Except when God give children cancer or longterm suffering only to have them and their parents suffer then die. I don't see that as kindness - or am I missing something? |
You missed learning to read, apparently. |
You are a hideous, awful, monster. |
This is not heaven. We are not promised a life free of pain and suffering while we are on earth. |
Clearly I can read. Clearly you don't understand logic. If God is a loving force or positive karma, why do kids who have put nothing positive or negative in the world suffer? The fact is they do suffer - so.... that is not a loving thing or karma. So unless your definition of 'positive' is exactly the opposite of everyone else's, there is no logic to your statement. |
Wow I totally agree. I can't believe there are humans who think other humans deserve suffering for nonsensical BS. In fact I think I would have put it more strongly than "hideous, awful, monster" even. |
This is probably one of the best explanations I've heard, but it still doesn't make sense to me. I appreciate your response. |
If prayer is for the individual doing it, then why do people saying "I'm praying for you?" |
If no one ever got sick, doctors would not be needed, there would be no medical or pharmaceutical industry needed, no one would ever learn compassion or learn to pray. These things are all relevant for this world, but not heaven. The baby is no longer suffering, he is at peace now. This world is temporary. There is always a succession of people coming into this world and people leaving this world and not always at our convenience.
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While you are not as bad as the monster referenced above, I find your logic immoral and reprehensible, and it disgusts me. |
I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me. |
Thank you. Happy to elaborate if you can say more about what doesn’t make sense to you. |
This kind of question is why I eventually went from considering seminary in my mid 20s to becoming an atheist by 30.
There is so much comfort in recognizing that everything in life is to some extent just a random expression of biology and physics. There is no allegedly all knowing, all powerful and loving entity which allows profound suffering on a heartbreaking scale in this world. There is just life while we have it, and love if we can embrace it. |
In this case it sounds like the pain and suffering were inflicted by the child's parents and doctors who selfishly chose to inflict those medical treatments on him. |
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Poster from above. I went back to your post to read again what doesn’t make sense to you. First, God did not “kill his own kid.” Jesus IS God so in effect he sacrificed himself. You say that God has the power to grant eternal life without this but I’m not sure that’s true. The Bible is clear that there are things God Himself cannot do- for example he cannot sin. He cannot lie. We are separated from him because we do sin and sin cannot coexist in his presence. By dying on the cross and descending into Hell he conquered sin for us. |