Why do people defend illegal immigration? (Serious question)

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Anonymous wrote:Another serious question, why don't these people become legal citizens?

Or learn English. For the love of god, learn English!!! Assimilate already.

I was at the DMV in Arlington renew my license. There were so many people wandering around asking questions in Spanish, eyes really big and wide like "oooh please help me, kind people." I think they expected us to be paying for a translator for them! LOL. One old white man helped translate...was surprised he was the only one willing to help.

Or maybe he was the only one who spoke Spanish!! This is America.....it's not like everyone is bilingual.

Please, illegal alien kids get FREE school and English to become bilingual. Money that could be spent teaching legal children another language which all other countries do. Not us. Lets keep funding ESOL instead and giving illegal aliens two languages. Try to find any other country who not only allows illegal aliens to go to school for free but spends billions in legal citizen's taxes to feed and teach them to become billingual for free.

How about free health care? My daughter needed to see a specialist at Children's. The best I could do was get her in to see a nurse practitioner because the doctor appointments were booked for months. I get there and we are literally the only English speaking family in the waiting room. We receive no subsidies and are paying out-of-pocket more than $20,000 a year for health insurance and I can't get my kid into a specialist but all of the immigrants have appointments with the actual doctors and better coverage than us.

You are the definition of a racist. You do not know anything about these families. You have NO way of knowing these families' immigration status, which doctor they are seeing, how long ago they booked the appointment, or what they pay for their health insurance or healthcare.

Please, everyone knows that illegal immigrants are a drain on the health care system. It's not like it is a big secret or something.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm

And yet you are still a racist! You can't see it's wrong to make blanket assumptions about an entire race of people?

Nope. You probably pay $25 co-pay for an office visit. Get back to me when you have to pay $150-250 for the very same visit and that's after paying $1000 per month premium. Let's see how open-minded you are when you realize that you are subsidizing everyone else and their five kids.

You're still making assumptions based on people's appearance, so you sound racist and dumb.

Yes because most poor Spanish speaking people are here legally in the United States.

Please provide a source saying that MOST poor Spanish speaking people are here illegally.

I usually dont do research for nitwits, especially racist ones, but this thread cries out for facts. According to the Instituto Cervantes, there are 41M native Spanish speakers in the United States. And another 11M bilingual speakers. Donald Trump says there are 11M illegals total. Do the math.

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Noble is staying and making your country better
Noble is educating yourself
Noble is not procreating every year when you can't even afford food for yourself.
Noble is waiting for a LEGAL way to enter the country

True.

Maybe we should also post signs on the The Wall reminding immigrants that tens of millions of people who were born in the U.S. can't even get these things.

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Anonymous wrote:Because if I had to raise my kids in a town controlled by cartels and have them witness unspeakable violence or end up joining the cartels for protection, I can't say I too wouldn't strap my shit on my back and try to come over here to bust my ass and give my kids a good safe life. THAT is why I refuse to demonize illegal immigrants.

Are there no decent places within their country of origin? Mexico City seems nice to me - in fact preferable to many places in the U.S. I am asking sincerely.

Not PP... I think the US economy is a lot better off in terms of the availability of low skilled jobs.

Like others have stated, if businesses didn't hire illegal immigrants, they'd stop coming here. So really, it's the fault of the people who hire them. I can't blame people for wanting a better life for themselves, and their children.

The US, for all its faults, is also less corrupt than most of the countries south of the border.

I don't dispute that the US is overall better. My point is that there are other options eveN for those in danger which is a minority. I know quite a few immigrants (I am one also) and none of them *had* to be here like their life depending on it or something. All would survive and lived decent lives in their home countries.

I'm an immigrant (yes, legal), too, from a war torn country. My family escaped the kind of poverty that most people in this country will never now. I don't know what all of the illegal immigrants' lives were like in their home country, but I figure it was quite desperate in order for them to risk life/limb to illegally cross the border.

That crossing is dangerous. Many die in the hopes of reaching this country. I figure if they are willing to sacrifice their lives for a better life than their lives at home must've quite desperate indeed.

Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

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Anonymous wrote:Another serious question, why don't these people become legal citizens?

Or learn English. For the love of god, learn English!!! Assimilate already.

I was at the DMV in Arlington renew my license. There were so many people wandering around asking questions in Spanish, eyes really big and wide like "oooh please help me, kind people." I think they expected us to be paying for a translator for them! LOL. One old white man helped translate...was surprised he was the only one willing to help.

Or maybe he was the only one who spoke Spanish!! This is America.....it's not like everyone is bilingual.

Please, illegal alien kids get FREE school and English to become bilingual. Money that could be spent teaching legal children another language which all other countries do. Not us. Lets keep funding ESOL instead and giving illegal aliens two languages. Try to find any other country who not only allows illegal aliens to go to school for free but spends billions in legal citizen's taxes to feed and teach them to become billingual for free.

How about free health care? My daughter needed to see a specialist at Children's. The best I could do was get her in to see a nurse practitioner because the doctor appointments were booked for months. I get there and we are literally the only English speaking family in the waiting room. We receive no subsidies and are paying out-of-pocket more than $20,000 a year for health insurance and I can't get my kid into a specialist but all of the immigrants have appointments with the actual doctors and better coverage than us.

You are the definition of a racist. You do not know anything about these families. You have NO way of knowing these families' immigration status, which doctor they are seeing, how long ago they booked the appointment, or what they pay for their health insurance or healthcare.

Please, everyone knows that illegal immigrants are a drain on the health care system. It's not like it is a big secret or something.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm

And yet you are still a racist! You can't see it's wrong to make blanket assumptions about an entire race of people?

Nope. You probably pay $25 co-pay for an office visit. Get back to me when you have to pay $150-250 for the very same visit and that's after paying $1000 per month premium. Let's see how open-minded you are when you realize that you are subsidizing everyone else and their five kids.

You're still making assumptions based on people's appearance, so you sound racist and dumb.

Yes because most poor Spanish speaking people are here legally in the United States.

Please provide a source saying that MOST poor Spanish speaking people are here illegally.

I usually dont do research for nitwits, especially racist ones, but this thread cries out for facts. According to the Instituto Cervantes, there are 41M native Spanish speakers in the United States. And another 11M bilingual speakers. Donald Trump says there are 11M illegals total. Do the math.

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Anonymous wrote:Another serious question, why don't these people become legal citizens?

Or learn English. For the love of god, learn English!!! Assimilate already.

I was at the DMV in Arlington renew my license. There were so many people wandering around asking questions in Spanish, eyes really big and wide like "oooh please help me, kind people." I think they expected us to be paying for a translator for them! LOL. One old white man helped translate...was surprised he was the only one willing to help.

Or maybe he was the only one who spoke Spanish!! This is America.....it's not like everyone is bilingual.

Please, illegal alien kids get FREE school and English to become bilingual. Money that could be spent teaching legal children another language which all other countries do. Not us. Lets keep funding ESOL instead and giving illegal aliens two languages. Try to find any other country who not only allows illegal aliens to go to school for free but spends billions in legal citizen's taxes to feed and teach them to become billingual for free.

How about free health care? My daughter needed to see a specialist at Children's. The best I could do was get her in to see a nurse practitioner because the doctor appointments were booked for months. I get there and we are literally the only English speaking family in the waiting room. We receive no subsidies and are paying out-of-pocket more than $20,000 a year for health insurance and I can't get my kid into a specialist but all of the immigrants have appointments with the actual doctors and better coverage than us.

You are the definition of a racist. You do not know anything about these families. You have NO way of knowing these families' immigration status, which doctor they are seeing, how long ago they booked the appointment, or what they pay for their health insurance or healthcare.

Please, everyone knows that illegal immigrants are a drain on the health care system. It's not like it is a big secret or something.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm

And yet you are still a racist! You can't see it's wrong to make blanket assumptions about an entire race of people?

Nope. You probably pay $25 co-pay for an office visit. Get back to me when you have to pay $150-250 for the very same visit and that's after paying $1000 per month premium. Let's see how open-minded you are when you realize that you are subsidizing everyone else and their five kids.

You're still making assumptions based on people's appearance, so you sound racist and dumb.

Yes because most poor Spanish speaking people are here legally in the United States.

Please provide a source saying that MOST poor Spanish speaking people are here illegally.

I usually dont do research for nitwits, especially racist ones, but this thread cries out for facts. According to the Instituto Cervantes, there are 41M native Spanish speakers in the United States. And another 11M bilingual speakers. Donald Trump says there are 11M illegals total. Do the math.

Native Spanish speakers are also all the illegal kids they bring or anchor kids they pop out thanks to our outdated slave ammendment. Estimated 23.5 million. Do the math

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

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Anonymous wrote:Another serious question, why don't these people become legal citizens?

Or learn English. For the love of god, learn English!!! Assimilate already.

I was at the DMV in Arlington renew my license. There were so many people wandering around asking questions in Spanish, eyes really big and wide like "oooh please help me, kind people." I think they expected us to be paying for a translator for them! LOL. One old white man helped translate...was surprised he was the only one willing to help.

Or maybe he was the only one who spoke Spanish!! This is America.....it's not like everyone is bilingual.

Please, illegal alien kids get FREE school and English to become bilingual. Money that could be spent teaching legal children another language which all other countries do. Not us. Lets keep funding ESOL instead and giving illegal aliens two languages. Try to find any other country who not only allows illegal aliens to go to school for free but spends billions in legal citizen's taxes to feed and teach them to become billingual for free.

How about free health care? My daughter needed to see a specialist at Children's. The best I could do was get her in to see a nurse practitioner because the doctor appointments were booked for months. I get there and we are literally the only English speaking family in the waiting room. We receive no subsidies and are paying out-of-pocket more than $20,000 a year for health insurance and I can't get my kid into a specialist but all of the immigrants have appointments with the actual doctors and better coverage than us.

You are the definition of a racist. You do not know anything about these families. You have NO way of knowing these families' immigration status, which doctor they are seeing, how long ago they booked the appointment, or what they pay for their health insurance or healthcare.

Please, everyone knows that illegal immigrants are a drain on the health care system. It's not like it is a big secret or something.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm

And yet you are still a racist! You can't see it's wrong to make blanket assumptions about an entire race of people?

Nope. You probably pay $25 co-pay for an office visit. Get back to me when you have to pay $150-250 for the very same visit and that's after paying $1000 per month premium. Let's see how open-minded you are when you realize that you are subsidizing everyone else and their five kids.

You're still making assumptions based on people's appearance, so you sound racist and dumb.

Yes because most poor Spanish speaking people are here legally in the United States.

Please provide a source saying that MOST poor Spanish speaking people are here illegally.

I usually dont do research for nitwits, especially racist ones, but this thread cries out for facts. According to the Instituto Cervantes, there are 41M native Spanish speakers in the United States. And another 11M bilingual speakers. Donald Trump says there are 11M illegals total. Do the math.

Native Spanish speakers are also all the illegal kids they bring or anchor kids they pop out thanks to our outdated slave ammendment. Estimated 23.5 million. Do the math

PP, what can I say, you are crazy.

Just for the record, could you please tell us who you voted for?

(Assuming you can vote, that is)

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

Funny how when your "facts" are brought to a halt, you resort to mud slinging and name calling. Kudos

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

ok, how many exactly? how many are actually flying from cartels? lets see some numbers from you.

i am sorry that you came from some hell hole but not all of us did.

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

Wait, are we supposed to feel bad about those that break federal law? Who cares how they got here. Boat, crawled, swam, walked, skipped, etc... They broke the law.

You should like a grandfather. I walked 2 miles to school everyday in 4 feet of snow.....

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

ok, how many exactly? how many are actually flying from cartels? lets see some numbers from you.

i am sorry that you came from some hell hole but not all of us did.

I have no idea, but I am not the one claiming that "most" illegals over stay their visas and walk over the border "calmly". I just used the "facts" you stated to show that "most" illegal immigrants are not compromised of those who overstay their visas.

By all means, let's stick to "facts", just don't then go making up your own "facts" when you have no idea what's true and what isn't either.

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

Wait, are we supposed to feel bad about those that break federal law? Who cares how they got here. Boat, crawled, swam, walked, skipped, etc... They broke the law.

You should like a grandfather. I walked 2 miles to school everyday in 4 feet of snow.....

? I am stating "facts". Whether you want to feel some sympathy for people is entirely up to your conscience.

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Most illegals immigrants come through visa overstays. Not sure they ever crossed dangerous borders and it seems they could afford travels and visas. The stereotype of desperate hard working immigrants fighting for life is incorrect (and very annoying to me as it does not apply at all). I am sure it describes some people but whether that is even a majority of highly questionable.

How do you know this?

Regardless, for those who are willing to risk life/limb, their lives must've been pretty dire.

And we all know that stereotypes don't apply to all, but I presume to know everyone's situation.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/29/marco-rubio/rubio-says-40-percent-illegal-immigrants-are-overs/

"mostly true".

40% is not "most". Based on math, "most" illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, not overstay their visas.

right....must be fun to be so pedantic.

when you subtract those who calmly file and pay for their visas and those who go casually cross the border the number of those who fight for their lives climbing fences diminishes significantly.

40% over stay their visas.

60% came by other means, ie, cross the border illegally. "Calmly" cross the border? You realize walking miles in the hot desert is not a cake walk?

Many have died trying to "calmly" walk across the border via dehydration or drowning in the river. For those who don't "calmly" walk across the border, they are usually packed into trucks with little water and ventilation.

The only illegal immigrants who probably "calmly" walk across the border are those from the north of us.

Wait, are we supposed to feel bad about those that break federal law? Who cares how they got here. Boat, crawled, swam, walked, skipped, etc... They broke the law.

You should like a grandfather. I walked 2 miles to school everyday in 4 feet of snow.....

You haven't yet answered...Who did you vote for?