob? If so, then the president should be impeached. If he didn't want to be impeached, then perhaps he should check his actions at the door.


Sounds like this is exactly what Biden did.
And, thanks for reminding everyone of Bill Clinton's sick proclivities.


There is no proof that is what Biden did. In fact, Biden's actions at the time were consistent with US and its' allies foreign policy objectives. There is nothing in any cables, read-outs or conversations that suggest otherwise. The whole Biden thing is a manufactured smokescreen. Just like UraniumOne, the NunesMemo, Pizzagate, Wiretapping and the list goes on. How many times are the right wing people going to fall for the same formula of false narratives and distraction before they start to blame the messenger about the fake messages they are given? Or do they just prefer and enjoy being lied to?

Biden outted himself on video when he said exactly why he had that investigator fired. Or else!


So then Biden shouldn't be President. It doesn't change Trump's situation.


What do you think about Menendez, Durbin, and Leahy contacting the Ukraine govt. to encourage continued investigation on Trump?

It got almost no attention, but in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/24/democrats-investigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/


Your whataboutism fails because these lawmakers didn't threaten holding up aid - Trump's mobster move is what will take him down. No doubt this has been how he's operated since day 1 in office.


^^ The rantings of an immature, highly partisan rube who has been fooled by the Democrats into believing *anything* negative about this administration because, Trump.


Well, duh. Because Trump. There is nothing positive about him. He bathes in sewer water every day, he's going to stink.
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Everyone please read the Washington Post's latest revelations from last night: it describes in fascinating detail how official channels, including Bolton and the US ambassador to Ukraine, were sidelined without explanation to allow Giuliani's backchannel to try to dig up dirt on the Bidens and the people involved with Manafort; how some aides tried to avoid having Trump talk to the Ukrainian president directly because they worried he would incriminate himself; and how Trump finally made that call a day after the Mueller testimony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-pursued-shadow-ukraine-agenda-as-key-foreign-policy-officials-were-sidelined/2019/09/24/ee18aaec-deec-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html
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Anonymous wrote:Trump blackmailed the Ukrainians out of cooperating with the Mueller investigation. What is your point?


Yup.
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-stopped-helping-mueller-probe-after-trump-administration-gave-it-908322


+1 Most corrupt administration ever.
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Anonymous wrote:I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.


Of course the whistleblower does. His attorney stated he (the attorney) is eager to see the full release of the WB report. Any substantive edits will be called out immediately.

Now, the phone call “transcript” could very well be garbage.


This is always the narrative - “they changed things!” You were caught with your shorts down. You didn’t expect a release. You didn’t expect to see that Dems had contacted Ukraine to ask them to investigate Trump. You also didn’t expect the lawyers of the whistleblower to be exposed, nor did you expect the information to be second (or third) hand, so had to shift THAT narrative to “it’s broader than one call. It’s a behavior”.

This is more of the same.
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It is truly astounding that people are defending Trump eventhough both he and Rudy have admitted to the crimes already.

I guess we are moving to the "I did it, so what" phase?
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Anonymous wrote:Sounds to me that this is not going to go well for the Democrats.

They are going with the "Ready, fire, aim" strategy. They get the American people all worked up for something that turns out to be nothing.
And, if this is the case, I hope this "whistleblower" is held accountable. And, Pelosi and Schumer when it comes to the 2020 election.


The goal is to get a viral message out, not to actually back it up.
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Anonymous wrote:I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.


Of course the whistleblower does. His attorney stated he (the attorney) is eager to see the full release of the WB report. Any substantive edits will be called out immediately.

Now, the phone call “transcript” could very well be garbage.


This is always the narrative - “they changed things!” You were caught with your shorts down. You didn’t expect a release. You didn’t expect to see that Dems had contacted Ukraine to ask them to investigate Trump. You also didn’t expect the lawyers of the whistleblower to be exposed, nor did you expect the information to be second (or third) hand, so had to shift THAT narrative to “it’s broader than one call. It’s a behavior”.

This is more of the same.


No, it is that the transcript of a single call is not what the whistleblower complaint is based on. It is one piece. So having a transcript of a call - particularly a month after it was to have been turned over to the Congress and never should have been in the White House possession in the first place - is almost meaningless.

It is okay because both the Whistleblower and the IG who referred the case to the DNI know what is in it, and they will both be compelled to testify. If it is discovered that the White House manipulated anything, it will be revealed.
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The best part about this is that they can hold hearings for months and months.
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Anonymous wrote:The best part about this is that they can hold hearings for months and months.


And, get nothing else done. Win-win, right?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.


Of course the whistleblower does. His attorney stated he (the attorney) is eager to see the full release of the WB report. Any substantive edits will be called out immediately.

Now, the phone call “transcript” could very well be garbage.


This is always the narrative - “they changed things!” You were caught with your shorts down. You didn’t expect a release. You didn’t expect to see that Dems had contacted Ukraine to ask them to investigate Trump. You also didn’t expect the lawyers of the whistleblower to be exposed, nor did you expect the information to be second (or third) hand, so had to shift THAT narrative to “it’s broader than one call. It’s a behavior”.

This is more of the same.


No, it is that the transcript of a single call is not what the whistleblower complaint is based on. It is one piece. So having a transcript of a call - particularly a month after it was to have been turned over to the Congress and never should have been in the White House possession in the first place - is almost meaningless.

It is okay because both the Whistleblower and the IG who referred the case to the DNI know what is in it, and they will both be compelled to testify. If it is discovered that the White House manipulated anything, it will be revealed.


It also won’t actually be a transcript - just notes on the call. From the White House that lies about the weather.
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Anonymous wrote:The best part about this is that they can hold hearings for months and months.


And, get nothing else done. Win-win, right?


The House is doing plenty. Take your complaints to the Senate.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.


Of course the whistleblower does. His attorney stated he (the attorney) is eager to see the full release of the WB report. Any substantive edits will be called out immediately.

Now, the phone call “transcript” could very well be garbage.


This is always the narrative - “they changed things!” You were caught with your shorts down. You didn’t expect a release. You didn’t expect to see that Dems had contacted Ukraine to ask them to investigate Trump. You also didn’t expect the lawyers of the whistleblower to be exposed, nor did you expect the information to be second (or third) hand, so had to shift THAT narrative to “it’s broader than one call. It’s a behavior”.

This is more of the same.


No, it is that the transcript of a single call is not what the whistleblower complaint is based on. It is one piece. So having a transcript of a call - particularly a month after it was to have been turned over to the Congress and never should have been in the White House possession in the first place - is almost meaningless.

It is okay because both the Whistleblower and the IG who referred the case to the DNI know what is in it, and they will both be compelled to testify. If it is discovered that the White House manipulated anything, it will be revealed.


As I said, when the Whistleblower story gets destroyed, it’s about ‘the whole picture, because I hate Trump’
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The best part about this is that they can hold hearings for months and months.


And, get nothing else done. Win-win, right?


The House is doing plenty. Take your complaints to the Senate.


LOL. Anything the House has done is for show only. Like this latest move by Pelosi.
None of the "legislation" they have passed has a chance in hell of being signed into law. They know it. They are doing it for show.
And, the American people are paying attention.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.


Of course the whistleblower does. His attorney stated he (the attorney) is eager to see the full release of the WB report. Any substantive edits will be called out immediately.

Now, the phone call “transcript” could very well be garbage.


This is always the narrative - “they changed things!” You were caught with your shorts down. You didn’t expect a release. You didn’t expect to see that Dems had contacted Ukraine to ask them to investigate Trump. You also didn’t expect the lawyers of the whistleblower to be exposed, nor did you expect the information to be second (or third) hand, so had to shift THAT narrative to “it’s broader than one call. It’s a behavior”.

This is more of the same.


No, it is that the transcript of a single call is not what the whistleblower complaint is based on. It is one piece. So having a transcript of a call - particularly a month after it was to have been turned over to the Congress and never should have been in the White House possession in the first place - is almost meaningless.

It is okay because both the Whistleblower and the IG who referred the case to the DNI know what is in it, and they will both be compelled to testify. If it is discovered that the White House manipulated anything, it will be revealed.


As I said, when the Whistleblower story gets destroyed, it’s about ‘the whole picture, because I hate Trump’


No, the rats are fleeing the ship. This is going to be bigger than just this one whistleblower. It’s too late baby now, it’s too late.
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