It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later. |
It becomes obvious when you see families with 3+ kids attend 1-3T HS and all kids go on to attend Harvard afterwards. |
What the heck are you taking about? We're talking about TT schools vs non-TT schools (or in PP's example, Brearley vs. suburban public); not Brearley vs. Trinity. The colleges absolutely know the difference between Brearley and Dwight (in a prior given example) or Brearley vs. NJ public school. |
Yeah, everyone unhooked who goes to a TT private is a sucker with no chance for college success. Sure sure. That makes total sense. |
As an example, Odd Mom Out. |
Many bright unhooked kids from NYC TT and non-TT privates apply ED to Chicago or Cornell. It’s the safest strategy recommended by many college counsellors (including at HM) and it gets the applicant to a top college. Shooting for HYP without legacy is a lottery with a low chance of success. |
Great example. Her kid is going to Harvard from Grace. Seems to be the only Harvard admit from Grace this year. |
Double Harvard legacies don’t send their kids to Dwight, they get scooped up by TTs. HYP doesn’t care if the bball recruit went to Dwight or a TT, they’ll get in regardless. For HYP from privates, it is hooked 99% of the time. The college counselors and curriculum have nothing to do with it |
If you think (like many do) that going to a TT helps when applying to HYP you’re mistaken. Many find this out senior spring. |
Bingo. If you want HYP unhooked go to SHSAT or be a star at T2 |
Yep. Seriously, out of the 5-10 going to one of HYP in a given year from a particular TT, only one student, at most two, will be unhooked. There is no incentive for HYP to take any unhooked applicant from these schools. They already have a ton of bright hooked applicants and want to take applicants from non-TTs too. |
| I was told by an admin at Brearley that if your kid wasn't a legacy at a HYP, and your heart was dead set on a HYP, you would do better to leave and do high school elsewhere, because the legacies have first dibs, especially the very wealthy ones, and that people without those connects rarely get in from the school. Who knows if it was true, but its what they said. |
It’s true. If Harvard admitted eight legacies, an athlete, and a FGLI applicant all from one school, why admit an unhooked applicant on top? There’s way too many qualified applicants across the country to justify it and no, college counselors at private schools don’t have “pull” with colleges at this level. More like they call Colby and broker you. |
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On the other hand, if unhooked students are not set on HYP and are looking for high quality education and a top college (and Chicago and Cornell are both top colleges), TT schools would be a logical choice.
FWIW, as a completely unhooked parent, I would be very happy with DC going to Cornell or Chicago. The program is they seem to want MIT which takes ED out of the equation and turns the whole process into an absolute nightmare. |
MIT is hard from privates (perhaps harder than from the SHSAT schools?), the all-girls TT schools including Brearley barely send 1 most years (I was told "it's not even on the radar for our students"). I think HM sent 3 last year, so it's doable for dedicated kids and at least you are not competing with the legacies. |