blair magnet quesiton

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Dr. A. M. stop posting here already. Don't you have better things to do? Geez Lewis.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Wow! Learn to read. The (sub) thread was about LOCAL Takoma park kids not those who went to the magnet from elsewhere.

No, you need to learn how to read. The (sub) thread was not about local Takoma Park kids. It was about the myth that Potomac and Bethesda send more kids to Blair, which is false.
Read the chain of posts above.
Context.

Correct, the poster who misunderstood the context either has comprehension issues or is deliberately obtuse.

I don’t think that poster is the one with comprehension issues. PP was responding to a poster who was talking about local Takoma park kids - someone who was questioning this myth you reference. It’s all there in the thread and pretty easy to follow.

That said that’s enough on this subject.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

Earlier poster claimed 8 people from Whitman went to magnets. Wootton sent over 40.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

Earlier poster claimed 8 people from Whitman went to magnets. Wootton sent over 40.

Not sure why Wootton kids are so interested in Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

Interesting perspective. It’s actually the other way round.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

DP. Why so aggressive to this person? They are just relaying their experience and maybe repeating it because people keep denying it. (I haven't followed that closely). I'm also in TP and kid graduated from SMCS a few years ago. Several local TP kids in the program that we knew.

Why are people throwing down over this? So weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

That's what I've observed as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

when DC was at Blair there were maybe 10 kids from Wootton in their class

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

DP. Why so aggressive to this person? They are just relaying their experience and maybe repeating it because people keep denying it. (I haven't followed that closely). I'm also in TP and kid graduated from SMCS a few years ago. Several local TP kids in the program that we knew.

Why are people throwing down over this? So weird.

Was thinking the same thing. They get upset and are dismissive of anyone whose experiences contradict their worldview.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

That's what I've observed as well.

Current 9th grade has very few kids from Takoma Park (the area) in the magnet. Most kids are from elsewhere, large contingent from Rockville and Gaithersburg, but also parts of Silver Spring. Large contingent from TPMS, but not local to Takoma Park. Don’t know about 20 years ago, or even last year but that’s how it is this year.

Lots and lots of Takoma Park 9th graders in CAP though.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

DP. Why so aggressive to this person? They are just relaying their experience and maybe repeating it because people keep denying it. (I haven't followed that closely). I'm also in TP and kid graduated from SMCS a few years ago. Several local TP kids in the program that we knew.

Why are people throwing down over this? So weird.

Was thinking the same thing. They get upset and are dismissive of anyone whose experiences contradict their worldview.

PP was unnecessarily hostile but made a good point. How many times do we have to hear about these 8 kids or that most of their neighbors were in the program? I don’t believe it anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

That's what I've observed as well.

Current 9th grade has very few kids from Takoma Park (the area) in the magnet. Most kids are from elsewhere, large contingent from Rockville and Gaithersburg, but also parts of Silver Spring. Large contingent from TPMS, but not local to Takoma Park. Don’t know about 20 years ago, or even last year but that’s how it is this year.

Lots and lots of Takoma Park 9th graders in CAP though.

Perhaps, I'm mistaken but the PP who mentioned 8 was talking about rising 9th graders.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird subthread, but to detangle a bit:

1) Someone up thread said the SMCS program is mostly kids from Potomac and Bethesda, which is patently false, per both anecdotal reports and the actual magnet directory, which shows Blair as the home school for the largest number of SMCS kids.

2) When that was noted, the PP moved the goalposts from "most kids in SMCS are from Potomac" to "Most kids winning national-level science and math competitions are from Potomac." A quiz tour of the SMCS "awards" page showed a bunch of kids from Rockville, but perhaps even more relevant, a lot of kids whose parents are scientists in the same field the kid won an award in.

3) On CAP vs. SMCS, there probably are more TkPk kids in CAP than in SCMS, but that's not necessarily a function of either interest or aptitude. It's a function of SMCS pulling from the entire down county while CAP is only open to DCC kids, and kids who went to MS in the DCC. The universe of SMCS kids is larger, so the percentage pulled from Takoma Park in particular will be lower.

4) At any rate, hopefully OP has seen her question answered and moved on.

It's interesting that there were as many TKPK kids going to SMCS as there were kids from the entire Wootton pyramid, which was the basis for poster's claim about SMCS being mainly W students. I remember reading through the magnet directory and saw it was mostly DCC kids which was contrary to popular belief.

DCC kids, yes, even kids with Blair as a home school, maybe, but no to kids from Takoma Park being over represented. Absolutely not.

DC is a TKPK kid who accepted SMCS earlier this month. They have 7-8 friends from the neighborhood and even attended TPES/PBES with who were accepted. I think 1 or 2 may go to a different program but that's about as many as the earlier poster claimed came from Wootton.

You need to stop posting the same stuff over and over again. Someone earlier called you unhinged and I think they are right. Either an unhinged parent who has had too much wine already or is it possible you're the 8th grader?

DP. Why so aggressive to this person? They are just relaying their experience and maybe repeating it because people keep denying it. (I haven't followed that closely). I'm also in TP and kid graduated from SMCS a few years ago. Several local TP kids in the program that we knew.

Why are people throwing down over this? So weird.

Was thinking the same thing. They get upset and are dismissive of anyone whose experiences contradict their worldview.

PP was unnecessarily hostile but made a good point. How many times do we have to hear about these 8 kids or that most of their neighbors were in the program? I don’t believe it anyway.

When you stop sockpuppeting?

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Anonymous wrote:I know of at least 2 magnet kids with high gpa’s/test scores, at least one is a National Merit Semi, and rejected from UMD this year. Anyone who thinks UMD is a slam dunk (especially for STEM) is delusional.

Then honestly, what do they need to do? My kid (8th grade) is going to the magnet next year. I don't want her to have a nervous breakdown because it's that difficult to even get into UMD.

I literally don't get it. They are already taking a very difficult course load. I have heard don't even bother releasing your Sat scores until it's > 1500. Everyone gets straight A's, or else. We don't have the money for private.

Honestly this whole thread is just making me depressed. My kid is smart but she's not going to win any national awards.

She need to not go to UMD. They only admit a few kids from Blair, so it’s super tough because you are competing against other magnet kids. If she applies to any other school, she will do fine.

Thi is completely wrong. UMD admits over 100 kids from Blair every year

But there are 750 students and 200 from
magnet. The non-magnet class also gets UMD offers. I assume majority of magnet students would apply for UMD, even as a safety school. That would mean many magnet students get rejected.

Last year UMD CP accepted 157 of 367 Blair applicants, and 71 enrolled.

Many magnet kids don't bother applying to UMD as a safety, because they have ED1, or rich parents (as most magnet parents are rich) happy to pay for our of state schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

About 40% of magnet grads have gone to UMD in recent years because their families are working class/MD and do not have the money to send them to more expensive private colleges. Most magnet parents aren't rich. What a ridiculous thing to say.

40% not rich means most are rich. Potomac and Bethesda dominate magnet attendance.

Not DC's experience. Most of the kids are from DCC with a noticeable group from Potomac, many fewer from Bethesda. I think once they got rid of teacher recs and made the application process easier they got a more diverse group of applicants in many dimensions including geography.

The manget directory suggests this notion that the magnet is mostly W kids is a myth. The largest feeder is actually Blair itself. That was also the case at TPMS.

It is a myth created by the W parents. A few years ago, MCPS distributed a report showing how many students each HS lost/sent to the magnets. The W didn't lose that many to the magnets, with Wootton having lost the most and Whitman the least. If I remember correctly, Whitman only lost 8 students to the magnets.

There is only 100 slots. 8 from a single school is a lot.

I see reading comprehension is not your forte. I said magnets, with a "s". It included all the magnets i.e SMCS, RMIB, CAP etc...

It's funny DC is an in-boundary 8th grader at TPMS, and there are around 8 neighborhood kids going to SMCS next year.

That’s a big change then. Typically the TKPK kids go to CAP. Very few in the magnet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you even live in the county?
TPMS (not TKPK) always sends the most kids to SMCS, while Eastern sends most to CAP.

Yes, I know exactly what I’m talking about and apparently you don’t. I didn’t say TPMS (the school) I said TKPK (the city). That was very clear from the language I used and also even more so if you bothered to follow the specific thread I was responding to (re in bound TPMS kids). It’s very clear that TKPK families send their kids to CAP and not SMCS in large numbers. If you actually lived there you’d know that and wouldn’t be lecturing me.

Very clear.

It's clear what they're saying. May have even been true 20 years ago just not recently.

That's what I've observed as well.

Current 9th grade has very few kids from Takoma Park (the area) in the magnet. Most kids are from elsewhere, large contingent from Rockville and Gaithersburg, but also parts of Silver Spring. Large contingent from TPMS, but not local to Takoma Park. Don’t know about 20 years ago, or even last year but that’s how it is this year.

Lots and lots of Takoma Park 9th graders in CAP though.

Of my neighbors in TP, I know several families with kids in SMCS but only one in CAP.