Planet Fitness Drops Member After Gender Identity Complaint

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I will not be joining Planet Fitness.
A gender neutral changing room is in order. Simple as that. And I'm sure the transgendered wouldn't mind that either.


The term is transgender, not "transgendered." I don't think you're in a position to assume what someone who is transgender would or would not mind. They can probably speak for themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I will not be joining Planet Fitness.
A gender neutral changing room is in order. Simple as that. And I'm sure the transgendered wouldn't mind that either.


Yes - because a business MUST cater to a tiny fraction of society.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an aside, how could a company spell its motto wrong?!!!!! Judgment in the US is spelled without an E. I could never go there. I would be irritated everyday.

Signed,
The Grammar Police
LOL!! Good one!


Both are accepted spellings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I will not be joining Planet Fitness.
A gender neutral changing room is in order. Simple as that. And I'm sure the transgendered wouldn't mind that either.


Yes - because a business MUST cater to a tiny fraction of society.
I should've prefaced by saying I actually agree with you about not joining Planet Fitness until they get gender neutral rooms. It's about comfort for EVERYONE involved. I, personally, would have felt very, very uncomfortable if I found a man in the changing room. I could less than a good damn what anyone thinks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an aside, how could a company spell its motto wrong?!!!!! Judgment in the US is spelled without an E. I could never go there. I would be irritated everyday.

Signed,
The Grammar Police
LOL!! Good one!


Both are accepted spellings.


Not the pp - but tell my freshman college English professor that.
While the spelling with an “e” is accepted, it is not preferred. I got graded down on a paper for that spelling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?
This is not about lesbians. It is about a physically appearing man in a women's restroom/changing room. Good for you that you can distinguish between a transgendered male and a man who's intent might be dubious. You are well above the rest of us and have truly evolved. Most women can't. Congratulations for being heads and tails above the rest of us. We bow to you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?


I bet Ted Bundy’s victims would not agree with you. That is, if they were alive to talk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I will not be joining Planet Fitness.
A gender neutral changing room is in order. Simple as that. And I'm sure the transgendered wouldn't mind that either.


Yes - because a business MUST cater to a tiny fraction of society.
I should've prefaced by saying I actually agree with you about not joining Planet Fitness until they get gender neutral rooms. It's about comfort for EVERYONE involved. I, personally, would have felt very, very uncomfortable if I found a man in the changing room. I could less than a good damn what anyone thinks.


That would jack up the $10 a month membership fee. No thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was because she was going around complaining to other patrons after the policy had been explained to her.

The no judgement policy is plastered all over the walls, in 3'-5' letters. They deny memberships to super muscular people. They have a lunk alarm, and use it if someone is perceived as showing off. How did she not know about the no judgement policy?!


"No judgement" yet they judge anyone who is actually fit? Discrimination against "super muscular" people?


They don't even have equipment for the super muscular. Dead lifts are not allowed. They have no long bars outside of the smith machines. This place is geared toward those starting out. With a Gold's on every corner, how many more gyms like that are needed?

I am female and life weights. I absolutely hate the muscular dudes interrupting my workout to "show" me how to do something. They come over and stare at their own muscles on the piece of equipment I'm trying to use. I think all they want is an audience. If PF had better weights, I'd be over there in a heartbeat. Their patrons are chill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?
This is not about lesbians. It is about a physically appearing man in a women's restroom/changing room. Good for you that you can distinguish between a transgendered male and a man who's intent might be dubious. You are well above the rest of us and have truly evolved. Most women can't. Congratulations for being heads and tails above the rest of us. We bow to you.

PP again. I also think that if someone KNOWS a male is transgendered, the threat is most likely removed. However, a male in a public women's room is going to raise suspicion whether you like it or not. Nothing to do with evolving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?


I bet Ted Bundy’s victims would not agree with you. That is, if they were alive to talk.


Ok, what? You go from not trusting transgender people, and comparing the predicament of sharing a locker room with them to serial killers? Good god I can't wait till the dinosaurs die off already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?
This is not about lesbians. It is about a physically appearing man in a women's restroom/changing room. Good for you that you can distinguish between a transgendered male and a man who's intent might be dubious. You are well above the rest of us and have truly evolved. Most women can't. Congratulations for being heads and tails above the rest of us. We bow to you.


Sorry, I'm not understanding you and your obsession with physical appearances. I've known some feminine looking males, and masculine looking females. I'm simply not in the business of checking out people in the locker room - but maybe you are? As long as people are minding their own business, I don't understand the problem. You sound hysterical and paranoid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.


I'm shocked to see someone wear crocs - doesn't give me the right to dictate where they can and cannot go.

If the person isn't harming you (and simply by existing, a transgender person isn't harming you), then you need to get over your weird hangups or make your own changes.

And no, the person was not a man, but a transgender woman. Most educated people know that gender resides in the brain; but dinosaurs generally aren't very bright.
You cannot read someone's mind to know they are transgender. People go by sight especially if a transgender is visually male. Most educated and non-educated people perceive visually. That's a fact.



Who is this "people" you're talking about?

Thankfully, humanity is evolving regarding antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality.
Oh, please. Most women are going to high tail it out of a restroom or changing room if they see a 'man' in there. I would tell my teen girls to get out as quickly as possible as you can't be sure. What? Are they supposed to stop and have a conversation about the evolution of antiquated ideas about gender and sexuality with a strange man in the bathroom?


No. But maybe you could be a parent and talk to them about having greater empathy and understanding.

I think most women - including myself - can distinguish between someone minding their own business, and a creep. And that includes other women in the locker room getting obsessed with the genitals of the people in there.

Honest question - where do you think lesbians should change or go to the bathroom?
This is not about lesbians. It is about a physically appearing man in a women's restroom/changing room. Good for you that you can distinguish between a transgendered male and a man who's intent might be dubious. You are well above the rest of us and have truly evolved. Most women can't. Congratulations for being heads and tails above the rest of us. We bow to you.

PP again. I also think that if someone KNOWS a male is transgendered, the threat is most likely removed. However, a male in a public women's room is going to raise suspicion whether you like it or not. Nothing to do with evolving.


The term is not "transgendered," it's transgender. If you expect others to disclose their medical history with you before working out, I expect you'll do the same and make your medical history public knowledge.
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