blair magnet quesiton

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


It sounds like they have a bad case of Blair Envy and are taking it out on anyone questioning their bizarre delusions about W kids at SMCS etc.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


I am definitely a different poster. Please stop.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


I am definitely a different poster. Please stop.


And same poster again, it’s a slow day so I just went back and counted. PP has posted about the 8 neighborhood kids at least FOUR times. That’s enough. It’s no wonder at least two of us called her out for it.

Fwiw, I’ve worked out who she is.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


I am definitely a different poster. Please stop.


And same poster again, it’s a slow day so I just went back and counted. PP has posted about the 8 neighborhood kids at least FOUR times. That’s enough. It’s no wonder at least two of us called her out for it.

Fwiw, I’ve worked out who she is.


And you've now brought this up about 10 times? I agree with the PP. You need to seek help.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


It sounds like they have a bad case of Blair Envy and are taking it out on anyone questioning their bizarre delusions about W kids at SMCS etc.


True more often than not....
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


I am definitely a different poster. Please stop.


And same poster again, it’s a slow day so I just went back and counted. PP has posted about the 8 neighborhood kids at least FOUR times. That’s enough. It’s no wonder at least two of us called her out for it.

Fwiw, I’ve worked out who she is.


And you've now brought this up about 10 times? I agree with the PP. You need to seek help.


This an an anonymous board. You are talking to different people.

And please stop with the “you need to seek help” to everyone you disagree with.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


I also think it's remarkable, and suspect many of these assumptions DCUM posters subscribe to are outdated.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


It sounds like they have a bad case of Blair Envy and are taking it out on anyone questioning their bizarre delusions about W kids at SMCS etc.


True more often than not....


Weird that the folks arguing here are in bound for Blair. Not sure how that factors into your “Blair envy” calculation.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


I also think it's remarkable, and suspect many of these assumptions DCUM posters subscribe to are outdated.


“Also” - stop replying to yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:NP, it’s well known that white, upper middle class, striver Takoma Park families send their kids to CAP. Very few go to the magnet, either because they are more interested in lefty social activist type subjects or because they don’t get in. It’s much more difficult to get in to the magnet than CAP.

The number of local Takoma Park kids in CAP is many times the number of local kids in the magnet. And as has been mentioned, that is reflected in the kids taking the bus after 9th period.

From the discussion here it sounds like maybe allegedly (according to one poster) more local kids got in to the magnet this year than in current years. But that doesn’t relate to the current composition.


May not be more local kids getting in. I do notice that students from Whitman and Churchill are less willing to go to Blair now and they get fantastic college admission offers from their home schools. I heard several friends’ kids declined Blair and RM IB offers. Wootton kids are somehow still very interested in Blair.


That's odd I looked at the college outcomes posted by MoCo360 and see that Blair and RMIB do so much better than Whitman and Churchill.


We’re talking about about 5-10students from each high school who decided to not go to Blair or RM IB. You can’t compare the whole non magnet school with magnet school for IVY admissions. But both Whitman and Churchill had top IVY admissions. But even for UMD admissions, Whitman and Churchill have better admission rates than Blair and RM according to the table in MoCo 360. Whitman had 386 applied to UMD and 243 admitted, Blair had 367 applied and 157 admitted, RM had 335 applied and 176 admitted, Churchill had 259 applied and 143 admitted.
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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.


Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.


She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year


But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.



Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/


About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.


40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.



Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.


The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.


There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...


It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.


That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.


Wow! Learn to read. The (sub) thread was about LOCAL Takoma park kids not those who went to the magnet from elsewhere.

No, you need to learn how to read. The (sub) thread was not about local Takoma Park kids. It was about the myth that Potomac and Bethesda send more kids to Blair, which is false.
Read the chain of posts above.
Context.


Correct, the poster who misunderstood the context either has comprehension issues or is deliberately obtuse.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.


It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.


DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.


DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.


You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

I posted the unhinged comment about a different poster who was calling people names. You should try and keep up.


I’m a different poster not the one calling you out for posting the same thing repeatedly, but they are right. You’ve said this so many times already on this thread. We get it. You believe this is true or want us to. Now stop saying the same thing over and over again because it is unhinged.

I'm sure you are different poster. It sounds like you have some issues. You may want to seek help.


It sounds like they have a bad case of Blair Envy and are taking it out on anyone questioning their bizarre delusions about W kids at SMCS etc.


True more often than not....


Weird that the folks arguing here are in bound for Blair. Not sure how that factors into your “Blair envy” calculation.


Or the Wootton booster is so upset over their shattered delusions they've gone on a sockpuppet bender.
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Anonymous wrote:NP, it’s well known that white, upper middle class, striver Takoma Park families send their kids to CAP. Very few go to the magnet, either because they are more interested in lefty social activist type subjects or because they don’t get in. It’s much more difficult to get in to the magnet than CAP.

The number of local Takoma Park kids in CAP is many times the number of local kids in the magnet. And as has been mentioned, that is reflected in the kids taking the bus after 9th period.

From the discussion here it sounds like maybe allegedly (according to one poster) more local kids got in to the magnet this year than in current years. But that doesn’t relate to the current composition.


May not be more local kids getting in. I do notice that students from Whitman and Churchill are less willing to go to Blair now and they get fantastic college admission offers from their home schools. I heard several friends’ kids declined Blair and RM IB offers. Wootton kids are somehow still very interested in Blair.


That's odd I looked at the college outcomes posted by MoCo360 and see that Blair and RMIB do so much better than Whitman and Churchill.


We’re talking about about 5-10students from each high school who decided to not go to Blair or RM IB. You can’t compare the whole non magnet school with magnet school for IVY admissions. But both Whitman and Churchill had top IVY admissions. But even for UMD admissions, Whitman and Churchill have better admission rates than Blair and RM according to the table in MoCo 360. Whitman had 386 applied to UMD and 243 admitted, Blair had 367 applied and 157 admitted, RM had 335 applied and 176 admitted, Churchill had 259 applied and 143 admitted.


Can you link the data that you're talking about? Is "admitted" the same definition as "accepted" or are the Blair kids just choosing to go somewhere other than UMD?
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Anonymous wrote:NP, it’s well known that white, upper middle class, striver Takoma Park families send their kids to CAP. Very few go to the magnet, either because they are more interested in lefty social activist type subjects or because they don’t get in. It’s much more difficult to get in to the magnet than CAP.

The number of local Takoma Park kids in CAP is many times the number of local kids in the magnet. And as has been mentioned, that is reflected in the kids taking the bus after 9th period.

From the discussion here it sounds like maybe allegedly (according to one poster) more local kids got in to the magnet this year than in current years. But that doesn’t relate to the current composition.


May not be more local kids getting in. I do notice that students from Whitman and Churchill are less willing to go to Blair now and they get fantastic college admission offers from their home schools. I heard several friends’ kids declined Blair and RM IB offers. Wootton kids are somehow still very interested in Blair.


That's odd I looked at the college outcomes posted by MoCo360 and see that Blair and RMIB do so much better than Whitman and Churchill.


We’re talking about about 5-10students from each high school who decided to not go to Blair or RM IB. You can’t compare the whole non magnet school with magnet school for IVY admissions. But both Whitman and Churchill had top IVY admissions. But even for UMD admissions, Whitman and Churchill have better admission rates than Blair and RM according to the table in MoCo 360. Whitman had 386 applied to UMD and 243 admitted, Blair had 367 applied and 157 admitted, RM had 335 applied and 176 admitted, Churchill had 259 applied and 143 admitted.


Can you link the data that you're talking about? Is "admitted" the same definition as "accepted" or are the Blair kids just choosing to go somewhere other than UMD?


Look at the table. Admitted means number of offers, accepted is a different story.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/
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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.


Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.


She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year


But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.



Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/


About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.


40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.



Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.


The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.


There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...


It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.


That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.


Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.


Very clear.
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