ripple effects from government employment/contracting uncertainty in DMV economy?

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

Throwing a body at a problem does not necessarily correct or cure the problem, regardless of the good intentions. Every person simply because of their education is not fit to teach. I count myself in that group. Tutoring my DC was frustrating because my patience runs thin. People with children who are not fast learners would be at a true disadvantage with me as their instructor. I am sure I am not the only person with this deficiency, but yet I imagine such people will pivot into that profession on an economic downside.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone in the DMV realizes that these government layoffs are going to cause people in the private sector and small businesses to lose jobs too. If you have ever lived in a factory town when the factory closes, all businesses go down too.

Good luck with your property values.

There will be pain but we will sacrifice for the greater good.

You won't survive this sacrifice, you are not special. Something has to change to what's going on, and at some point even the biggest fans of DOGE will start questioning when new jobs will be created and all the prosperity they are promised will start trickling down to them. So far proposed budget is going to add to national debt too.. let's find out where they are planning to spend and how this will benefit you.

I’ll be fine. Not at all worried. My kids and their kids will be fine. Already taken care of from real work.

As for the other aspects you mentioned, I wish you all had thought of that before you spent decades looting the treasury.

Who looted the Treasury. Seriously, what ARE you talking an out? All these Trumpers thinking their work in the private sector somehow is legitimate over government workers is laughable. Unless you are a doctor, you and your work really aren’t that special.

Government workers help you get a passport, process social security payments or make sure Exxon is punished for spilling oil all over Alaska. While you do what exactly? Are there unnecessary programs, sure? But the vast majority are good and government workers work hard. Your inability to understand this shows a lack of critical thinking. My husband and I have never worked for the government but appreciate their work. My husband works in banking and while he isn’t in favor of some of the regulations there, he recognizes the importance of the CPFB. He has had a front row seat to the predatory lending and its impact on the lower socioeconomic class. The class that Trumpers pretend to champion. But in reality don’t give an F about.

I see I'm dealing with the kind of low information voter who has not been falling the news and seen the extraordinary waste being exposed.

Any waste comes from policy decisions. Not what generic government workers are doing.

Vilifying all Feds is just as bad as vilifying all cops. Same hysterical, mindless mob behavior based on feelings. Just occurring on the opposite of the political spectrum.

Come up with an informed way to cut waste. You'd have yourself a bipartisan issue.

No one is vilifying all Feds. It's mostly waste to the NGOs and non-profit orgs with bloated executive salaries who think everyone should subsidize their lives that drives people who work for a living to be so upset.

I don't even mind the That's Not My Jobs and the I'm on My Breaks at the DMV.

Wow- you must not live in VA. Those folks hustle. I’ve been impressed every time I’ve set foot in there over the last 20 years just now quickly I got out with what I needed. Last time was a Saturday morning and the REAL ID was in the mail by Monday. Any other transaction has been nearly instantaneous.

Granted, you do need to read what is required before you show up. But if you put in a modicum of time and have a third grade level of reading comprehension, it’s a pretty quick process. I’ve waited longer in lines at Safeway.

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It won’t be 2008 again. I doubt we will notice much at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

Throwing a body at a problem does not necessarily correct or cure the problem, regardless of the good intentions. Every person simply because of their education is not fit to teach. I count myself in that group. Tutoring my DC was frustrating because my patience runs thin. People with children who are not fast learners would be at a true disadvantage with me as their instructor. I am sure I am not the only person with this deficiency, but yet I imagine such people will pivot into that profession on an economic downside.

Putting aside the fact that teaching is a profession that requires a specialized skill and a certain personality type- where do the PPs think all these teaching jobs are going to come from?

Current staffing levels are based on current budgets. The lunatics are already hard at work killing the DOE. And when the poop hits the fan and the local economies go to total crap, school funding will get cut along with everything else. The Boomers as a generation are just fine putting 40 mixed needs kids in a kindergarten class if it shaves a few bucks off their property tax bills.

During the last recession, many teachers lost their jobs and an entire generation of new teachers never got jobs (my sibling is one of them - she never recovered). It’s probably one of the major reasons we have a shortage today. But like I said- not for long once the budgets start getting cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

Are you serious? For an awful low paying job? No thanks.

It takes years of training and money for credentials to get certified to teach. I don't see the Trump admin offering re-skilling of workers. The DMV economy is going to go into a tailspin as Trump guts agencies. For every federal worker, there's likely 3 or 4 businesses with contractors/vendors/service providers who will suffer as their agencies are decimated. We are a one-fed household and are already cutting back on summer camps for the kids, travel plans, kid activities, gym membership and non-essential but smart to have home repairs. We'll also cancel our 2x monthly cleaner and curtail restaurant spending. And that's just the beginning. If this continued destruction of the federal government continues, we'll eventually sell our home in the not so far away burbs, and move somewhere far cheaper with one parent having a hella long commute.

Not in Florida. You only need to be a military veteran to teach in the public schools. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

Are you serious? For an awful low paying job? No thanks.

It takes years of training and money for credentials to get certified to teach. I don't see the Trump admin offering re-skilling of workers. The DMV economy is going to go into a tailspin as Trump guts agencies. For every federal worker, there's likely 3 or 4 businesses with contractors/vendors/service providers who will suffer as their agencies are decimated. We are a one-fed household and are already cutting back on summer camps for the kids, travel plans, kid activities, gym membership and non-essential but smart to have home repairs. We'll also cancel our 2x monthly cleaner and curtail restaurant spending. And that's just the beginning. If this continued destruction of the federal government continues, we'll eventually sell our home in the not so far away burbs, and move somewhere far cheaper with one parent having a hella long commute.

Not in Florida. You only need to be a military veteran to teach in the public schools. Ridiculous.

Yes, and it’s quite obvious judging the quality of their outputs. Turns out the skills to shoot Muslims and educate 5-year olds are very different.

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crossing-posting an announcement from FCPS that was in the jobs forum:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1257674.page

Advertising FCPS job opportunities to federal employees in its latest weekly newsletter - job fair on Wednesday.

Looking for job opportunities or a career path supporting education? Join us on Wednesday, February 19, from 6-7:30 p.m., for a job and career information fair.

FCPS offers a wealth of opportunities for professionals transitioning from federal and state government roles into the public education sector. A dedication to public service could make you a strong candidate for both educational and operational positions. By joining FCPS, you can continue making a meaningful impact while embarking on a new career in public education.

If you hold a bachelor’s degree, you can become provisionally licensed to teach in just a few weeks. Beyond teaching, FCPS offers a variety of operational roles in departments such as finance, human resources, safety and security, food service, transportation, and facilities.

FCPS Superintendent Dr. Michelle Reid will open the information session. Chief Human Resources Officer William Solomon and other FCPS HR leaders will talk about all the exciting opportunities available at the school division. Attendees can visit tables where they can learn more about open positions, as well as salary, benefits, and retirement plans.

Learn more about the job and career fair and employment opportunities with FCPS. A registration link and information on the location are coming soon. https://www.fcps.edu/transition-to-fcp

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Anonymous wrote:This new EO will complete destroy the economy in the DC metro and the US at large. Requiring that agencies get rid of 4 employees for every 1 employee they hire. This rule basically mandates that government agencies reduce their staff by 8% each year. In combination with mass scale RIFs you are easily looking at a 30-50% decline in the federal workforce. In combination with the proposed budget cuts of 250 billion per year, you are looking at job losses in excess of 3 million people for the US. This does not even consider the spillover effects of employed people cutting back on spending due to lower consumer confidence. It will be an unmitigated economic disaster that is completely self inflicted.

Curious though how many of the 2MM feds in total are impacted.

This EO excludes any agencies dealing with security and immigration…so excludes border agents, ICE, TSA, probably a decent amount of FBI (they may replace agents but doesn’t sound like they will be reduced), assume Himeland is excluded, assume NSA and CIA excluded (again they may replace CIA agents but not sure there will be less).

Then you have air traffic control which needs to hire people, USPS (I guess they could reduce this) and then VA hospitals and the people administering VA benefits (VA and benefits is 600,000 federal workers alone).

So seems like all of the above are easily 1 MM employees if not more.

They are pretending to care about the VA and national defense but they fully intend to cut these jobs as well. They are making people that were hired remotely ( in the VA and DoD) and have worked remotely for years RTO (who don’t live within 300 miles of their office) RTO. The administration is using COVID era occupancy data to justify eliminating half of the federal office portfolio while simultaneously requiring everyone to go back 5 days a week. Most agencies don’t have room for their employees to work from the office 5 days a week, if they eliminate 50% of the existing offices. Telework has been a thing for two decades in many gov agencies and they procured office spaces under the assumption that most employees would be in the office around 3 days a week. There is literally no space for 100% RTO. The plan is to eliminate at least 50% of the federal workforce if the GSA is requiring agencies to reduce the office portfolio by 50%. They are probably targeting closer to 75% reductions, they don’t care if the government functions at all and they are actively trying to destroy it.

Literally no jobs are safe from this plan to slash and burn the entire government. Good luck getting your social security or Medicare benefits. There won’t be anyone to make sure benefits are paid if you fire almost all of the employees.

This is my concern. I put in retirement papers earlier than I originally planned. Initially I was going to wait until the end of the year, but said nope, I know longer care and put in my papers. Question is who will be around to effectively and timely process the paperwork for my pension payments. How long before the first direct deposit?

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Anonymous wrote:This new EO will complete destroy the economy in the DC metro and the US at large. Requiring that agencies get rid of 4 employees for every 1 employee they hire. This rule basically mandates that government agencies reduce their staff by 8% each year. In combination with mass scale RIFs you are easily looking at a 30-50% decline in the federal workforce. In combination with the proposed budget cuts of 250 billion per year, you are looking at job losses in excess of 3 million people for the US. This does not even consider the spillover effects of employed people cutting back on spending due to lower consumer confidence. It will be an unmitigated economic disaster that is completely self inflicted.

This is a declaration of war on the middle class - coming after the tech layoffs over the past two years, flooding the market with experienced and credentialed white collar workers who were (in many agencies) underpaid will stagnate salaries for twenty years.

Most of y’all aren’t qualified for a real job. Hope you can learn a trade.

+1. Everyone complaining should try working a real job like being a plumber. There are plenty of job openings. Plus you just may enjoy it -- much more fulfilling and respectable than sitting at a desk typing "reports" and doing emails for a living.

Interesting you mention the trade workers. The federal government has thousands of trade workers littered all around the country. My agency employs welders, pipe fitters, plumbers, water linemen, mechanics, electricians, and others. Those people were also sent the fork in the road early resignation letters. Musky and his herd are just doing scorched earth without any thought in the jobs people do. the nuclear scientist jobs was the perfect example.

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Anonymous wrote:This new EO will complete destroy the economy in the DC metro and the US at large. Requiring that agencies get rid of 4 employees for every 1 employee they hire. This rule basically mandates that government agencies reduce their staff by 8% each year. In combination with mass scale RIFs you are easily looking at a 30-50% decline in the federal workforce. In combination with the proposed budget cuts of 250 billion per year, you are looking at job losses in excess of 3 million people for the US. This does not even consider the spillover effects of employed people cutting back on spending due to lower consumer confidence. It will be an unmitigated economic disaster that is completely self inflicted.

This is a declaration of war on the middle class - coming after the tech layoffs over the past two years, flooding the market with experienced and credentialed white collar workers who were (in many agencies) underpaid will stagnate salaries for twenty years.

Most of y’all aren’t qualified for a real job. Hope you can learn a trade.

I went to YouTube University and learned a DIY for an issue I would have called a plumber to do a year ago. A plumber would have charged $200 just to show up and then an additional $200 to $300 to fix the problem. I was able to do it for the parts and my time on YouTube. YouTube is a blessing and people have been gauged for years

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Anonymous wrote:It won’t be 2008 again. I doubt we will notice much at all.

That's what they said in 2008.

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Anonymous wrote:It won’t be 2008 again. I doubt we will notice much at all.

That's what they said in 2008.

No, it will be much worse. We will be too deep in it to pause and compare.

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

I have a PhD in engineering and would never teach your degenerate crotch demons. I'd rather work at Costco. Your kids lack any semblance of discipline. I'd probably fired on Day 1 anyway for smashing their cellphone they were using during class. Even if I made it to month 6, I'd probably be fired for giving them a real math test that'd expose how terrible they really are, and I'd have zero qualms about giving entire classes Fs and making them repeat grades.

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Anonymous wrote:This new EO will complete destroy the economy in the DC metro and the US at large. Requiring that agencies get rid of 4 employees for every 1 employee they hire. This rule basically mandates that government agencies reduce their staff by 8% each year. In combination with mass scale RIFs you are easily looking at a 30-50% decline in the federal workforce. In combination with the proposed budget cuts of 250 billion per year, you are looking at job losses in excess of 3 million people for the US. This does not even consider the spillover effects of employed people cutting back on spending due to lower consumer confidence. It will be an unmitigated economic disaster that is completely self inflicted.

This is a declaration of war on the middle class - coming after the tech layoffs over the past two years, flooding the market with experienced and credentialed white collar workers who were (in many agencies) underpaid will stagnate salaries for twenty years.

Most of y’all aren’t qualified for a real job. Hope you can learn a trade.

+1. Everyone complaining should try working a real job like being a plumber. There are plenty of job openings. Plus you just may enjoy it -- much more fulfilling and respectable than sitting at a desk typing "reports" and doing emails for a living.

Interesting you mention the trade workers. The federal government has thousands of trade workers littered all around the country. My agency employs welders, pipe fitters, plumbers, water linemen, mechanics, electricians, and others. Those people were also sent the fork in the road early resignation letters. Musky and his herd are just doing scorched earth without any thought in the jobs people do. the nuclear scientist jobs was the perfect example.

My friend's husband is an HVAC supervisor for NIH. He was a probationary employee. Almost done his two year probation. Sometime in March I think. Fired.

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

I have a PhD in engineering and would never teach your degenerate crotch demons. I'd rather work at Costco. Your kids lack any semblance of discipline. I'd probably fired on Day 1 anyway for smashing their cellphone they were using during class. Even if I made it to month 6, I'd probably be fired for giving them a real math test that'd expose how terrible they really are, and I'd have zero qualms about giving entire classes Fs and making them repeat grades.

I like you.

~Mom of high school senior. The schools are chaos.