blair magnet quesiton

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Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


Blair Magnet students don't need or want college credit. They are the students that college was built for -- students who want to spend time to learn as much as possible to reach their extremely high potential.


Huh? They can continue to study at graduate programs and later, through postdocs and professorships and research labs. If they are such geniuses they will not be reaching their full potential in college.


"College" is not the same for everyone. Universities have grad schools and research programs attached with plenty of opportunity for students to engage in advanced work during undergrad. Rushing through college is a waste of a unique opportunity.


not if you pay for college while grad school is free. in any case, no undergrad research compared to phd research. it's a whole different ballgame.
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Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?

I assume Blair the same but at poolesville Linear Algebra and discrete math classes take the final at UMD so can definitely be used for credit there.
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Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


To answer your actual question accurately, yes, they can. They are reviewed on a case by case basis by each college but they certainly can and do get college credit at many colleges.
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Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


No
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Incorrect. Ask Ostrander and he’ll put you straight.
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Anonymous wrote:There are no “average” kids in the program, but I’d consider my kid to be average among those in the program. He thinks he falls somewhere close to the mid point in relation to classmates (toward the top of the lower half). Didn’t take functions.

He’s introverted and there isn’t a lot of time or energy for socializing or hobbies outside of class with a long day and then homework. Homework and classes are very challenging but time consuming. Other kids manage sports or are very involved in several clubs (my kid stays after school for a club once or twice a week and doesn’t do a sport and gave up his instrument).

He has all As so far (sophomore year). Some of his friends have definitely had Bs (mostly in non magnet classes) but it seems all As is very common. The superstar kids are winning national and international competitions so all As isn’t a huge achievement.

Overall it’s a great place to be if your kid can cope with the work. Success requires a lot of motivation and organization as much as or more than academic brilliance.


That’s the issue concerning me. I know my kids will probably be getting mostly As, but I don’t think they will win any national and international competitions. Will they still be good fit for this school without feeling inferior to others? They won’t be superstars but rather average magnet students.


On another scale of comparison, just getting into the program has superstar quality. Congratulations to your student. I encourage them to try it. The staff work very hard to support students who turn out to struggle. And nobody says students have to stay in it, if it turns out that leaving the program is in the best interests of the student.


Earlier someone posted that Wootton sent 40 kids to Blair, Whitman sent 8, "very few" TKPK, but 25 seats were CAP local slots. Aren't there only 100 Magnet slots?

So about half the magnet came from only two W schools, and a quarter were local gimme's?

Wow! That's eye-opening! Seems the "Blair envy" is the only myth here?


There are no local gimmes. Stop with your snotty, lunatic westside arrogance.


If half the kids are from two only schools, how is that "arrogance"? I didn't pick them. MCPS picked them.

You also seem to be very angry about that statistic? Why?

I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason?

Please explain why my tax dollars fund a Magnet program in an area where half the kids have to be bussed across the county to reach it?

How is this not corruption?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are no “average” kids in the program, but I’d consider my kid to be average among those in the program. He thinks he falls somewhere close to the mid point in relation to classmates (toward the top of the lower half). Didn’t take functions.

He’s introverted and there isn’t a lot of time or energy for socializing or hobbies outside of class with a long day and then homework. Homework and classes are very challenging but time consuming. Other kids manage sports or are very involved in several clubs (my kid stays after school for a club once or twice a week and doesn’t do a sport and gave up his instrument).

He has all As so far (sophomore year). Some of his friends have definitely had Bs (mostly in non magnet classes) but it seems all As is very common. The superstar kids are winning national and international competitions so all As isn’t a huge achievement.

Overall it’s a great place to be if your kid can cope with the work. Success requires a lot of motivation and organization as much as or more than academic brilliance.


That’s the issue concerning me. I know my kids will probably be getting mostly As, but I don’t think they will win any national and international competitions. Will they still be good fit for this school without feeling inferior to others? They won’t be superstars but rather average magnet students.


On another scale of comparison, just getting into the program has superstar quality. Congratulations to your student. I encourage them to try it. The staff work very hard to support students who turn out to struggle. And nobody says students have to stay in it, if it turns out that leaving the program is in the best interests of the student.


Earlier someone posted that Wootton sent 40 kids to Blair, Whitman sent 8, "very few" TKPK, but 25 seats were CAP local slots. Aren't there only 100 Magnet slots?

So about half the magnet came from only two W schools, and a quarter were local gimme's?

Wow! That's eye-opening! Seems the "Blair envy" is the only myth here?


There are no local gimmes. Stop with your snotty, lunatic westside arrogance.


If half the kids are from two only schools, how is that "arrogance"? I didn't pick them. MCPS picked them.

You also seem to be very angry about that statistic? Why?

I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason?

Please explain why my tax dollars fund a Magnet program in an area where half the kids have to be bussed across the county to reach it?

How is this not corruption?


Uh, it's a magnet school. Do you know what that word means?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


Blair Magnet students don't need or want college credit. They are the students that college was built for -- students who want to spend time to learn as much as possible to reach their extremely high potential.


Huh? They can continue to study at graduate programs and later, through postdocs and professorships and research labs. If they are such geniuses they will not be reaching their full potential in college.


"College" is not the same for everyone. Universities have grad schools and research programs attached with plenty of opportunity for students to engage in advanced work during undergrad. Rushing through college is a waste of a unique opportunity.


not if you pay for college while grad school is free. in any case, no undergrad research compared to phd research. it's a whole different ballgame.


If you complete a high level undergrad then you are more prepared for much more substantial PhD research and a stronger career.

Eking out minimum college graduation requirements isn't how you prepare for high achievement in grad school. You'd be competing for spots against students who did your PhD qualifying exam preparation while they were still in college.
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Anonymous wrote:There are no “average” kids in the program, but I’d consider my kid to be average among those in the program. He thinks he falls somewhere close to the mid point in relation to classmates (toward the top of the lower half). Didn’t take functions.

He’s introverted and there isn’t a lot of time or energy for socializing or hobbies outside of class with a long day and then homework. Homework and classes are very challenging but time consuming. Other kids manage sports or are very involved in several clubs (my kid stays after school for a club once or twice a week and doesn’t do a sport and gave up his instrument).

He has all As so far (sophomore year). Some of his friends have definitely had Bs (mostly in non magnet classes) but it seems all As is very common. The superstar kids are winning national and international competitions so all As isn’t a huge achievement.

Overall it’s a great place to be if your kid can cope with the work. Success requires a lot of motivation and organization as much as or more than academic brilliance.


That’s the issue concerning me. I know my kids will probably be getting mostly As, but I don’t think they will win any national and international competitions. Will they still be good fit for this school without feeling inferior to others? They won’t be superstars but rather average magnet students.


On another scale of comparison, just getting into the program has superstar quality. Congratulations to your student. I encourage them to try it. The staff work very hard to support students who turn out to struggle. And nobody says students have to stay in it, if it turns out that leaving the program is in the best interests of the student.


Earlier someone posted that Wootton sent 40 kids to Blair, Whitman sent 8, "very few" TKPK, but 25 seats were CAP local slots. Aren't there only 100 Magnet slots?

So about half the magnet came from only two W schools, and a quarter were local gimme's?

Wow! That's eye-opening! Seems the "Blair envy" is the only myth here?


There are no local gimmes. Stop with your snotty, lunatic westside arrogance.


If half the kids are from two only schools, how is that "arrogance"? I didn't pick them. MCPS picked them.

You also seem to be very angry about that statistic? Why?

I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason?

Please explain why my tax dollars fund a Magnet program in an area where half the kids have to be bussed across the county to reach it?

How is this not corruption?


Uh, it's a magnet school. Do you know what that word means?


Yes, I do. And why students are pulled to the school is the question.

Are you saying the intent is not to serve academics, but the only intent is to bring a particular demographic group into a different school to make it 'look good'?

Is that how TJ became the top school in America? I don't think so. And I think that academics should be more important than skin color or how much money you have. When MCPS bases it's decisions on parents or race instead of students, it's saying the students themselves just don't matter. It's all about the adult games people are playing with the school system.

I think people like that need to be fired or voted out of school decisions. Period.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are no “average” kids in the program, but I’d consider my kid to be average among those in the program. He thinks he falls somewhere close to the mid point in relation to classmates (toward the top of the lower half). Didn’t take functions.

He’s introverted and there isn’t a lot of time or energy for socializing or hobbies outside of class with a long day and then homework. Homework and classes are very challenging but time consuming. Other kids manage sports or are very involved in several clubs (my kid stays after school for a club once or twice a week and doesn’t do a sport and gave up his instrument).

He has all As so far (sophomore year). Some of his friends have definitely had Bs (mostly in non magnet classes) but it seems all As is very common. The superstar kids are winning national and international competitions so all As isn’t a huge achievement.

Overall it’s a great place to be if your kid can cope with the work. Success requires a lot of motivation and organization as much as or more than academic brilliance.


That’s the issue concerning me. I know my kids will probably be getting mostly As, but I don’t think they will win any national and international competitions. Will they still be good fit for this school without feeling inferior to others? They won’t be superstars but rather average magnet students.


On another scale of comparison, just getting into the program has superstar quality. Congratulations to your student. I encourage them to try it. The staff work very hard to support students who turn out to struggle. And nobody says students have to stay in it, if it turns out that leaving the program is in the best interests of the student.


Earlier someone posted that Wootton sent 40 kids to Blair, Whitman sent 8, "very few" TKPK, but 25 seats were CAP local slots. Aren't there only 100 Magnet slots?

So about half the magnet came from only two W schools, and a quarter were local gimme's?

Wow! That's eye-opening! Seems the "Blair envy" is the only myth here?


There are no local gimmes. Stop with your snotty, lunatic westside arrogance.


If half the kids are from two only schools, how is that "arrogance"? I didn't pick them. MCPS picked them.

You also seem to be very angry about that statistic? Why?

I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason?

Please explain why my tax dollars fund a Magnet program in an area where half the kids have to be bussed across the county to reach it?

How is this not corruption?


Those stats are incorrect anyway. Half do not come from those two schools, though about a third typically attended TPMS.
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Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


No but students take AP exams for the related subject areas to get credit (even though they are not offical AP classes)


Wrong, many of those courses can get you out of college classes; for example, if you take linear algebra at Blair, you can test out of it at UMD.
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“I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason”

Blair is very convenient and right off the Beltway. It is a lot more convenient than Poolesvillle. I assume that you meant people have trouble accessing geographically, not intellectually.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can Blair magnet courses be used for college credit?


No but students take AP exams for the related subject areas to get credit (even though they are not offical AP classes)


Wrong, many of those courses can get you out of college classes; for example, if you take linear algebra at Blair, you can test out of it at UMD.

Get credit, not just test out
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“I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason”

Blair is very convenient and right off the Beltway. It is a lot more convenient than Poolesvillle. I assume that you meant people have trouble accessing geographically, not intellectually.


Blair only serves downcounty. Upcounty STEM and humanities magnet is poolesville which is out of the way but under enrolled so makes sense
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Anonymous wrote:There are no “average” kids in the program, but I’d consider my kid to be average among those in the program. He thinks he falls somewhere close to the mid point in relation to classmates (toward the top of the lower half). Didn’t take functions.

He’s introverted and there isn’t a lot of time or energy for socializing or hobbies outside of class with a long day and then homework. Homework and classes are very challenging but time consuming. Other kids manage sports or are very involved in several clubs (my kid stays after school for a club once or twice a week and doesn’t do a sport and gave up his instrument).

He has all As so far (sophomore year). Some of his friends have definitely had Bs (mostly in non magnet classes) but it seems all As is very common. The superstar kids are winning national and international competitions so all As isn’t a huge achievement.

Overall it’s a great place to be if your kid can cope with the work. Success requires a lot of motivation and organization as much as or more than academic brilliance.


That’s the issue concerning me. I know my kids will probably be getting mostly As, but I don’t think they will win any national and international competitions. Will they still be good fit for this school without feeling inferior to others? They won’t be superstars but rather average magnet students.


On another scale of comparison, just getting into the program has superstar quality. Congratulations to your student. I encourage them to try it. The staff work very hard to support students who turn out to struggle. And nobody says students have to stay in it, if it turns out that leaving the program is in the best interests of the student.


Earlier someone posted that Wootton sent 40 kids to Blair, Whitman sent 8, "very few" TKPK, but 25 seats were CAP local slots. Aren't there only 100 Magnet slots?

So about half the magnet came from only two W schools, and a quarter were local gimme's?

Wow! That's eye-opening! Seems the "Blair envy" is the only myth here?


There are no local gimmes. Stop with your snotty, lunatic westside arrogance.


If half the kids are from two only schools, how is that "arrogance"? I didn't pick them. MCPS picked them.

You also seem to be very angry about that statistic? Why?

I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason?

Please explain why my tax dollars fund a Magnet program in an area where half the kids have to be bussed across the county to reach it?

How is this not corruption?


There should be more magnet programs and parents should have to drive them given its a choice. However, they generally put them at lower preforming schools to boost up test scores. Its strategic.
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“I'm just saying that it's very strange that MCPS placed a magnet in a corner of the County where the majority of communities would have trouble accessing it? Why is that? Is there some special reason”

Blair is very convenient and right off the Beltway. It is a lot more convenient than Poolesvillle. I assume that you meant people have trouble accessing geographically, not intellectually.



There are many many threads about the history of why the program was started at Blair. You are getting bent out of shape for nothing. Take a few minutes and Google the history.
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