Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations

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Found another thread with a great idea/ make them fuel.
JD Vance has some unhinged cult views. He has shared he is an admirer of Curtis Yarvis who has truly disturbing views about government and the future:

https://newrepublic.com/a...rian-ideas

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this thread is entertaining and all, people do realize there is a ton of daylight between "rolling out the red carpet for illegals" and "Repurposing C-17s to be like a flying slave ship" right?

If you just turn off the money, most of them will self-deport.

Pp is gonna be a billionaire when she gets the government contract to retrofit C-17s with slave ship bunks. She’s so creative.

Let’s hope so. I saw that movie about the stupid arms dealers. I can do it.

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I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

Don't you think if there was real political will to do it that it wouldn't have been tried by now?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

DP. Yes, neither of the parents are American, therefore the child is not an American. Depending on the laws of the parent's country, the child would be a citizen of one or both parents. This is pretty common throughout the world.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

Don't you think if there was real political will to do it that it wouldn't have been tried by now?

Yes. That was my opinion. I said I think we should do this. I did not say "I think there's a real political will to do this."

My fellow Democrats will never do it because they are softies on immigration - as evidenced by people in this thread acting like they have no idea how you would even begin to deport people - and republicans won't do it because they have nothing to campaign on except immigration and abortion (the party of ideas, am I right?). In reality illegal immigration is a massive problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

Forgot to add. Interestingly enough my dislike of birthright citizenship didn't come about because of illegal immigration from South and Central America. It came about because the people who abuse it the most are Chinese and Indian parents who want their kids to be able to get into an American university more easily. And some Russian oligarchs.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

I think we should get rid of it too, but the impact will be fairly small compared to the scale of the current problem at hand.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

Forgot to add. Interestingly enough my dislike of birthright citizenship didn't come about because of illegal immigration from South and Central America. It came about because the people who abuse it the most are Chinese and Indian parents who want their kids to be able to get into an American university more easily. And some Russian oligarchs.

Not even Russian oligarchs. A normal upper middle class family can afford the 30k fee most of Miami birth clinics charge for you to come here around 7th month, have the baby and go back with papers. I see it all the time on forums.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

Forgot to add. Interestingly enough my dislike of birthright citizenship didn't come about because of illegal immigration from South and Central America. It came about because the people who abuse it the most are Chinese and Indian parents who want their kids to be able to get into an American university more easily. And some Russian oligarchs.

Not even Russian oligarchs. A normal upper middle class family can afford the 30k fee most of Miami birth clinics charge for you to come here around 7th month, have the baby and go back with papers. I see it all the time on forums.

For example - https://happy-baby-usa.com/

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of migrants leave southern Mexico on foot in a new caravan headed for the US border

CIUDAD HIDALGO, México (AP) — Hundreds of migrants from around a dozen countries left from Mexico’s southern border on foot Sunday, as they attempt to make it to the U.S. border.

Some of the members of the group said they hoped to make it to the U.S. border before elections are held in November, because they fear that if Donald Trump wins, he will follow through on a promise to close the border to asylum-seekers.

“We are running the risk that permits (to cross the border) might be blocked,” said Miguel Salazar, a migrant from El Salvador. He feared that a new Trump administration might stop granting appointments to migrants through CBP One, an app used by asylum-seekers to enter the U.S. legally — by getting appointments at U.S. border posts, where they make their cases to officials.

The app only works once migrants reach Mexico City, or states in northern Mexico.


https://apnews.com/article/mexico-migrants-us-border-ff6ec67feee12c38e3bcdc1cd34af90f



https://www.cbp.gov/about/mobile-apps-directory/cbpone


What is the CBP One™ mobile application?
On October 28, 2020, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) launched the FREE CBP One™ mobile application on the Apple App and Google Play stores.

CBP One™ is a mobile application that serves as a single portal to a variety of CBP services. Through a series of guided questions, the app directs each type of user to the appropriate services based on their needs.

As part of CBP’s comprehensive effort to improve the security of our nation’s borders while enhancing legitimate travel and trade, CBP One™ provides increased accessibility and transparency to some of CBP’s most utilized services.

So illegal immigrants fleeing starvation can download an app on their iphone and apply
for asylum.

That’s ridiculous. Starving with a cellphone bill. Who’s paying the bill?

Wouldn’t it be easier for Mexico to invade and take over these failed countries no one wants to live in? Turn them into provinces. The people get citizenship in a country with a stronger economy, Mexico gets additional land, and our businesses will open more factories there and get the cheaper labor. Win win win for all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

She likely would've overstayed her visa, just as many other illegals do. Or lie on her citizenship application so she could become a citizen.

birthright citizenship exists in Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean one, I think we should do away with birthright citizenship. That would solve this problem within a few years.

so, you have two resident aliens who have a baby in the US, but that baby wouldn't get US citizenship?

So, if Melania had a baby while she was on her HlB visa with another visa holder, her baby shouldn't be considered a US citizen?

No. Why should the baby be a full citizen? Neither of his parents would be and they would most likely go home. I know you used Melania as a gotcha because you figured I was a Trump voter (I'm not, Harris 2024 baby!) who just hates brown immigrants but is cool with white ones (not true) but if Melania hadn't married a citizen, she likely would've gone back to Europe. Why tf should her kid get citizenship because she happened to get knocked up while she was here?

You know Melania didn’t get her papers through marriage, right?