ripple effects from government employment/contracting uncertainty in DMV economy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Make those folks get a teaching certificate and get them into schools to teach. teaching shortage and especially of people in STEAM subjects.

I have a PhD in engineering and would never teach your degenerate crotch demons. I'd rather work at Costco. Your kids lack any semblance of discipline. I'd probably fired on Day 1 anyway for smashing their cellphone they were using during class. Even if I made it to month 6, I'd probably be fired for giving them a real math test that'd expose how terrible they really are, and I'd have zero qualms about giving entire classes Fs and making them repeat grades.

but tell us how you really feel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

yiiiiikes. Look, I don't think that anything that's happening is good, but people are going to be unemployed, and they need to find jobs even in the near term. School districts often have programs that enable people with BAs to do on-the-job training, and there is a teacher shortage.

Yes please share with us the MCPS job postings other than for substitute teacher that are looking for entirely uncredentialed people

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

This. The ripple effect of the destruction of so much federal employment and the adjacent contractors is likely going to be massive. Many people aren’t going to stick around in high cost districts like MoCo without good jobs. They’ll move further out or out of state completely

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

yiiiiikes. Look, I don't think that anything that's happening is good, but people are going to be unemployed, and they need to find jobs even in the near term. School districts often have programs that enable people with BAs to do on-the-job training, and there is a teacher shortage.

Yes please share with us the MCPS job postings other than for substitute teacher that are looking for entirely uncredentialed people

DCPS was posted above. There’s more than McPS in the area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

This. The ripple effect of the destruction of so much federal employment and the adjacent contractors is likely going to be massive. Many people aren’t going to stick around in high cost districts like MoCo without good jobs. They’ll move further out or out of state completely

No jobs for anyone! Wake up people! Destruction of MoCo imminent! Buy your bunker or move to your beach house!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

yiiiiikes. Look, I don't think that anything that's happening is good, but people are going to be unemployed, and they need to find jobs even in the near term. School districts often have programs that enable people with BAs to do on-the-job training, and there is a teacher shortage.

You're offering bad advice. Education funding is reliant on the local economy. Telling people to invest money, time and energy to become teachers only to get laid off shortly afterwards is dumb. If someone thinks teaching would be a good fit for them in the longer term sure, maybe if they can't stay in the area they could find a teaching job somewhere else. But people could change to any number of careers somewhere else.

well if they are going to be priced out of the area anyway, might as well get a teaching certificate in the meantime. they can take the skills with them.

What other careers can you think of that are in high demand and have a national shortfall, that would provide a middle-class income? trust that feds are looking for these now.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/fastest-growing.htm

Useful info, thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

yiiiiikes. Look, I don't think that anything that's happening is good, but people are going to be unemployed, and they need to find jobs even in the near term. School districts often have programs that enable people with BAs to do on-the-job training, and there is a teacher shortage.

You're offering bad advice. Education funding is reliant on the local economy. Telling people to invest money, time and energy to become teachers only to get laid off shortly afterwards is dumb. If someone thinks teaching would be a good fit for them in the longer term sure, maybe if they can't stay in the area they could find a teaching job somewhere else. But people could change to any number of careers somewhere else.

well if they are going to be priced out of the area anyway, might as well get a teaching certificate in the meantime. they can take the skills with them.

What other careers can you think of that are in high demand and have a national shortfall, that would provide a middle-class income? trust that feds are looking for these now.

Interesting idea, PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

This. The ripple effect of the destruction of so much federal employment and the adjacent contractors is likely going to be massive. Many people aren’t going to stick around in high cost districts like MoCo without good jobs. They’ll move further out or out of state completely

No jobs for anyone! Wake up people! Destruction of MoCo imminent! Buy your bunker or move to your beach house!

Ok, you go ahead and invest heavily into a career change to teaching in the hopes it will help you pay your mortgage on your house that will soon be underwater.

[Anonymous]

One guy on LinkedIn theorized that for every 150 federal jobs lost in North Carolina, there are "induced effects" from loss of spending that will reduce private sector jobs by 30.

I do wonder about cool little casual restaurants that have good lunch business around here. I used to meet a friend for lunch on Thursdays, our common telework day. Won't be able to do that as she returns to the office. No need for me to go spend at a restaurant when I generally work through lunch at home. Doesn't sound like much, but I assume there will be larger ripple effects like this in our region.

[Anonymous]

There will be massive ripple effects but not sure why people think it will be limited to MoCo. It's not like Amazon will save NoVa, and DOGE is apparently descending on the defense department this week. In addition, Fairfax, Arlington, and MoCo all have roughly the same percentages of federal workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why anyone is suggesting people become teachers. MCPS is going to get hit hard by the loss of federal funding and lower tax dollars. It's going to get ugly. And I suspect a lot of people are going to leave the area so lower enrollment.

only 3.4% of MCPS budget comes from federal government.

A job is a job. A job with some sort of mission (like teaching) is something that is probably attractive to fed employees who have already accepted lower salaries for a mission.

You don't get it. Tax revenues for Montgomery County are going to crater. Just watch the unemployment numbers in a couple of months. Then the housing market will crash and the foreclosures will start. People will leave the area. MCPS will lay off the last people the hired first. I would not recommend anybody invest time and resources to get change careers and get certified as a teacher on the expectation of being employed in this area.

This. The ripple effect of the destruction of so much federal employment and the adjacent contractors is likely going to be massive. Many people aren’t going to stick around in high cost districts like MoCo without good jobs. They’ll move further out or out of state completely

No jobs for anyone! Wake up people! Destruction of MoCo imminent! Buy your bunker or move to your beach house!

Ok, you go ahead and invest heavily into a career change to teaching in the hopes it will help you pay your mortgage on your house that will soon be underwater.

What do you do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope everyone in the DMV realizes that these government layoffs are going to cause people in the private sector and small businesses to lose jobs too. If you have ever lived in a factory town when the factory closes, all businesses go down too.

Good luck with your property values.

There will be pain but we will sacrifice for the greater good.

You won't survive this sacrifice, you are not special. Something has to change to what's going on, and at some point even the biggest fans of DOGE will start questioning when new jobs will be created and all the prosperity they are promised will start trickling down to them. So far proposed budget is going to add to national debt too.. let's find out where they are planning to spend and how this will benefit you.

I’ll be fine. Not at all worried. My kids and their kids will be fine. Already taken care of from real work.

As for the other aspects you mentioned, I wish you all had thought of that before you spent decades looting the treasury.

So you are really fine with Trump increasing the national debt by 4.5 trillion dollars to cover tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Blaming other administrations when Trump is stealing from Americans out in the open is getting tiring.

[Anonymous]

of possible use, here's MD's page for resources for laid-off feds: https://www.dllr.state.md.us/federalworkers/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There will be massive ripple effects but not sure why people think it will be limited to MoCo. It's not like Amazon will save NoVa, and DOGE is apparently descending on the defense department this week. In addition, Fairfax, Arlington, and MoCo all have roughly the same percentages of federal workers.

If you isolate for the private sector - not Feds, not state employees, not charitable organization employees - Maryland has the lowest private sector job growth of any state except Oregon. It is going to get dire here real quick. A lot of us have been warning about this for a while. But everyone kept on voting in sloppy progressives with policies that scared away business owners and people with money who actually contribute to the tax base. Now you’re going to reap what you sowed. Hope all that virtue signaling was worth it when we can’t even afford to fund any social services anymore.

[Anonymous]

I think that there will be some initial pain, but it will shake itself out by the end of the year. The fact is that a lot of people can't move for many reasons (i.e. either underwater on their mortgage or refinanced to an incredibly low interest rate). Also, while many feds are losing their jobs right now, DC is still the center of US government (i.e. White House, Capitol Building, etc.). Private companies are still investing in this area. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if foreign governments start scooping up the real estate in this area.
During COVID, when many federal workers were laid off for not getting the jab, we didn't see a huge recession. I definitely think that the clean up of the federal government was long over due (i.e. did we really need to pay for Sesame Street in Iran) - BUT I wish that the downsizing of the government was done in phases (i.e. maybe start with the truly low performing employees or removing those who personally were involved in causing waste or corruption - since the vast majority of feds probably had no clue what was going on).