Is MoCo taking advantage of Rockville's pool

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From my experience tall kids have a huge advantage in 10 and under swimming. At all stars every year the top 10 and under kids often look like they eat your average 8 and under.

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Anonymous wrote:From my experience tall kids have a huge advantage in 10 and under swimming. At all stars every year the top 10 and under kids often look like they eat your average 8 and under.

I think that is what explains why my daughter was beating year-round competitive swimmers and had an all-star nominating time without great technique or putting much effort into it as well poor coaching from yours truly.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

Here’s a tip! Let your daughter participate in an activity or sport that she enjoys. Why not try gymnastics or tumbling if she enjoys it?

OP, are you going to try to defund Harvard when she’s rejected? Btw, one of the top Rockville RMSC swimmers is headed to Harvard this year and is not that tall. He just loves what he does.

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Anonymous wrote:From my experience tall kids have a huge advantage in 10 and under swimming. At all stars every year the top 10 and under kids often look like they eat your average 8 and under.

I think that is what explains why my daughter was beating year-round competitive swimmers and had an all-star nominating time without great technique or putting much effort into it as well poor coaching from yours truly.

Will she be returning to the Rays next summer or finding a summer team? Impressive to have all star times a 7 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

LOL, you sound very confused - it's ironic that you'd use this as an example because that's EXACTLY how travel baseball works as well as most "travel" level sports.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

LOL, you sound very confused - it's ironic that you'd use this as an example because that's EXACTLY how travel baseball works as well as most "travel" level sports.

Well, at least we can agree swimming is filled with hinky bigots from the county and shouldn't be funded by city tax dollars. There may be hinky bigots elsewhere, but the city doesn't fund travel baseball teams now does it.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

LOL, you sound very confused - it's ironic that you'd use this as an example because that's EXACTLY how travel baseball works as well as most "travel" level sports.

How many times has your daughter tried out for RMSC? There was an injustice each time? You’ve now indicted a city, a county, multiple sports organizations across multiple sports, several coaches spanning your youth to present and several parents. Wow.

Also, I’m in NoVA, but it’s not a given that a PVS coach is going to recommend summer swim as an option to improve in competitive swimming (and certainly isn’t a cult-kept secret that the swimming elite are trying to keep from the masses). While we all often characterize it this way, summer swim isn’t actually the rec version of club swim like you’d find in soccer, etc. They’re unrelated and are affiliated with different organizations and governing entities (USA Swimming vs. NVSL, for example).

I can’t speak for MCSL, but NVSL does require pool membership so that teams don’t unfairly game the system to dominate the league. The pools are absolutely not invitation only. There are multi-year wait lists due to zoning and permit requirements.

You keep changing your point to keep up the narrative that your daughter was somehow wronged - non resident pool usage, bullying on the starting blocks, favoritism or lack thereof based on height and so on. She didn’t make the team after multiple try outs. That sucks. But stop inventing excuses and playing the blame game as to why.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

LOL, you sound very confused - it's ironic that you'd use this as an example because that's EXACTLY how travel baseball works as well as most "travel" level sports.

How many times has your daughter tried out for RMSC? There was an injustice each time? You’ve now indicted a city, a county, multiple sports organizations across multiple sports, several coaches spanning your youth to present and several parents. Wow.

Also, I’m in NoVA, but it’s not a given that a PVS coach is going to recommend summer swim as an option to improve in competitive swimming (and certainly isn’t a cult-kept secret that the swimming elite are trying to keep from the masses). While we all often characterize it this way, summer swim isn’t actually the rec version of club swim like you’d find in soccer, etc. They’re unrelated and are affiliated with different organizations and governing entities (USA Swimming vs. NVSL, for example).

I can’t speak for MCSL, but NVSL does require pool membership so that teams don’t unfairly game the system to dominate the league. The pools are absolutely not invitation only. There are multi-year wait lists due to zoning and permit requirements.

You keep changing your point to keep up the narrative that your daughter was somehow wronged - non resident pool usage, bullying on the starting blocks, favoritism or lack thereof based on height and so on. She didn’t make the team after multiple try outs. That sucks. But stop inventing excuses and playing the blame game as to why.

Oh and now also bigotry!

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

LOL, you sound very confused - it's ironic that you'd use this as an example because that's EXACTLY how travel baseball works as well as most "travel" level sports.

Well, at least we can agree swimming is filled with hinky bigots from the county and shouldn't be funded by city tax dollars. There may be hinky bigots elsewhere, but the city doesn't fund travel baseball teams now does it.

Classic online dodging and shape-shifting there, OP -- when things don't add up or you've been proven wrong, just change the tune and do a different dance! LOL!

Not that it isn't obvious - we can all see it for what it is. But, by all means, keep it up, it is entertaining!

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6 RV Rays eight and under girls with all star nominating times. 5 swim for RMSC Rockville.

They all must have been comfortable diving in off the blocks.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

The county has several summer swim teams and lots of pools are not competative to get into and take anyone. You find an issue with everyone and everything when it doesn't go your way.

RMSC has x number of slots open each try out. Of that they take the best of the bunch or those with the most potential. Your child was not that this time and may need to do a bunch of try outs before being accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

OP, the crickets are because how you get your kid onto RMSC is by having them excel at the tryouts, not by free-associating about your kid's home workouts or genetics. What made you think you could just talk your way in?

I genuinely wanted help after the first tryout at KSAC. If you haven't figured it out. You guys are hinky bordering on cultish. Most of the pools in MCSL are private invitation only pools, vestiges of segregation alive and well. There are number of news articles that lay it out in so many words. Let me put it another way I was at the pool asking the staff about competitive swimming, and they didn't even mention summer leauges as an option. This is a uniquely swim thing. Soccer, Baseball, Basketball etc are not like that.

You can be on the baseball team, but you have to buy a private club membership first oh and invitation only.

There are multiple public pools in MoCo with public MCSL swim teams that function identically to those based at private pools and that are open to any kid who wants to walk in and join: Glenmont, Long Branch, Bethesda, Poolsville, Germantown, Upper County. You can also join a private pool that has space (some genuinely do and are recruiting for membership) or join a waiting list for a private pool at a location you prefer. Or you can jump leagues to find pool space and do summer swim in Princemont, for example: it's no real difference in the commute. But it is unlikely that a club swim staff member (or front desk staff member) is going to outline elaborate recommendations about unrelated summer swim leagues after a club tryout in July when the summer season is already pretty much over. You seem to be working hard to create a narrative where you were wronged beyond a dive off the blocks, and I think others are having trouble seeing it.

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Anonymous wrote:And you just moved here from HoCo? And you are already booted from RMSC and MSI! Nice work

Yeah, I shouldn't complain, tall athletic kids have so many options. Basketball, I wouldn't say they are better (I recall issues in high school) coaches but overall, there are more options. Like I wouldn't even consider competitive swimming for my son. Not that it isn't a good fitness activity, just it will cost so much less, and he'll get so much more out of it since it's a money sport for boys I view swimming, basketball, soccer to be equivalent for girls, basically just fun and fitness. It would be cool if Kaitlin Clark could do a Michael Jordan on the WNBA and turn it into a money sport so that girls can have role models also.

Basketball coaches know how to develop tall athletes. One of the comments above about tall athletes not having the skills is kind of funny. I read coaching manuals for fun to learn about sports and kids and what not. It's funny because my book on developing post players has sections on how to handle athletes that don't have the "complete package" of skills, which the book claims is more often the case than not. They talk about what to do if they can't catch the ball, or can't jump don't have endurance etc. Like my basketball coach said, there is spot on the team because you've got the thing we can't teach. I know short parents say kids should have all the skills, but it isn't like tall kids aren't trying they are growing, somethings will just be harder for them to master, diving for example. Swimming and soccer don't seem to have this philosophy, which is strange. I can kind of understand it in soccer, height isn't as much of an advantage, but swimming what do these coaches know about talent anyway? What a red flag. I mean really, are you paying to be in the pool with the kid that isn't ever going anywhere or the next 6'1" Katie Ledecky or 6'4" Michael Phelps.

So now you think they should have taken your kid just based on the fact that she’s tall for her age?

I just don't think you understand what competitive swimming is. The point is that other sports know about this problem and how to manage it, in soccer they kind of do the opposite because tall kids have an advantage early on, they tend to protect the smaller players that will eventually be more agile. Gymnastics, I didn't even bother.

I tried to contact RMSC early on and explain the situation. Tall athletic girl who was in lessons, but covid, I have doing pullups and inversions on still rings other activities etc., how do I get her on the team. crickets...

I think most of this readership does understand swimming and is therefore extremely confused by your grievances.

All of these “covid cheating” and insider tryouts accusations are just bananas. Last summer as a 6 year old, my kid would barely put their head in the water at the pool. I signed them up for 6 weeks of lessons through the county this spring, to get them water safe and comfortable enough to do summer league.

They had a great summer, and tried out for RMSC. We had zero lessons during covid, and zero prep for tryouts. Kid had never gone off a block before and when given the option hopped up and dove in. They’re doing minis this fall. If a kid is showing good potential, they’ll get in.

There’s no conspiracy to keep OPs kid out, but it sounds like OP has certainly burned the bridge by now.