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Anonymous wrote:I see a potential rise in black students staying in southern institutions. No reason to go to a 5% black environment when you can just head to Georgia tech.


I am an Asian American and I have attended elementary, middle and high school with fewer than 5% Asians. College, graduate school and law school were all fewer than 5% Asians. My place of employment all my life had fewer than 5% Asians. My neighborhoods all had fewer than 5% Asians. Not because I intentionally chose such environment but that was how demographics were.

I know of many Asians who had to face this challenge all their lives as well. I never complained about having too few Asians and other Asians I know do not complain. What is the difference between Asians attending schools with fewer than 5% Asians and blacks attending schools with fewer than 5% blacks? Blacks can complain and whites pretend they care and Asians should not even dare complain since media will completely ignore any complaints by Asians.

There are many Asian Americans in your position, who do choose to go to more Asian-friendly environments every single year though….

“Blacks can complain”, meanwhile all we hear from Asian Americans all year round here is complaints and they STILL have complaints post AA and have a goal of being the majority population of every institution without merit, because they think they are inherently smarter than everyone else. Give me a break.


You and your kids are free to compete

They did this past year and won. I’m not too worried about them competing with Asian Americans lol. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the talent in China or Japan.


Won in what?


Making basketball and football team?
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I think the Asian people on here saying not fair is embarrassing and distasteful. I don't experience discrimination and feel that Asians are well accepted by white people. Even if we are excelling at academics there is no reason to rub it in.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LMFAO. no. smart white kids are not scared by asians. the ivies and other top-15 universities will remain the schools with all the cache because those schools have the highest percent of smart kids. the smartest kids want to study with other brilliant kids, regardless of race, and many of them prefer racial diversity and enjoy meeting similar students from all over the world. A high percent of internationalism is something unique to the ivy/+ branding of said schools: they draw brilliance from everywhere. The cache is not going to magically move to schools that do not have top global reputations, which globally is based on Nobel-level faculty or grads, research, and smarts of the students. None of the weird BS equity markers the USNews ranking over-elevated last fall.


If you can't spell "cachet" maybe you don't know much about it.


NP but why is it when someone on here can’t address the issue they seize upon on typo out of a very long post as some kind of checkmate? Just seems so desperately disingenuous


NP but maybe because it's not a typo. It's a tell that you're a moron, kind of like chewing with your mouth open or wafting your own farts.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
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Anonymous wrote:I see a potential rise in black students staying in southern institutions. No reason to go to a 5% black environment when you can just head to Georgia tech.


I am an Asian American and I have attended elementary, middle and high school with fewer than 5% Asians. College, graduate school and law school were all fewer than 5% Asians. My place of employment all my life had fewer than 5% Asians. My neighborhoods all had fewer than 5% Asians. Not because I intentionally chose such environment but that was how demographics were.

I know of many Asians who had to face this challenge all their lives as well. I never complained about having too few Asians and other Asians I know do not complain. What is the difference between Asians attending schools with fewer than 5% Asians and blacks attending schools with fewer than 5% blacks? Blacks can complain and whites pretend they care and Asians should not even dare complain since media will completely ignore any complaints by Asians.

There are many Asian Americans in your position, who do choose to go to more Asian-friendly environments every single year though….

“Blacks can complain”, meanwhile all we hear from Asian Americans all year round here is complaints and they STILL have complaints post AA and have a goal of being the majority population of every institution without merit, because they think they are inherently smarter than everyone else. Give me a break.


You and your kids are free to compete

They did this past year and won. I’m not too worried about them competing with Asian Americans lol. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the talent in China or Japan.


https://maa.org/news/usa-first-at-imo/

Our Asians are better than their Asians.

Not very often, China has over 3 times the amount of wins as the US team.

China also has over 3x the population of the US.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


White people probably wouldnt think so highly of themselves if everyone didnt uplift them by lusting after their institutions and putting them up on a pedestal. Unfortunately people simply dont feel that way about predominantly asian institutions, which is why you will see prestige levels change accordingly based on wherever white people go. And you can bet asian people (and all others) will follow...
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LMFAO. no. smart white kids are not scared by asians. the ivies and other top-15 universities will remain the schools with all the cache because those schools have the highest percent of smart kids. the smartest kids want to study with other brilliant kids, regardless of race, and many of them prefer racial diversity and enjoy meeting similar students from all over the world. A high percent of internationalism is something unique to the ivy/+ branding of said schools: they draw brilliance from everywhere. The cache is not going to magically move to schools that do not have top global reputations, which globally is based on Nobel-level faculty or grads, research, and smarts of the students. None of the weird BS equity markers the USNews ranking over-elevated last fall.


If you can't spell "cachet" maybe you don't know much about it.


NP but why is it when someone on here can’t address the issue they seize upon on typo out of a very long post as some kind of checkmate? Just seems so desperately disingenuous


NP but maybe because it's not a typo. It's a tell that you're a moron, kind of like chewing with your mouth open or wafting your own farts.


And now you've misused wafting, so by your own logic you're a moron... Congrats, you played yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


Ahem. The white percentage was flat.



Not sure how this adds up to white "mediocrity" "no longer be[ing] rewarded." An alternative way to phrase that would be "white excellence rewarded at pretty much the exact same level."
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Anonymous wrote:I see a potential rise in black students staying in southern institutions. No reason to go to a 5% black environment when you can just head to Georgia tech.


I am an Asian American and I have attended elementary, middle and high school with fewer than 5% Asians. College, graduate school and law school were all fewer than 5% Asians. My place of employment all my life had fewer than 5% Asians. My neighborhoods all had fewer than 5% Asians. Not because I intentionally chose such environment but that was how demographics were.

I know of many Asians who had to face this challenge all their lives as well. I never complained about having too few Asians and other Asians I know do not complain. What is the difference between Asians attending schools with fewer than 5% Asians and blacks attending schools with fewer than 5% blacks? Blacks can complain and whites pretend they care and Asians should not even dare complain since media will completely ignore any complaints by Asians.

There are many Asian Americans in your position, who do choose to go to more Asian-friendly environments every single year though….

“Blacks can complain”, meanwhile all we hear from Asian Americans all year round here is complaints and they STILL have complaints post AA and have a goal of being the majority population of every institution without merit, because they think they are inherently smarter than everyone else. Give me a break.


You and your kids are free to compete

They did this past year and won. I’m not too worried about them competing with Asian Americans lol. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the talent in China or Japan.


https://maa.org/news/usa-first-at-imo/

Our Asians are better than their Asians.

Not very often, China has over 3 times the amount of wins as the US team.

Also the US IMO team should not be reduced to just “Asian.”


The International Math Olympiad is a very small group of people doing a very specialized task. Some countries hold people back (ie keep them in HS longer to win), kind of like doping in sports. Not sure the results of this competition are that significant in terms of overall intelligence of people in these countries.
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Okay guys, if we can stop calling each other racists for a minute, can we ask ourselves the more analytic question, which is, "as elite colleges become more Asian, is there a tipping point at which non-Asian applicants mostly give up on even applying?" Or more succinctly "are we likely to get white flight from the ivy League?" I think the thread so far at least points to a strong "maybe."
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs banning affirmative action 30 years ago and turning plurality-Asian haven't stopped them from being attractive to white applicants. Why are posters here just making up BS?


State school attract in-state applicants because it is the most affordable and convenient option.
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Anonymous wrote:I see a potential rise in black students staying in southern institutions. No reason to go to a 5% black environment when you can just head to Georgia tech.


LMFAO Georgia Tech has 42% Asians already
https://admission.gatech.edu/images/pdf/2023-Incoming-Class-Profile(w).pdf



NP. I don't understand this response. This link has Black at 9% which is greater that 5%, which was the OP point. You wrote LMFAO, but were validating their comment with data....
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


Ahem. The white percentage was flat.



Not sure how this adds up to white "mediocrity" "no longer be[ing] rewarded." An alternative way to phrase that would be "white excellence rewarded at pretty much the exact same level."


Have I missed something? The first column adds up to 112%.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


White people probably wouldnt think so highly of themselves if everyone didnt uplift them by lusting after their institutions and putting them up on a pedestal. Unfortunately people simply dont feel that way about predominantly asian institutions, which is why you will see prestige levels change accordingly based on wherever white people go. And you can bet asian people (and all others) will follow...


Actually, Carnegie Mellon has essentially been an Asian university for a long time now, but the prestige has only been going up. It's actually more Asian than the CDS leads one to believe because the International number is separate, and don't forget the mixed race number. It's not an environment that's for everyone, but the employers sure do love CMU grads.
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Anonymous wrote:The sad reality is that people tend to flee when classes become overwhelmingly asian. While it's not a happy statistic, the reality is whiteness still confers a huge level of "prestige" and wherever white people go, the "elite" status will follow. Ivies that allow their population to become overwhelmingly asian will find both white and black people less interested in attending. There are many incredibly difficult and rigorous schools in East Asia that blow many western schools out of the water, but you still have people flocking en masse to the western schools that were predominantly white for the majority of their existence. Who knows why, but it does seem that whiteness itself does confer some kind of desirability and, again, prestige, on its own. So if white kids get turned off by a predominantly asian population taking all the spots in Harvard, and say, flock to Clemson or College of Charleston or whatever, you can bet those schools will become the next schools with cache. It truly is a never ending cycle.


LOL no.
There are tons of schools with 80% 90% Whites that nobody cares with 80% 90% acceptance rates. You sound stupid 🤣


It’s the unfortunate reality. It’s the historical “whiteness” of these institutions that make them so desirable. There are so many incredible institutions in east Asia and no one cares or wants to go to them


LOL no.
Those schools are incrediblly hard to get in with extremely low acceptance rates.
Now you sound really stupid 🤣


So are plenty of schools in east Asia and other other places, but it’s always the historically white institutions that get the halo effect and people fighting tooth and nail to get into them. Sadly people aren’t interested in getting into the top Korean schools, for example, despite them being highly competitive and selective. The prestige and excitement that whiteness confers is extremely predictable and consistent


You don’t think the lack of foreigners flocking to Korean schools has anything to do with the lack of Korean speakers outside of Korea? Nope, must be racism


It’s because historically White institutions have a renown that Asian institutions do not
Uh huh. It's totally because they're majority white, and not because they're the most selective universities in the largest economy in the world that produce the most cutting edge research.

I'm so glad people like you are being replaced. Good riddance.


There are plenty of incredibly selective and ground breaking institutions all over Asia. But people flock to Harvard and Princeton and Yale because of the cultural capital that its white founders/students gave it. THATs why these universities are so famous and renowned when there are plenty of comparable ones, in terms of grades and selectivity, elsewhere. And the sad reality is, said renown will follow to wherever the white people head next. It’s why Cambridge is still such a name despite having been fairly mediocre for years
White people think so highly of themselves. It's ok. With SFFA decided, white mediocrity will no longer be rewarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


White people probably wouldnt think so highly of themselves if everyone didnt uplift them by lusting after their institutions and putting them up on a pedestal. Unfortunately people simply dont feel that way about predominantly asian institutions, which is why you will see prestige levels change accordingly based on wherever white people go. And you can bet asian people (and all others) will follow...


Actually, Carnegie Mellon has essentially been an Asian university for a long time now, but the prestige has only been going up. It's actually more Asian than the CDS leads one to believe because the International number is separate, and don't forget the mixed race number. It's not an environment that's for everyone, but the employers sure do love CMU grads.


Not really, Carnegie Mellon has not gained in prestige and if anything they just seem to be attracting more Asians, which often drives away people of all other races.
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