UVA EA out Friday!

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My kid works his behind off for his 4.0. Full IB with AP Calc BC. The amount of work and studying is way behind what would havenpassed for studying in my day.

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Anonymous wrote:When people are listing GPA's, is that only the GPA through 11th grade, or is it the projected GPA accounting for senior year?

Probably through 11th since that’s what you use for the application.

If you are referring to the SCHEV statistics, that is what the students and school report to the state after enrollement, so senior year.

I'm the OP and I was asking about both, really. My junior kid is trending upwards with her Gpa. It was 3.9 after Soph year, looking like it will be 4.05 after 11th, and potentially up to close to a 4.2 after 12th. So when i see 4.2 is 25th percentile I think sure she might as well apply as a reach, because she could very well end up with a 4.2. But UVA will only have the 4.05 to go on.

We have the SCHEV which gives up final gpa, but is there any published stat that shows the end of 11th grade gpa of accepted students?

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Anonymous wrote:How do all these kids have a 4.0 UW? I am actually shocked. Not one A- or B+ in 4 years? Are these kids all super geniuses?

My kid has never gotten a B in 12 years of school. He's just really good at "school". He just always understood what was required and how to play "the game". It's a skill, like any other. I was very similar. That being said, being good at school doesn't necessarily translate into career success. Different set of skills.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all these kids have a 4.0 UW? I am actually shocked. Not one A- or B+ in 4 years? Are these kids all super geniuses?

My kid has never gotten a B in 12 years of school. He's just really good at "school". He just always understood what was required and how to play "the game". It's a skill, like any other. I was very similar. That being said, being good at school doesn't necessarily translate into career success. Different set of skills.

I hear you, PP. I know there are kids like this, but it is pretty rare. Why are there so many on here? Seems disproportionate. Are mid-terms and finals cumulative and 20% of grade at your DS’ school? Just curious.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Yeah I wonder how there have been so many 4.0s at public schools. It’s difficult to fathom. /s

At my DC’s school, a few minor errors on the midterm or finals would lead to a lower score (20% of grade) and it could drop your grade from an A to A- so easily. How can these kids, so many, not make ONE single error in 4 years? NONE in 4 years? Is this because schools allow re-testing? Or are midterms not 20% of grades at these schools?

I wonder this as well.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid works his behind off for his 4.0. Full IB with AP Calc BC. The amount of work and studying is way behind what would havenpassed for studying in my day.

Did he get in??

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Anonymous wrote:When people are listing GPA's, is that only the GPA through 11th grade, or is it the projected GPA accounting for senior year?

Probably through 11th since that’s what you use for the application.

If you are referring to the SCHEV statistics, that is what the students and school report to the state after enrollement, so senior year.

I'm the OP and I was asking about both, really. My junior kid is trending upwards with her Gpa. It was 3.9 after Soph year, looking like it will be 4.05 after 11th, and potentially up to close to a 4.2 after 12th. So when i see 4.2 is 25th percentile I think sure she might as well apply as a reach, because she could very well end up with a 4.2. But UVA will only have the 4.05 to go on.

We have the SCHEV which gives up final gpa, but is there any published stat that shows the end of 11th grade gpa of accepted students?

My kid was accepted to UVA early action. She uploaded her first quarter grades to the portal. No guarantee that they considered them, but something for you to keep in mind if she doesn’t ED. If she applies RD or is waitlisted, she’ll have the mid-year grades to submit, too.
(Sorry no help on the published stats through end of 11th grade…I’ve never seen that).

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Anonymous wrote:How do all these kids have a 4.0 UW? I am actually shocked. Not one A- or B+ in 4 years? Are these kids all super geniuses?

My kid has never gotten a B in 12 years of school. He's just really good at "school". He just always understood what was required and how to play "the game". It's a skill, like any other. I was very similar. That being said, being good at school doesn't necessarily translate into career success. Different set of skills.

+1 This was me, too. Really good at school and even better at tests. Got me in to UVA no problem, but I don’t even make $60k.

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Son accepted
College of Arts & Sciences
In-state
4.23 wGPA (don’t know unweighted)
1520 superscore SAT
8 AP’s with all 5’s and one 4 so far
Lots of EC’s and leadership, volunteering etc
Strong essay
Double legacy
Northern VA private school

UVA cares about rigor rigor rigor. My son worked so so hard in HS and we are thrilled he got in! But it was a very intense high school experience, with so much stress and so many hours of homework and studying. My younger kids may not take the same route. My son also has good friends with somewhat similar stats who were waitlisted. It’s tough.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates. Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UNC, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.

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UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

It’s too bad that [b]UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need.

But they did. They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based. They situated research in new developments. They have acquired a lot of land over time.

As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students. UVA has land. That isn't it. However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their $92000 OOS cost of attendance.

False. You are thinking of USC, a private in So California

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

Non-Virginian: 91662 to 93022

Cute. No link found to what you quote. Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

Virginian Non-Virginian
Tuition 27,570 66,130
Fees 3,716 4,398
Subtotal 31,286 70,528

Additional Categories 21,134 21,134 to 22,494
Total 52,420 91,662 to 93,022

Right. and you just want to bash. That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA. So you cherry-picked. We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state. And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools. I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia. Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K. You didn't disclose that in your post. You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.

NP. PP wasn't cherry picking. Look at engineering. public policy, and others at $90K and above. But whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public school. Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0. Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school

No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.

That is true. UCLA and UCB are much cheaper for OOS. But they only have 10% seats for OOS kids. nearly impossible to get into.

Not much cheaper. Berkeley is almost $80k for standard OOS not including airfare from the east coast

That is true. Depending on when and where to fly, the airfare and hotel costs could go up to 10K if you visit California twice a year with family members. Well, there is no free lunch. No exception to sunny California.

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Anonymous wrote:Son accepted
College of Arts & Sciences
In-state
4.23 wGPA (don’t know unweighted)
1520 superscore SAT
8 AP’s with all 5’s and one 4 so far
Lots of EC’s and leadership, volunteering etc
Strong essay
Double legacy
Northern VA private school

UVA cares about rigor rigor rigor. My son worked so so hard in HS and we are thrilled he got in! But it was a very intense high school experience, with so much stress and so many hours of homework and studying. My younger kids may not take the same route. My son also has good friends with somewhat similar stats who were waitlisted. It’s tough.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Son accepted
College of Arts & Sciences
In-state
4.23 wGPA (don’t know unweighted)
1520 superscore SAT
8 AP’s with all 5’s and one 4 so far
Lots of EC’s and leadership, volunteering etc
Strong essay
Double legacy
Northern VA private school

UVA cares about rigor rigor rigor. My son worked so so hard in HS and we are thrilled he got in! But it was a very intense high school experience, with so much stress and so many hours of homework and studying. My younger kids may not take the same route. My son also has good friends with somewhat similar stats who were waitlisted. It’s tough.

+1

I know kids with higher stats who were not admitted.

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I know kids with higher stats who were not admitted.

So? None of the top 50 schools have ever claimed they only accept the highest stat kids. Why is that suddenly some faux benchmark that people try to stand on? These kids have all worked hard and are able to do the work. Unfortunately, there aren't enough seats to match demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Son accepted
College of Arts & Sciences
In-state
4.23 wGPA (don’t know unweighted)
1520 superscore SAT
8 AP’s with all 5’s and one 4 so far
Lots of EC’s and leadership, volunteering etc
Strong essay
Double legacy
Northern VA private school

UVA cares about rigor rigor rigor. My son worked so so hard in HS and we are thrilled he got in! But it was a very intense high school experience, with so much stress and so many hours of homework and studying. My younger kids may not take the same route. My son also has good friends with somewhat similar stats who were waitlisted. It’s tough.

Double legacy. Nice!

[Anonymous]

Declined

MCPS SMCS Magnet
4.0/4.84 GPA, 1570 SAT
Lots of CS ECs, awards

Glad DC got into UMD CS Hons.