Pelvic exams on unconscious women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

If you find yourself in a medical emergency you likely won't choose your hospital, doctors or even have a chance to get a second opinion before you get sucked into the medical abyss.

Emergency Medicine is really the only specialty where American medical is outstanding. Everything else: FORGET IT, especially with the HIGH maternal DEATH rate we have.

True.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone goes to a male ob gyn. Women are so naive.

My older male OB is far and away the best doctor I have ever been to in my life. I've been his patient for 15 years and 2 children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is making me wonder about every doctor, male or female, that I know. Did they do this!?

I'm glad I didn't know about this before the surgery I had recently. Non-gynological, thank goodness.

I have almost always chosen women doctors for myself and kids, but for specialists, I have had some men. My current cardiologist is excellent and took precautions I hadn't even thought to ask about - for my first exam with him he brought a nurse in, who just quietly stood against the wall to be witness. I have no idea if it is legally required or not, but I appreciated it.

Had a conversation with hubby (who is a surgeon) and some of his surgeon friends. No one had known of this practice in the OR, where they had unfettered access to touch, grope, feel a woman. When I mentioned this, they were quite surprised and shocked. They said the only time they had "access" to look/touch at a female or male in such manner was if there were volunteers (note: not patients) who knowingly permitted it but they said this was few and far. FWIW, hubby and his friends are not OBGYNs so I cannot comment on what transpires there.

Two physicians in my family - both anesthesiologists working at teaching hospitals - and they said in all their years they had never witnessed anything such as is described. Yes, internal examinations may take place but it would be limited to one or two residents at the most and it would be under supervision.

Um. Isn’t “internal examination” just another term for the same thing?

What else would it except a gynecological exam????

Anal exam?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone goes to a male ob gyn. Women are so naive.

My older male OB is far and away the best doctor I have ever been to in my life. I've been his patient for 15 years and 2 children.

He’s a rare gem. Women are generally much safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

If you find yourself in a medical emergency you likely won't choose your hospital, doctors or even have a chance to get a second opinion before you get sucked into the medical abyss.

Emergency Medicine is really the only specialty where American medical is outstanding. Everything else: FORGET IT, especially with the HIGH maternal DEATH rate we have.

True.

Huh? If you had cancer, which country would you go to for treatment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone goes to a male ob gyn. Women are so naive.

My older male OB is far and away the best doctor I have ever been to in my life. I've been his patient for 15 years and 2 children.

Mine, who’s name is in a well regarded DC practice, was a total creep. Only time I’ve ever been creeped out by a doctor. Thank goodness he wasn’t on duty when I delivered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone goes to a male ob gyn. Women are so naive.

My older male OB is far and away the best doctor I have ever been to in my life. I've been his patient for 15 years and 2 children.

Mine, who’s name is in a well regarded DC practice, was a total creep. Only time I’ve ever been creeped out by a doctor. Thank goodness he wasn’t on duty when I delivered.

Name names. Save other women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
EVERYONE here should take note of the above NASTY doctor. I bet he tries to be Mr. Polite in public, but this is who many of them are underneath their white coats.

You have EXPOSED yourself here. Patients beware. Don't go in alone.

What should be noted is this ludicrous poster who actually thinks a non-patient will be allowed in the operating room!

If a woman wants her husband there for her C-Section, it's usually fine.

Certainly not everywhere is this the case. Patients don’t usually get to dictate who’s in the OR.

Smart people avoid bad places like yours.

Smart consumers choose the best places to accommodate their preferences.

If you find yourself in a medical emergency you likely won't choose your hospital, doctors or even have a chance to get a second opinion before you get sucked into the medical abyss.

Emergency Medicine is really the only specialty where American medical is outstanding. Everything else: FORGET IT, especially with the HIGH maternal DEATH rate we have.

True.

Huh? If you had cancer, which country would you go to for treatment?

Off the top of my head, I’d look into Germany. For the most part, Americans have been an utter failure on the cancer front. I can remember when they told you that cancer was mostly in your genes, and there’s not much you can do to avoid it. Heck, I even remember doctors thinking smoking was ok!

American medicine is mostly in the dark ages. Just look at our shameful maternity care. Most emergencies are actually created by doctors, based on what I’ve seen. Way too much interference, and not enough patience.

[Anonymous]

I avoid them and would never consider a male pediatrician for my tween girls. Beyond the male doctor issue, I only go to the doctor if absolutely necessary. The whole thing is just some pointless exercise for them to try to put you on some drug from big pharma. They know nothing about health. It’s actually shocking how little they know about nutrition, stress management, exercise, and all the other things that keep you healthy. As for having surgery, sure I would if it were a true emergency, but most of those orthopedic surgeries and such are unnecessary as well. It’s just a cash cow.

[Anonymous]

Too many perverted physicians out there. Beware.

[Anonymous]

Here’s a question? Is Sibley considered a teaching hospital? I had a gym procedure there in 2004 where I was under anesthesia (not general but it was like an amnesiac I think). The doctor asked at the last minute if I’d be okay with residents or students observing and I said yes because I felt put on the spot. I was sort of shocked when I saw because it turned out to be a huge group but I didn’t feel like I could retract my permission at that point. I remember when I “woke up” I was sobbing.
I don’t think of Sibley as a teaching hospital, but is it possible that some of the students practiced on me?
Maybe unrelated, but in my first pregnancy (a year or two later), I had a rare complication that is often associated with previous uterine damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a question? Is Sibley considered a teaching hospital? I had a gym procedure there in 2004 where I was under anesthesia (not general but it was like an amnesiac I think). The doctor asked at the last minute if I’d be okay with residents or students observing and I said yes because I felt put on the spot. I was sort of shocked when I saw because it turned out to be a huge group but I didn’t feel like I could retract my permission at that point. I remember when I “woke up” I was sobbing.
I don’t think of Sibley as a teaching hospital, but is it possible that some of the students practiced on me?
Maybe unrelated, but in my first pregnancy (a year or two later), I had a rare complication that is often associated with previous uterine damage.

That's really horrific.

[Anonymous]

When I was 15, my friend's father tried to stick his tongue down my mouth. He was a prominent ob/gyn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heads up that this continues to be a practice which is incredibly upsetting when you go in for surgery. Some med students don’t know what they are doing so the thought of being violated in this way is terrible. This American life apparently did a segment on this recently. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/05/14/pelvic-exams-on-anesthetized-women-without-consent-a-troubling-and-outdated-practice/amp/

And this is why I have not gotten a colonoscopy yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH questioned a doctor who was supposed to be examining his prostate. The doctor got defensive about his unusual technique and after that DH never went to that guy again. He felt violated and there was no one else in the room. So it happens to men too.

Something similar happened to my husband.