Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

Well, that's what ICE will do. Read up on how they conducted mass deportations back in the early 20th century. So, if they vote for Trump and this happens to them, karma.

Speaking of Cubans, they are the worst hypocrites in terms of illegal immigrants seeking asylum in this country.

I am familiar with deportations back then as I have relatives who were deported. I also have also known people who overstayed their student visas and were deported. They were all European. Everyone who comes here should be vetted and then vetted again before getting citizenship. I have no issue deporting people who do not qualify to be here.

People are vetted before getting their citizenship. They have to be legal residents, and here for 5 years before applying to become an American citizen. They are finger printed, background checked, and interviewed and tested before they can become a citizen.

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https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation
That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/


I wish some reporter would check back in with her and she how she plans to vote. Has she lost her business? Her husband was a key part of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me where they're going to get all the cruise ships from to deport these people. Should I be investing in cruise lines or do you think this will be an appropriation thing?

HELLO!?

Where are they going to get the baots from? This is supposed to be a thread about the logistics!

Seize them from the cruise lines, of course. The deportees will die from Norovirus before they reach their destinations. Surely you know the US Gov seized luxury ships and stripped them out to transport troops during WWII. They seized most pleasure boats. Why would you think Trump would be above this? Don't say it's illegal because his Supreme Court has given him absolute power.

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No they don’t.
My DH used to joke about it taking an act of Congress to take his citizenship away. We don’t think that’s such a far stretch anymore.
Now he’s made sure all of our passports are in order and we have copies of his paperwork, including his DD-214, in more than one location. He’s been told by past coworkers that assumed he sought their approval that he’s “one of the good ones”. Maybe they will shield him if things get out of hand.
Hopefully we never have to deal with some vigilante going off doing the lord’s work and taking matters into their own hands.

You should be afraid of armed vigilantes with torches and pitch forks who take it upon themselves to capture "illegals." Mobs aren't smart enough to discern whether you belong here. Look at the Sikhs who got murdered after 9-11. Even Hispanic people got accused of being "Arabs." Look at Trump's praise of the Charlottesville mob. He will encourage this.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.

You should pick up a history book yourself. What do you think they called what they were doing to the Jewish people? DEPORTATIONS

And it neither started nor ended with just the Jewish people. The Nazis had a laundry list of people they othered and persecuted.

Illegal immigrants are the excuse to build the camps. They're the population people like you will be a-okay seeing them dragged kicking and screaming from their homes, thrown on busses and trains to God knows where.

But it doesn't end there. Once the camps are built, there will always be a new "other" to fill them with. And you'll find that eventually that "other" will include someone you care about. And it'll then be too late for you to do anything about it.

Talk about read some history. Read some your damn self. History doesn't repeat itself literally. It rhymes. If you think you can elect a fascist regime without some human right tragedies to go with it, you're stupid.

Do you think there should be immigration laws at all?

Lol you don't actually want to hear my answer to that question. Your head would explode. But I have a question for you. Do you think America should have concentration camps at the border? Are you okay becoming that country?

You know what, you’re right. I don’t. I am a recent immigrant. There is nothing you can tell me about the immigration process I don’t already know.

To answer your question, you invented this concentration camp business. No one said there would be any. People who are not legal to be here shouldn’t be here. If they are detained before deportation, I’m okay with that.

Your bigotry will come back to bite you if you think MAGA gives a rat's ass that you're a "legal" immigrant. If you're identifiably brown and foreign, you will be a target of these round ups.

I think it burns you that legal immigrants don’t have the same affection and sympathy for the illegal immigrants you expected them to have. Guess what, we don’t. We see them as line-jumpers.

You honestly think MAGA hates "illegal" immigrants because of bureaucracy? Because they didn't wait in line and fill out the right paperwork? You're a drooling moron.

The legal immigrants’ sentiment toward illegal immigrants does not change with presidential transitions. I don’t care what MAGA thinks. Didn’t care what Biden thought either. Don’t enter the country illegally. Not hard, really.

You should care what the people who you're planning to empower think. They'll not be making the distinction you're making between rule followers and rule breakers. That's not actually their issue. Their issue is they think POC are stealing resources (jobs, money, business, schools, etc.) from them, and they want them all gone.

Hate to break it to you, but the security you're taking for granted will not exist when they have power and their ire inevitably turns on anyone they deem "other." You think you're safe but you aren't.

Ms Vance doesn’t seem worried, does she?

Do you have Mrs Vance money and power? You sure you wanna take that gamble? Plenty of very wealthy influential Jews died in the camps alongside everyone else. Plenty of people thought it couldn't happen to them.

Jews that are US citizens or LPR have nothing to worry about, you are fear mongering. Jews who are illegal immigrants should be concerned just like any other person who is in the US unlawfully.

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Democrats: “Qanon! They are crazy conspiracy theorists! Their nutty lies are ruining America.”

Also democrats: “Trump is going to seize Carnival cruise ships to deport illegal immigrants.”

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I had my green card processed under Biden. Took twice as long and had to fight for every step.

Also under Biden: the shafting of World Bank/IMF/UN retirees and their families in favor of visa applicants born in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats: “Qanon! They are crazy conspiracy theorists! Their nutty lies are ruining America.”

Also democrats: “Trump is going to seize Carnival cruise ships to deport illegal immigrants.”

It's not a conspiracy theory if they tell you they're going to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.

You should pick up a history book yourself. What do you think they called what they were doing to the Jewish people? DEPORTATIONS

And it neither started nor ended with just the Jewish people. The Nazis had a laundry list of people they othered and persecuted.

Illegal immigrants are the excuse to build the camps. They're the population people like you will be a-okay seeing them dragged kicking and screaming from their homes, thrown on busses and trains to God knows where.

But it doesn't end there. Once the camps are built, there will always be a new "other" to fill them with. And you'll find that eventually that "other" will include someone you care about. And it'll then be too late for you to do anything about it.

Talk about read some history. Read some your damn self. History doesn't repeat itself literally. It rhymes. If you think you can elect a fascist regime without some human right tragedies to go with it, you're stupid.

Do you think there should be immigration laws at all?

Lol you don't actually want to hear my answer to that question. Your head would explode. But I have a question for you. Do you think America should have concentration camps at the border? Are you okay becoming that country?

You know what, you’re right. I don’t. I am a recent immigrant. There is nothing you can tell me about the immigration process I don’t already know.

To answer your question, you invented this concentration camp business. No one said there would be any. People who are not legal to be here shouldn’t be here. If they are detained before deportation, I’m okay with that.

Your bigotry will come back to bite you if you think MAGA gives a rat's ass that you're a "legal" immigrant. If you're identifiably brown and foreign, you will be a target of these round ups.

I think it burns you that legal immigrants don’t have the same affection and sympathy for the illegal immigrants you expected them to have. Guess what, we don’t. We see them as line-jumpers.

You honestly think MAGA hates "illegal" immigrants because of bureaucracy? Because they didn't wait in line and fill out the right paperwork? You're a drooling moron.

The legal immigrants’ sentiment toward illegal immigrants does not change with presidential transitions. I don’t care what MAGA thinks. Didn’t care what Biden thought either. Don’t enter the country illegally. Not hard, really.

You should care what the people who you're planning to empower think. They'll not be making the distinction you're making between rule followers and rule breakers. That's not actually their issue. Their issue is they think POC are stealing resources (jobs, money, business, schools, etc.) from them, and they want them all gone.

Hate to break it to you, but the security you're taking for granted will not exist when they have power and their ire inevitably turns on anyone they deem "other." You think you're safe but you aren't.

Ms Vance doesn’t seem worried, does she?

Do you have Mrs Vance money and power? You sure you wanna take that gamble? Plenty of very wealthy influential Jews died in the camps alongside everyone else. Plenty of people thought it couldn't happen to them.

Jews that are US citizens or LPR have nothing to worry about, you are fear mongering. Jews who are illegal immigrants should be concerned just like any other person who is in the US unlawfully.

I was making a reference to what happened historically, not literally what's happening now. This time around the scapegoat is immigrants. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not realistic because the country people are getting deported to has to agree to take them back.

Plenty of countries like Cambodia, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Pakistan and Russia and Venezuela won’t take back deported citizens and/or frequently pause accepting their deported citizens. There are over 100,000 people the US is waiting to deport but their countries won’t take them.

We have bases and territories and islands all over the world - Guantanamo Bay, Guam, the Marshall Islands, the Aleutian Islands. It would be pretty simple to house illegal migrants and rejected asylum seekers there until their home countries take them back. Australia does something similar on the island of Nauru. It's a very effective deterrent to illegal migrants with no hope of being granted asylum.

No one wants to pay for that.

Australia probably finds it cheaper than educating and feeding all the “asylum seekers”

Unlikely. And if they had been dealing with more than a few thousand people then Nauru and PNG would not have agreed to the centres.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.

You should pick up a history book yourself. What do you think they called what they were doing to the Jewish people? DEPORTATIONS

And it neither started nor ended with just the Jewish people. The Nazis had a laundry list of people they othered and persecuted.

Illegal immigrants are the excuse to build the camps. They're the population people like you will be a-okay seeing them dragged kicking and screaming from their homes, thrown on busses and trains to God knows where.

But it doesn't end there. Once the camps are built, there will always be a new "other" to fill them with. And you'll find that eventually that "other" will include someone you care about. And it'll then be too late for you to do anything about it.

Talk about read some history. Read some your damn self. History doesn't repeat itself literally. It rhymes. If you think you can elect a fascist regime without some human right tragedies to go with it, you're stupid.

Do you think there should be immigration laws at all?

Lol you don't actually want to hear my answer to that question. Your head would explode. But I have a question for you. Do you think America should have concentration camps at the border? Are you okay becoming that country?

You know what, you’re right. I don’t. I am a recent immigrant. There is nothing you can tell me about the immigration process I don’t already know.

To answer your question, you invented this concentration camp business. No one said there would be any. People who are not legal to be here shouldn’t be here. If they are detained before deportation, I’m okay with that.

Your bigotry will come back to bite you if you think MAGA gives a rat's ass that you're a "legal" immigrant. If you're identifiably brown and foreign, you will be a target of these round ups.

I think it burns you that legal immigrants don’t have the same affection and sympathy for the illegal immigrants you expected them to have. Guess what, we don’t. We see them as line-jumpers.

You honestly think MAGA hates "illegal" immigrants because of bureaucracy? Because they didn't wait in line and fill out the right paperwork? You're a drooling moron.

The legal immigrants’ sentiment toward illegal immigrants does not change with presidential transitions. I don’t care what MAGA thinks. Didn’t care what Biden thought either. Don’t enter the country illegally. Not hard, really.

You should care what the people who you're planning to empower think. They'll not be making the distinction you're making between rule followers and rule breakers. That's not actually their issue. Their issue is they think POC are stealing resources (jobs, money, business, schools, etc.) from them, and they want them all gone.

Hate to break it to you, but the security you're taking for granted will not exist when they have power and their ire inevitably turns on anyone they deem "other." You think you're safe but you aren't.

Ms Vance doesn’t seem worried, does she?

Do you have Mrs Vance money and power? You sure you wanna take that gamble? Plenty of very wealthy influential Jews died in the camps alongside everyone else. Plenty of people thought it couldn't happen to them.

Jews that are US citizens or LPR have nothing to worry about, you are fear mongering. Jews who are illegal immigrants should be concerned just like any other person who is in the US unlawfully.

I was making a reference to what happened historically, not literally what's happening now. This time around the scapegoat is immigrants. Try to keep up.

That’s why the Jewish people and World Jewish community are going to save immigrants in the US from being exterminated in Trump’s death camps by flying every single one to Israel and protecting them.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats: “Qanon! They are crazy conspiracy theorists! Their nutty lies are ruining America.”

Also democrats: “Trump is going to seize Carnival cruise ships to deport illegal immigrants.”

It's not a conspiracy theory if they tell you they're going to do it.

Do you have a citation for that?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not realistic because the country people are getting deported to has to agree to take them back.

Plenty of countries like Cambodia, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Pakistan and Russia and Venezuela won’t take back deported citizens and/or frequently pause accepting their deported citizens. There are over 100,000 people the US is waiting to deport but their countries won’t take them.

We have bases and territories and islands all over the world - Guantanamo Bay, Guam, the Marshall Islands, the Aleutian Islands. It would be pretty simple to house illegal migrants and rejected asylum seekers there until their home countries take them back. Australia does something similar on the island of Nauru. It's a very effective deterrent to illegal migrants with no hope of being granted asylum.

Your answer is Gitmo, Part 2? When we still haven’t dealt with Gitmo, Part 1? GTFOH.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats: “Qanon! They are crazy conspiracy theorists! Their nutty lies are ruining America.”

Also democrats: “Trump is going to seize Carnival cruise ships to deport illegal immigrants.”

It's not a conspiracy theory if they tell you they're going to do it.

Do you have a citation for that?

Narrator: no citation was presented. 🤡

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SSI means you get medicaid and food stamps also. Israel and the Jewish community can provide those programs and benefits to illegal immigrants and “aliens.”

First, SSI and food stamps are not the same.

Second. Reading is fundamental. You can get SSI if you are a noncitizen *here legally* under certain circumstances. You seem to be implying illegal migrants qualify. You would be wrong.