Pelvic exams on unconscious women

[Anonymous]

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EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

If you find yourself in a medical emergency you likely won't choose your hospital, doctors or even have a chance to get a second opinion before you get sucked into the medical abyss.

Emergency Medicine is really the only specialty where American medical is outstanding. Everything else: FORGET IT, especially with the HIGH maternal DEATH rate we have.

[Anonymous]

There are so many ignorant statements made on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

This poster is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

Sure. (wink, wink)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

Funny how you pretend to know if a woman can have her husband with her during a C-Section, which is MAJOR surgery.

[Anonymous]

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This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.

So, what do you suggest, to accompany your loved one into the OR and hang out there during surgery?

Why not? You don't have to see the actual surgery.

I think the point is that you’re not allowed into the OR, dummy.

Perhaps you're too young to remember when fathers weren't allowed to stay with their wives in the delivery rooms, you Twit Doctor. (Don't deny who you are.) Lol.

That’s a delivery, not a surgery.

-not a doctor, twit or otherwise.

Cesareans are MAJOR surgery, Twit.

Except you aren’t anesthesized under general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.

So, what do you suggest, to accompany your loved one into the OR and hang out there during surgery?

Why not? You don't have to see the actual surgery.

I think the point is that you’re not allowed into the OR, dummy.

Perhaps you're too young to remember when fathers weren't allowed to stay with their wives in the delivery rooms, you Twit Doctor. (Don't deny who you are.) Lol.

That’s a delivery, not a surgery.

-not a doctor, twit or otherwise.

Cesareans are MAJOR surgery, Twit.

Except you aren’t anesthesized under general.

No one said you are.
Again, C-Sections are MAJOR surgery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

This poster is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Only a minority of hospital visits are emergencies, Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.

So, what do you suggest, to accompany your loved one into the OR and hang out there during surgery?

Why not? You don't have to see the actual surgery.

I think the point is that you’re not allowed into the OR, dummy.

Perhaps you're too young to remember when fathers weren't allowed to stay with their wives in the delivery rooms, you Twit Doctor. (Don't deny who you are.) Lol.

That’s a delivery, not a surgery.

-not a doctor, twit or otherwise.

Cesareans are MAJOR surgery, Twit.

Except you aren’t anesthesized under general.

If it's a real emergency, you may well be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is EXACTLY why you NEVER
leave your loved one ALONE in a hospital!

You NEVER know WHAT they're doing to them.
Hospitals are NOT safe places.

Just saying the truth.
Buyer BEWARE.

So, what do you suggest, to accompany your loved one into the OR and hang out there during surgery?

Why not? You don't have to see the actual surgery.

I think the point is that you’re not allowed into the OR, dummy.

Perhaps you're too young to remember when fathers weren't allowed to stay with their wives in the delivery rooms, you Twit Doctor. (Don't deny who you are.) Lol.

That’s a delivery, not a surgery.

-not a doctor, twit or otherwise.

Cesareans are MAJOR surgery, Twit.

Except you aren’t anesthesized under general.

If it's a real emergency, you may well be.

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

Sure. (wink, wink)

You’re embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

I have no idea what you mean by “places like mine”. I neither own nor work in a hospital.

Sure. (wink, wink)

You’re embarrassing yourself.

Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Interestingly, research shows that while first-year medical students largely find the idea of practicing pelvic exams on women under anesthetic to be morally problematic, the longer they spend in medical school, the less they see it as an issue. Some have labeled this process, which shows up in many aspects of medical education, “ethical erosion.” “

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.slate.com/technology/2018/10/pelvic-exams-unconscious-women-medical-training-consent.html

Parents must warn their daughters about this routine practice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is making me wonder about every doctor, male or female, that I know. Did they do this!?

I'm glad I didn't know about this before the surgery I had recently. Non-gynological, thank goodness.

I have almost always chosen women doctors for myself and kids, but for specialists, I have had some men. My current cardiologist is excellent and took precautions I hadn't even thought to ask about - for my first exam with him he brought a nurse in, who just quietly stood against the wall to be witness. I have no idea if it is legally required or not, but I appreciated it.

Had a conversation with hubby (who is a surgeon) and some of his surgeon friends. No one had known of this practice in the OR, where they had unfettered access to touch, grope, feel a woman. When I mentioned this, they were quite surprised and shocked. They said the only time they had "access" to look/touch at a female or male in such manner was if there were volunteers (note: not patients) who knowingly permitted it but they said this was few and far. FWIW, hubby and his friends are not OBGYNs so I cannot comment on what transpires there.

Two physicians in my family - both anesthesiologists working at teaching hospitals - and they said in all their years they had never witnessed anything such as is described. Yes, internal examinations may take place but it would be limited to one or two residents at the most and it would be under supervision.

Um. Isn’t “internal examination” just another term for the same thing?

What else would it except a gynecological exam????