DD Missed Try Outs

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

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The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

+1. West Potomac Baseball roster has varied by 13 spots in the last 4 years.

A roster is never full.

Ah… now I get it. You’re trolling. No one actually thinks that they can reason from one team at one high school to every sport/school.

This is like the 5th time you have missed the point.

You keep stating that rosters are full and there is a finite number. You can easily Google WP's baseball team to verify that you are FOS.

But is there any reason to think thie WPB roster rules are applicable to every other sport? There are super strict rules on basketball rosters in many local leagues, for instance.

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Anonymous wrote:Coach was not notified.... before her grandfather died... that he would die around try out.

There was no registration. It was "Be at Madison field 4pm Monday."

She reached out after the funeral, explained the family emergency, and her response was basically too bad so sad.

I do feel for your daughter, but making contact with the coach before the tryouts happened would have been a better option. Otherwise it does look to the coach that your DD was just unorganized, missed the tryout, and now wants an exception after the fact.

My thoughts exactly. I know you really had a funeral to go to, but anybody could use this excuse. You have to see that.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

+1

The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

+1. West Potomac Baseball roster has varied by 13 spots in the last 4 years.

A roster is never full.

Ah… now I get it. You’re trolling. No one actually thinks that they can reason from one team at one high school to every sport/school.

This is like the 5th time you have missed the point.

You keep stating that rosters are full and there is a finite number. You can easily Google WP's baseball team to verify that you are FOS.

I'm not the pp you are quoting.
Where are you finding West Potomac High school's official baseball roster?

Here is the roster that is linked directly from the school website and it shows NO ONE on the roster for this year.
https://www.westpotomacsports.net/page/5490

Mazpreps.

And rosters haven't been posted yet. That will happen next week.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

+1

The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

+1. West Potomac Baseball roster has varied by 13 spots in the last 4 years.

A roster is never full.

Ah… now I get it. You’re trolling. No one actually thinks that they can reason from one team at one high school to every sport/school.

This is like the 5th time you have missed the point.

You keep stating that rosters are full and there is a finite number. You can easily Google WP's baseball team to verify that you are FOS.

I'm not the pp you are quoting.
Where are you finding West Potomac High school's official baseball roster?

Here is the roster that is linked directly from the school website and it shows NO ONE on the roster for this year.
https://www.westpotomacsports.net/page/5490

Mazpreps.

And rosters haven't been posted yet. That will happen next week.

Never heard of it.
I've heard of MaxPreps which is not always accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

+1

The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

How are you going to bring up past rosters from pp (that's not me)'s school?
MaxPreps isn't always 100% accurate, FYI.

You can get team pictures and count. Some schools have past rosters.

Because kids are never absent on team picture day?

You guys are really desperate to believe there is an exact number every year on a roster, there isn't

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

+1

The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

How are you going to bring up past rosters from pp (that's not me)'s school?
MaxPreps isn't always 100% accurate, FYI.

You can get team pictures and count. Some schools have past rosters.

Because kids are never absent on team picture day?

You guys are really desperate to believe there is an exact number every year on a roster, there isn't

It's not that there is always an "exact number." It's that some teams can not go over a certain number because they don't have enough uniforms, gear, seats on the bus for away games, etc.
Here is one example of a Virginia football team from last fall
https://www.insidenova.com/sports/turnout-remains-high-for-gainesvilles-football-program/article_5b3b3604-2bd7-11ee-b392-33e1442d6a99.html
Obviously a team can always have a lower number if the sport isn't popular at that school and no one tries out.

That doesn't seem to be the case in OP's daughter's situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s reasonable to have a young child think “I need to email my coach” in the middle of a family member dying.

I’d call the principal and ask for a tryout but the coach will be a di$k and say she didn’t make it.

If she’s a lower clansman I’d just stick with the club team since this same coach will be there next year.

I don't think it's reasonable to have a "young child" in high school. Maybe 13 at the youngest.

She's clearly not a senior, she is 15 years old. Yes that is a young child.

I think the issue for me is that if she was too young to be expected to do it herself, then it is the parent’s responsibility. I have one kid who is old enough to communicate with his coach, that is on him. I have one kid that isn't old enough to be that independent. That doesn’t mean we don’t communicate with the coach, that means a parent is responsible.

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I think people are insane if you think I’m (or my child) is worrying about sports tryouts during the death of my parent.

Insane!

My kids are D1 athletes and as crazy as coaches are I don’t know one that expects a child or their parent to think of him 1st while a parent is dying.

Literally Insane.

No. It isn't.

"Dear Coach X, My grandfather passed away. I am attending the funeral on the day of the tryouts and I will miss them. How can I make arrangements to try out before or after the official tryouts to be evalutated?

PLayer Y"

Gee...took all of 30 seconds to write that email. An empathetic coach would deal with that by saying "sorry for your loss, let's do X for you."

At the end of the day, OP's kid probably isn't that good. Or at least not good enough to warrant making a spot on the team post tryouts. A good coach, even at public schools, know who is coming in the door with talent. If OP's kid was the 2nd coming of Mia Hamm, there is little doubt he'd make room for her.

OP, did you and/or your spouse manage to call out of work for this funeral? If so, your daughter could have contacted the coach. Stop acting so entitled or she won't make the team next year either.

When my mom died I was in a meeting so I said, I have to go my mom is being rushed to the hospital.

After that I had no contact with work for 2 weeks, my boss called for an update.

When my coworkers go MIA we reach out.

I had no expectations for my employee to reach out to me when her son died in a car accident.

We notice they aren’t at work and reach out.

You expect a high school sport coach to notice and reach out to every single student that isn't at tryouts?
In any given high school, for every sport, the majority of the student body will not be trying out. There's no way a coach can chase down every single student and find out if they weren't at tryouts because they just flat out have no interest, or if they weren't at tryouts because a relative died.

No obviously you asked what happens at work when somebody dies, and I said they rarely reach out ... there are more important things to do.

No, that PP did not ask, I did. But when my parent died when I was 24 years old, one of the first calls I made was to my boss. At my current large workplace, I have seen many announcements of the death of a colleague's parent, grandparent, or sibling, and often those announcements are the day after the death, e.g., "We are sad to report that Bob Smith's father died unexpectedly yesterday. We will keep you posted if and when we are made aware of any funeral arrangements." It is total BS that people don't call in to work. That would never fly in my work. There are all kinds of deadlines that need to be met and coverages that need to happen.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you think the deadline on your team-led TPS report is more important than the mental health of a woman that just lost a kid.

It is not a team-led TPS report. That might be your work but it is not mine. I have client deadlines and court-imposed deadlines. If I am going to be out of work, people need to know. Many people have jobs like that. Look, I feel bad if this kid was just so distraught about her grandfather's passing that she completely forgot all about tryouts until after the fact. But this is how real life works. It would be great if OP's daughter ends up in a job where if a parent or grandparent dies, she can just bail on work and expect everyone to figure it out. You seem to have only had those types of jobs. But many of us do not have those types of jobs and that isn't the way HS tryouts work either.

OP or her daughter can make a stink if they want, but I suspect that won't result in OP's kid making the team and it won't bode well for next year.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

+1

The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

How are you going to bring up past rosters from pp (that's not me)'s school?
MaxPreps isn't always 100% accurate, FYI.

You can get team pictures and count. Some schools have past rosters.

Because kids are never absent on team picture day?

You guys are really desperate to believe there is an exact number every year on a roster, there isn't

NP here. Ok, so what determines the roster size then each year? Is there ever a ceiling? Does the state or school districts set caps? How does this work?

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Anonymous wrote:If the injured girls were on the team previously that was why their spots were held.

That's not how try outs work. Being on a team one season is not a promise to be on the team another season. You'd think someone on a sports forum would know that.

This is absolutely how it works at our private, returning athletes to a team attend tryouts but are guaranteed a spot.

Really? So if the team has no seniors than any new student is prohibited from playing? If that were a universal rule all kids of military families would never be able to play a sport. Your school sucks.

Is math not your thing? Since seniors graduate each year, there are always some open spots, just not an unlimited amount. And outside of running and swimming, there are limits on roster size anyway since only some many kids can compete.

It's not math, genius. If all players are returning and none are graduating, then at PP's school there would be no open spots.

Except there are always kids graduating, what alternative universe do you reside in?

This is growing tiresome.

Yes, a school graduate kids every year but that doesn't mean the team graduates kids every year.

There is no sport at our school where there are not seniors on the varsity team. I assume if there were, the sport would be extremely unpopular, and available roster spots would not be an issue.Moreover, in our area, most schools, both private and public, limit jv team participation to freshman and sophomores.

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All of the back and forth about exact roster spots is irrelevant. The bottom line is tryouts were held as scheduled and the coach had no knowledge about the family emergency until after tryouts were completed. The challenge, like someone else mentioned, is that if the coach starts making exceptions after tryouts it opens a can of worms. It’s an unfortunate situation for OP’s DD but there’s not likely a different resolution for this year.

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I know that at my kids’ high school, final rosters are due at a certain time (usually very soon after tryouts end). Then practice starts pretty much immediately. The timeline is pretty short. I have never seen a kid added after this period in any of my kids’ sports. Not saying it would be impossible but have never seen it for sports that cut. Excluding late move ups from JV obviously. I have wondered at times what would happen if a kid was sick during the tryouts (especially a freshman) and unable to attend.

Also for most sports there are off season or pre season workouts- so most kids trying out are already familiar to the coach- even freshmen.

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Anonymous wrote:If the injured girls were on the team previously that was why their spots were held.

That's not how try outs work. Being on a team one season is not a promise to be on the team another season. You'd think someone on a sports forum would know that.

This is absolutely how it works at our private, returning athletes to a team attend tryouts but are guaranteed a spot.

Really? So if the team has no seniors than any new student is prohibited from playing? If that were a universal rule all kids of military families would never be able to play a sport. Your school sucks.

Is math not your thing? Since seniors graduate each year, there are always some open spots, just not an unlimited amount. And outside of running and swimming, there are limits on roster size anyway since only some many kids can compete.

It's not math, genius. If all players are returning and none are graduating, then at PP's school there would be no open spots.

Except there are always kids graduating, what alternative universe do you reside in?

This is growing tiresome.

Yes, a school graduate kids every year but that doesn't mean the team graduates kids every year.

There is no sport at our school where there are not seniors on the varsity team. I assume if there were, the sport would be extremely unpopular, and available roster spots would not be an issue.Moreover, in our area, most schools, both private and public, limit jv team participation to freshman and sophomores.

Our district does too. Still seniors on JV (rightly or wrongly).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s reasonable to have a young child think “I need to email my coach” in the middle of a family member dying.

I’d call the principal and ask for a tryout but the coach will be a di$k and say she didn’t make it.

If she’s a lower clansman I’d just stick with the club team since this same coach will be there next year.

I don't think it's reasonable to have a "young child" in high school. Maybe 13 at the youngest.

She's clearly not a senior, she is 15 years old. Yes that is a young child.

I think the issue for me is that if she was too young to be expected to do it herself, then it is the parent’s responsibility. I have one kid who is old enough to communicate with his coach, that is on him. I have one kid that isn't old enough to be that independent. That doesn’t mean we don’t communicate with the coach, that means a parent is responsible.

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I think people are insane if you think I’m (or my child) is worrying about sports tryouts during the death of my parent.

Insane!

My kids are D1 athletes and as crazy as coaches are I don’t know one that expects a child or their parent to think of him 1st while a parent is dying.

Literally Insane.

No. It isn't.

"Dear Coach X, My grandfather passed away. I am attending the funeral on the day of the tryouts and I will miss them. How can I make arrangements to try out before or after the official tryouts to be evalutated?

PLayer Y"

Gee...took all of 30 seconds to write that email. An empathetic coach would deal with that by saying "sorry for your loss, let's do X for you."

At the end of the day, OP's kid probably isn't that good. Or at least not good enough to warrant making a spot on the team post tryouts. A good coach, even at public schools, know who is coming in the door with talent. If OP's kid was the 2nd coming of Mia Hamm, there is little doubt he'd make room for her.

OP, did you and/or your spouse manage to call out of work for this funeral? If so, your daughter could have contacted the coach. Stop acting so entitled or she won't make the team next year either.

When my mom died I was in a meeting so I said, I have to go my mom is being rushed to the hospital.

After that I had no contact with work for 2 weeks, my boss called for an update.

When my coworkers go MIA we reach out.

I had no expectations for my employee to reach out to me when her son died in a car accident.

We notice they aren’t at work and reach out.

You expect a high school sport coach to notice and reach out to every single student that isn't at tryouts?
In any given high school, for every sport, the majority of the student body will not be trying out. There's no way a coach can chase down every single student and find out if they weren't at tryouts because they just flat out have no interest, or if they weren't at tryouts because a relative died.

No obviously you asked what happens at work when somebody dies, and I said they rarely reach out ... there are more important things to do.

No, that PP did not ask, I did. But when my parent died when I was 24 years old, one of the first calls I made was to my boss. At my current large workplace, I have seen many announcements of the death of a colleague's parent, grandparent, or sibling, and often those announcements are the day after the death, e.g., "We are sad to report that Bob Smith's father died unexpectedly yesterday. We will keep you posted if and when we are made aware of any funeral arrangements." It is total BS that people don't call in to work. That would never fly in my work. There are all kinds of deadlines that need to be met and coverages that need to happen.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you think the deadline on your team-led TPS report is more important than the mental health of a woman that just lost a kid.

It is not a team-led TPS report. That might be your work but it is not mine. I have client deadlines and court-imposed deadlines. If I am going to be out of work, people need to know. Many people have jobs like that. Look, I feel bad if this kid was just so distraught about her grandfather's passing that she completely forgot all about tryouts until after the fact. But this is how real life works. It would be great if OP's daughter ends up in a job where if a parent or grandparent dies, she can just bail on work and expect everyone to figure it out. You seem to have only had those types of jobs. But many of us do not have those types of jobs and that isn't the way HS tryouts work either.

OP or her daughter can make a stink if they want, but I suspect that won't result in OP's kid making the team and it won't bode well for next year.

Typical arrogant litigator doesn't see the difference between a young teen and a middle aged adult.

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My freshman/sophomore students frequently email me when they are going to miss class (for a funeral, wedding, medical appointment, when they wake up with an illness that morning). And that’s math class, there are 90 of them in a year and you can’t be kicked out.

I would expect anyone in high school to know to email ahead of time if they are going to miss try outs, regardless of the reason.

It sucks, but it’s a good lesson to learn now before she misses a medical appointment with a specialist with a 6 month wait, forgets to tell the court she’s out of town and can’t serve jury duty, or misses out on a job because she missed the interview. I’m sure there are tears and frustration, but it’s a learning moment where you can model how to handle big emotions and find alternative ways to access the sport she likes.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?

Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.

And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.

Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.

But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work

Coach is being an ahole. THERE WAS A DEATH in the family, for Fs sake. Kid wasn't in Cancun.

Unless there are no spots available -and that is a valid point- there is no reason not to let the kid have a try out or practice with the team. None. Zero. And at our school, which has some very good sports teams, there are always spots available. They may not dress but they can practice, show up, and vie to dress.

Again, this is high school. There is no reasons for this type of behavior by some wanna-be Nick Saban.

I'm not the OP or the person you quoted.

At my kid's current high school, the only sports that do NOT have a limited number of spots is cross country and track. My older kids went to a different high school than my current high school student, and it was the same there. From what I've heard from friends with high school kids at other schools, it's the same at those schools too.
There just isn't an unlimited amount of spots for sports like soccer, tennis, softball, etc.

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The poster that keeps saying "just add her to the roster" either has a child that doesnt play in one of the more competitive sports, or has a child that goes to a school that doesnt routinely fill out a roster

If you have a HS of over 2,000 kids, and they have a few hundred show up to a baseball or softball or basketball tryout, there are going to be cuts.

You can't simply "add a person to the roster after tryouts". It would be incredibly unfair to all the kids that came to the tryout, did their best, but didn't make the team.

And the alternative (cutting an athlete that has already made the team) is even worst.

The only sport that has serious restriction for roster is Basketball and since that is not a spring sport we are not talking about basketball.

I can bring up rosters from your HS from each year and show you there is not an exact number.

What is your school?

+1. West Potomac Baseball roster has varied by 13 spots in the last 4 years.

A roster is never full.

Ah… now I get it. You’re trolling. No one actually thinks that they can reason from one team at one high school to every sport/school.

This is like the 5th time you have missed the point.

You keep stating that rosters are full and there is a finite number. You can easily Google WP's baseball team to verify that you are FOS.

I'm not the pp you are quoting.
Where are you finding West Potomac High school's official baseball roster?

Here is the roster that is linked directly from the school website and it shows NO ONE on the roster for this year.
https://www.westpotomacsports.net/page/5490

Mazpreps.

And rosters haven't been posted yet. That will happen next week.

Never heard of it.
I've heard of MaxPreps which is not always accurate.

This is the level of intellect here. A guy can't see a typo, literally one key away, and not be either confused, or indignant.