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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian 
32% Non-Virginian

Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences
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The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to [b]be fairly average[/b].  Even a good school like[b] UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.[/quote][/b]

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest.  These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc.  Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial.  If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.[/quote]

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.[/quote]

J[b]ealous?[/quote][/b]

+1.  Note the date this thread was started.  Every year right after RDs come out these threads bashing on schools that students didn't get into appear.  "I was driving by (insert name of school) last week (WTF???) and it didn't look so hot".  Sad.[/quote]

[b]Well I am the OP and my kids haven't even gone into Junior year yet, so you're completely wrong. The thread was started out of the genuine shock and horror of seeing UVA and its frat houses in its natural, mire-like state.[/quote][/b]

So you just drive by a university and make a judgment based upon a row of off-campus frat houses without even stepping on campus and then you come on here to share your wisdom?  Prejudiced much?  If you had judged my college on its frat houses you would have stepped on the gas to get out of the barrio neighborhood.  Why don't you park your car and take your children on a tour and expose them to the gorgeous Rotunda, the lawn, the law school, Poe's preserved room on the lawn?  How about a history tour?  Why don't you look up the stats on UVA and learn how difficult it is to get in before you bash a school?  (BTW Prepscholar says the average GPA is now a 4.26).  Average ACT is 31-34.  Almost the entirety of the class of 2021 are in the top 10% of their class.  94.6% of the 2020 first year class is in the top 10% of its class and comes from 84 countries and all 50 states. I hope you don't drive around the neighborhood of my alma mater, New Haven.  Or USC.  Or Columbia.  Or Drexel.  Or Cornell.  I think you owe an apology to the 16,000+ undergrads at UVA who worked like dogs to get there.[/quote]

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