That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding. The TTs are still obviously doing quite well. |
Trinity TBD. Unless anyone has additional datapoints not on the Instagram page. |
AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school. |
There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools. |
Well, Brearley is killing it this year wrt HYP, while HM/Trinity are just doing ok. Do you think it's the school and not the demographic? |
Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school? |
No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges. |
When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere |
Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not. |
Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked. |
Squash isn't a hook more than any other sport. Very few spots and a lot of them are international. Lots of disappointed tiger moms. |
| Does fencing have more spots? I swear every other kid does fencing but I can’t even imagine there are that many spots? |
| 8 from Brearley to Harvard out of a class of 64. I don't care what's causing it; 1/8 of the class going to Harvard is remarkable. |
The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer. |
If you think HYP is differentiating between B and Trinity and saying the former has better students so they must accept more, you’re delusional. B just had richer connected parents or FGLI or sports recruits in a given year. Nothing more nothing less |