Is MoCo taking advantage of Rockville's pool

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Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:I think a good start would be to disband the Rays. Would free open a lot of pool time the citizens of Rockville.


The Rockville economy would singlehandedly tank if this happened. Do you have any idea how critical they are to the local economy?
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Anonymous wrote:
Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.


Ah I don't know, haven't been there in weeks. Are they starting renovations?

I bet it was crowded there this morning seeing as how it was so chilly out.

The lifeguards at the pool I go to now continuously test the water, and it looks fabulously clear. I wonder why they don't do that at RSFC?
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Anonymous wrote:
Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.


Ah I don't know, haven't been there in weeks. Are they starting renovations?

I bet it was crowded there this morning seeing as how it was so chilly out.

The lifeguards at the pool I go to now continuously test the water, and it looks fabulously clear. I wonder why they don't do that at RSFC?


RFSC has self cleaning technology. Rays paid for this install last year.
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Anonymous wrote:
Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.


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Anonymous wrote:
Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.


Ah I don't know, haven't been there in weeks. Are they starting renovations?

I bet it was crowded there this morning seeing as how it was so chilly out.

The lifeguards at the pool I go to now continuously test the water, and it looks fabulously clear. I wonder why they don't do that at RSFC?


RFSC has self cleaning technology. Rays paid for this install last year.


Great so next year they won't have big piles of leaves in the deep end of the outdoor pool, or was it already supposed to be activated?
Anonymous
The Rays will have the leaves cleaned up when they stop training for the Retreiver meet. Which means never
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Anonymous wrote:
Hey OP - Just checking in on your progress of getting RMSC banned from the Rockville location and/or getting the Rockville pool de-funded/shut down all together.

Please update status when you get a chance. Thanks.





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Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.
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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.
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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.


It does add up though add in travel expenses and meet expenses. The only difference between the kids swimming in the member lanes and the ones swimming in the teams' lanes are the teams' lanes are paying way more. I'm pretty sure it isn't going towards pool funding.
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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.


It does add up though add in travel expenses and meet expenses. The only difference between the kids swimming in the member lanes and the ones swimming in the teams' lanes are the teams' lanes are paying way more. I'm pretty sure it isn't going towards pool funding.


Nope, those are paid through user fees. In this scenario the swimmers have a chunk of their fees applied to meets. And the swimmers that travel are charged more to pay the coaches travel fees.
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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.


It does add up though add in travel expenses and meet expenses. The only difference between the kids swimming in the member lanes and the ones swimming in the teams' lanes are the teams' lanes are paying way more. I'm pretty sure it isn't going towards pool funding.


Nope, those are paid through user fees. In this scenario the swimmers have a chunk of their fees applied to meets. And the swimmers that travel are charged more to pay the coaches travel fees.


It does add up though: 653,790 for regular employees.

There is at least one swim coach on the roll for 82k per year, several others as temporary. I can add up to over 100K in 2023 amongst two or three coaches, which would be ~16% of swim team dues.

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/MD/city-of-rockville



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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.


It does add up though add in travel expenses and meet expenses. The only difference between the kids swimming in the member lanes and the ones swimming in the teams' lanes are the teams' lanes are paying way more. I'm pretty sure it isn't going towards pool funding.


Nope, those are paid through user fees. In this scenario the swimmers have a chunk of their fees applied to meets. And the swimmers that travel are charged more to pay the coaches travel fees.


It does add up though: 653,790 for regular employees.

There is at least one swim coach on the roll for 82k per year, several others as temporary. I can add up to over 100K in 2023 amongst two or three coaches, which would be ~16% of swim team dues.

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/MD/city-of-rockville





Most coaches are paid less than $20/hour.
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Anonymous wrote:Where does all of the money go that the swimmers pay? With what people eat being in the news so much these days. I hear there is a new section at the grocery, where the beef used to be, cat and dog. I wonder though do coaches eat pools. Why don't swim teams go and build their own pools. It doesn't make any sense. Take a family membership at a public pool it's around a third to a fourth of the cost of a single swimmer's fees. Open swim isn't very efficient you only get like three or four people per lane, often times less. Swim teams you get six to ten. I get it 2K times six lanes and six swimmers is only like 72K per year for salaries, not to mention meets and what not. Coaches don't make all that much, but the point is there doesn't appear to be all that much left over for pool maintenance much less building a pool. These are just spit-ball numbers, but I can't help but think there might be more pools or lane space if there were fewer professional swim coaches. Maybe part-time coaches or parent coaches, you know all the ones that swam in high school and college that are just sitting there waiting for their kids to get out.


The coaches for the Rays make a hair over minimum wage. The hourly wages are not taking up much of the funding.


It does add up though add in travel expenses and meet expenses. The only difference between the kids swimming in the member lanes and the ones swimming in the teams' lanes are the teams' lanes are paying way more. I'm pretty sure it isn't going towards pool funding.


Nope, those are paid through user fees. In this scenario the swimmers have a chunk of their fees applied to meets. And the swimmers that travel are charged more to pay the coaches travel fees.


It does add up though: 653,790 for regular employees.

There is at least one swim coach on the roll for 82k per year, several others as temporary. I can add up to over 100K in 2023 amongst two or three coaches, which would be ~16% of swim team dues.

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/MD/city-of-rockville





Most coaches are paid less than $20/hour.


I said it wasn't particularly well paid. Just that it adds quite some overhead to the use of the pool. It doesn't make sense to me. All those crowded lanes. They don't even generate that much revenue for the pool. RSFC they use about half the pools most days, but general admissions, memberships and programming bring in way more revenue.
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