Planet Fitness Drops Member After Gender Identity Complaint

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PF has no problem with the female clients being uncomfortably naked in the presence of a person who is biologically and physically a man, as long as it is PC. Any woman who is uncomfortable undressing in the presence of a strange man should join a gym, and there are several, that takes their uncomfortableness them into consideration.

But there wasn't a "strange man" in the women's locker room. There were only women.

just because a man mentally thinks he is a woman does not make him a woman. If a schizophrenic thinks he is doctor does that make him a doctor even if he had never attended college. I get that transgender is some form of mental disorder, just like i get that schizophrenia is a mental disorder. Both requires treatment.

The American Psychiatric Association (aka the association of people who are actually medically qualified to define and diagnose mental disorders) disagrees with you:

A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people who experience intense, persistent gender incongruence can be given the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria." Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated. Others argue that it is essential to retain the diagnosis to ensure access to care. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is under revision and there may be changes to its current classification of intense persistent gender incongruence as "gender identity disorder."

http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PF has no problem with the female clients being uncomfortably naked in the presence of a person who is biologically and physically a man, as long as it is PC. Any woman who is uncomfortable undressing in the presence of a strange man should join a gym, and there are several, that takes their uncomfortableness them into consideration.

But there wasn't a "strange man" in the women's locker room. There were only women.

just because a man mentally thinks he is a woman does not make him a woman. If a schizophrenic thinks he is doctor does that make him a doctor even if he had never attended college. I get that transgender is some form of mental disorder, just like i get that schizophrenia is a mental disorder. Both requires treatment.

And what treatment or cure would you suggest for somebody who is transgender? My personal favorite treatment is hormone replacement therapy and acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Like transgendered, Many schizophrenics don't see their illness as disabling or distressful and don't believe they have a mental illness. One has a big lobbying fund, the other does not. The one with lobbyist have spent billions to influence others to make it acceptable and POlitically Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like transgendered, Many schizophrenics don't see their illness as disabling or distressful and don't believe they have a mental illness. One has a big lobbying fund, the other does not. The one with lobbyist have spent billions to influence others to make it acceptable and POlitically Correct.

Ah yes, the all-powerful, deep-pocketed Transgender Lobbying Association, before which all politicians tremble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm transgender (MtF) and have been thinking of doing an AMA for awhile. Do you think people here would be interested? (And somewhat polite? I really don't want to be attacked for opening up about who I am.)

I would love to read it but people will probably be really mean to you.

Do it. Make VERY LIBERAL use of the report button and ask allies to do the same. Perhaps warn Jeff in Website Feedback before/when you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like transgendered, Many schizophrenics don't see their illness as disabling or distressful and don't believe they have a mental illness. One has a big lobbying fund, the other does not. The one with lobbyist have spent billions to influence others to make it acceptable and POlitically Correct.

Ah yes, the all-powerful, deep-pocketed Transgender Lobbying Association, before which all politicians tremble.

[Anonymous]

Gyms should have a unisex bathroom, one stall with a shower, for transgenders.
Problem solved!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gyms should have a unisex bathroom, one stall with a shower, for transgenders.
Problem solved!

Separate but equal solves the problem?

[Anonymous]

Planet Fitness is $20 a month, 24 hours a day, with no contract, no cancellation fees, and no showy grunters. I love it.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Put your words into action, if you support transgenders have sex, date or marry one. Didn't think so you all are hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PF has no problem with the female clients being uncomfortably naked in the presence of a person who is biologically and physically a man, as long as it is PC. Any woman who is uncomfortable undressing in the presence of a strange man should join a gym, and there are several, that takes their uncomfortableness them into consideration.

But there wasn't a "strange man" in the women's locker room. There were only women.

just because a man mentally thinks he is a woman does not make him a woman. If a schizophrenic thinks he is doctor does that make him a doctor even if he had never attended college. I get that transgender is some form of mental disorder, just like i get that schizophrenia is a mental disorder. Both requires treatment.

Experts don't consider it a disorder. Considering how unbelievably the complex the body and especially the brain are, it stands to reason that just a slight variation here or there could make a person innately feel s/he is a particular gender, even if it doesn't match their sex organs. That's not a disorder. That's a difference. And since it hurts no one, what is the big deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Put your words into action, if you support transgenders have sex, date or marry one. Didn't think so you all are hypocrites.

If I loved the person? Of course I would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I will not be joining Planet Fitness.

A gender neutral changing room is in order. Simple as that. And I'm sure the transgendered wouldn't mind that either.

The term is transgender, not "transgendered." I don't think you're in a position to assume what someone who is transgender would or would not mind. They can probably speak for themselves.

Policing other people's language is the epitome of arrogance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Put your words into action, if you support transgenders have sex, date or marry one. Didn't think so you all are hypocrites.

Hmmm, I love my dad, but I don't do those things with him. I love my kids. I love my best friend who is the same gender as I am and quite straight like me. I'm pretty sure I can love someone and support them without having sex with them, dating them, or marrying them.

Nice try though.