Why did God create pediatric cancer?

[Anonymous]

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

All silly, pointless questions. Is there free will in heaven? If I am god why would I make anyone want to do horrible things?

I’m frickin’ GOD. I can make it all perfect. Can’t I?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Ok. Everyone lives for a very long time as millionaires. Since everyone is a happy millionaire, who be police officers, fire fighters, who will grow food for humanity?

There will be more people to feed so we will need more food. Will you give everyone their food everyday? Everyone has a fully stocked kitchen every day magically?

Then they can go get their meth and take vacations however I don’t know how they will fly on a plane because everyone is a millionaire and nobody is being a commercial pilot as a millionaire; especially if they have a fully stocked kitchen and don’t have to worry about money. I doubt anyone will be a garbage man; I hope you remove our trash daily too. I don’t know who is going to manufacture things because no millionaire is going to work in a factory. You can give us all a new car every year. If we wreck it you need to have a new vehicle placed in our garages. You will have to make our bodies different because when people fall off a ladder or wreck their car our bodies will become injured. Make sure we have invincible bodies that heal automatically.

More silliness. I am GOD. There are no fires thus no need for firefighters. Food will be plentiful and natural. Sure, why not magic refrigerators? Why can’t I do that? Why can’t I make it that way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

So everyone can’t get their way is what you are saying. And so God in your view picks and chooses who to help? And sometimes lets pediatric cancer patients die. Which is why many of us say “that’s not a god worth following”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

Can’t I make 100,000 universes and make each the president of the US? And why can’t I give people the ability to turn themselves into whatever they want? Tigers, hedgehogs, rutabagas, whatever?

[Anonymous]

God did create that utopia you guys are thinking about. That was Eden. The problem was, humans were not satisfied with it and wanted more. Deep down, you and I all know that we would never be satisfied. So God is teaching us about what is really important, communion with him, not satisfying our own bottomless appetites.

[Anonymous]

I suggest you atheist actually think about what you are saying. Will you ever be satisfied? No. It doesn't stop at pediatric cancer. Humans will always want more. Also consider the hubris in trying to think you as a mere human can design a better existence.

Ultimately you only have two choices. Either decide that there is no God and everything is random and live with the consequences of that conclusion, or accept that there is a God but he clearly places more importance on something beyond our earthly comfort. Then if you really care to, figure out what God wants yourself. I honestly don't think it is that hard for anyone who is willing to pursue the question honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

All silly, pointless questions. Is there free will in heaven? If I am god why would I make anyone want to do horrible things?

I’m frickin’ GOD. I can make it all perfect. Can’t I?

Well, God doesn't want zombies or robots. He wants freely thinking and loving humans made in his image and nature. His nature is ultimately self giving. Name one person in real life who grew up in a perfect bubble with everything handed to him but who is self giving and generous and humble.

You might take issue with how things are set up but that is just how reality works. That is who God is and how he operates. He wants us to be great and won't settle for less. You can be pissed at him and think that all the worldly suffering is just not worth it, that you didn't choose to be born and have to go through all this for the possibility of heaven. Plenty of people have been similarly mad at God. But it's pretty useless, imo. God has set up the world this way and you will have to go through this life regardless of whether you believe in him or not. At least with faith you have hope and you have someone (God) who has promised to walk with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

This whole exchange is a red herring. The topic of this post was pediatric cancer- so suffering the consequences of free will or "value" of suffering to prove faith arguments do not apply.

Whether or not a God would allow "torturing of animals" to make people happy, at a minimum, a loving omnipotent God would not give innocent children cancer, or allow pediatric cancer to exist.

So is pediatric cancer the worst suffering in your mind? If that were eliminated, then you would probably focus on the next worst suffering right?

And how do you know that there wasnt something way worse than pediatric cancer from which God has spared us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

All silly, pointless questions. Is there free will in heaven? If I am god why would I make anyone want to do horrible things?

I’m frickin’ GOD. I can make it all perfect. Can’t I?

Well, God doesn't want zombies or robots. He wants freely thinking and loving humans made in his image and nature. His nature is ultimately self giving. Name one person in real life who grew up in a perfect bubble with everything handed to him but who is self giving and generous and humble.

You might take issue with how things are set up but that is just how reality works. That is who God is and how he operates. He wants us to be great and won't settle for less. You can be pissed at him and think that all the worldly suffering is just not worth it, that you didn't choose to be born and have to go through all this for the possibility of heaven. Plenty of people have been similarly mad at God. But it's pretty useless, imo. God has set up the world this way and you will have to go through this life regardless of whether you believe in him or not. At least with faith you have hope and you have someone (God) who has promised to walk with you.

What are you talking about, zombies and robots? I didn’t say anything about that. I’m god, i saiid I would make it perfect. Can’t I do that?

[Anonymous]

It’s humans who prolonged that child’s suffering with modern medicine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God did create that utopia you guys are thinking about. That was Eden. The problem was, humans were not satisfied with it and wanted more. Deep down, you and I all know that we would never be satisfied. So God is teaching us about what is really important, communion with him, not satisfying our own bottomless appetites.

Does that explain the suffering of children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

This whole exchange is a red herring. The topic of this post was pediatric cancer- so suffering the consequences of free will or "value" of suffering to prove faith arguments do not apply.

Whether or not a God would allow "torturing of animals" to make people happy, at a minimum, a loving omnipotent God would not give innocent children cancer, or allow pediatric cancer to exist.

So is pediatric cancer the worst suffering in your mind? If that were eliminated, then you would probably focus on the next worst suffering right?

And how do you know that there wasnt something way worse than pediatric cancer from which God has spared us?

I have heard only two reasons why pediatric cancer is an OK thing:
1) suffering is a noble way to deepen faith
2) suffering is a result of free will and a "consequence" of that

I am probing those explanations and find that they do not explain pediatric cancer. Personally, I would find a way to eliminate suffering entirely IF I were a benevolent and loving omnipotent God. But the point here is that no reason at all has been given that could explain why pediatric cancer would exist EVEN accepting those rationales.

[Anonymous]

The mental gymnastics on this thread…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Ok. Everyone lives for a very long time as millionaires. Since everyone is a happy millionaire, who be police officers, fire fighters, who will grow food for humanity?

There will be more people to feed so we will need more food. Will you give everyone their food everyday? Everyone has a fully stocked kitchen every day magically?

Then they can go get their meth and take vacations however I don’t know how they will fly on a plane because everyone is a millionaire and nobody is being a commercial pilot as a millionaire; especially if they have a fully stocked kitchen and don’t have to worry about money. I doubt anyone will be a garbage man; I hope you remove our trash daily too. I don’t know who is going to manufacture things because no millionaire is going to work in a factory. You can give us all a new car every year. If we wreck it you need to have a new vehicle placed in our garages. You will have to make our bodies different because when people fall off a ladder or wreck their car our bodies will become injured. Make sure we have invincible bodies that heal automatically.

More silliness. I am GOD. There are no fires thus no need for firefighters. Food will be plentiful and natural. Sure, why not magic refrigerators? Why can’t I do that? Why can’t I make it that way?

So when people want to rape, murder, sexually abuse other humans, animals, etc, how will you deal with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Ok. Everyone lives for a very long time as millionaires. Since everyone is a happy millionaire, who be police officers, fire fighters, who will grow food for humanity?

There will be more people to feed so we will need more food. Will you give everyone their food everyday? Everyone has a fully stocked kitchen every day magically?

Then they can go get their meth and take vacations however I don’t know how they will fly on a plane because everyone is a millionaire and nobody is being a commercial pilot as a millionaire; especially if they have a fully stocked kitchen and don’t have to worry about money. I doubt anyone will be a garbage man; I hope you remove our trash daily too. I don’t know who is going to manufacture things because no millionaire is going to work in a factory. You can give us all a new car every year. If we wreck it you need to have a new vehicle placed in our garages. You will have to make our bodies different because when people fall off a ladder or wreck their car our bodies will become injured. Make sure we have invincible bodies that heal automatically.

More silliness. I am GOD. There are no fires thus no need for firefighters. Food will be plentiful and natural. Sure, why not magic refrigerators? Why can’t I do that? Why can’t I make it that way?

So when people want to rape, murder, sexually abuse other humans, animals, etc, how will you deal with that?

I honestly can’t believe I am being asked these questions. It’s kinda sick, or sickening at least.

I am frickin’ GOD. Why would I create anyone who wanted to do those things?